f10 rod bearing failure

[serhat06]

i did mine 3. oil change afterbearing replacement clean oil.

[Fast400]

Originally Posted by serhat06

i did mine 3. oil change afterbearing replacement clean oil.

Awesome! At this point I think you can give the engine a clean bill of health.

[STONEY014]

Serhat06 did you buy OE bearings when you replaced yours or which brand did you use?

I am a salvage yard bought one for myself from an insurance sale fixed the RF 3/4 of the car now once I got it running its got a light lower knock with only 10,400 miles on the dang thing.

[flamelauncher14]

Had a similar problem in my 550i. Rod bearing at 44k miles - 3 months away from warranty expiring. Got a new N63 and turbos and should be good to go today. Whew!

[serhat06]

Originally Posted by STONEY014

Serhat06 did you buy OE bearings when you replaced yours or which brand did you use?

I am a salvage yard bought one for myself from an insurance sale fixed the RF 3/4 of the car now once I got it running its got a light lower knock with only 10,400 miles on the dang thing.

there was only oem available as i know,
nut be careful, upper shells are different then lower once. and they have directions. and you need to buy once you remove yours and find out what color code you have.

[MuffinFlavored]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Dude, do not drive that car. Take it to the dealership immediately and report that there are metal flakes in the oil. Then take it from there. 50,000 miles is 50,000 miles and they will replace the engine under factory warranty as long as its under. Trust me, I know what I am talking about.

Also, if you are interested in an extended warranty talk with you local dealership representative about it. I bought my extended warranty from BMW and it was expensive but it was the best deal out of anybody and I got the Platinum coverage.

What is *not* covered under the Platinum coverage? What is the worst thing you could be on the hook for?

[MuffinFlavored]

I'm not sure if this is what killed my engine, but:

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1404675

My engine died. :P

[finlandm5f10]

finlandm5f10 01:47 PM Today
I done oil change every 7000-10000km. in BMW service. I use redline racing 5w40 oil. And every time they put 9,5l oil. Im doing test every kind of way.
Electronic dipstic show full mark add 9,5l. If you put 9,8l dipstic show overfill. When dipstics drops 1 scale and we drain oils out engine oil is 8.0l. And when idrive shows add. 1l liter you had only 7,2l oil. if you add 1l dipstic show full mark. My car dipstic drops 1 scale about 7000km-8000km and every time i add 1l. (last interval is 8200km and dipstic show max. And BMW dealer drain out 8,3l)

in USA you drive low engine oli every time if use only 8,5l
And yes dipstic show max 8,5l but it shows max 9,5l overfilled 9,8l
Thats why many cars (M5 f10) in USA have this oil consuption problem and rod bearings problem. Oil pressure is to low since day 1 when first oil change is 1200ml and Europe 2000km.

Sorry my very bad english

[bmwdinan5]

I'm trying to understand what you are saying... sorry I know your english is not the best, but i'm very interested in your thought.

[finlandm5f10]

im sorry use google translater.

Meillä Euroopassa 2011 ja uudempien M5 ja M6 bmw moottoriöljy tilavuus 9,5l (www.bmwetka.com) Itse käytän Redline racing 5w40 öljyä. Siinä on bmw LL01 luokitus. Itse vaihdan öljyt valtakunnallisessa bmw huollossa. 7000-10000km välein. Autolla ajettu 72000km. Olen tutkinut tämän asian bmw mekaanikkojen kanssa. Kun moottoriöljyä laitetaan 9,5l näyttää öljytikku max merkissä.Kun öljyä laitetaan 9,8l näyttää idrive ylitäyttöä. Kun öljytikku putoaa yhden asteen max merkistä alaspäin olemme välittömästi ottaneet autosta öljyt pois. Silloin autossa on 8,0l öljyä. Kun idrive hälyyttää että lisää 1l niin moottorissa on silloin vain 7,2l öljyä. Eli jos silloin lisäät 1l niin öljytikku nousee max merkkiin ja moottorissa on vain 8,2l öljyä. Eli 1,3l vajaa mitä pitäisi oikeasti olla. Eli öljyä kuuluisi lisätä 1l heti kun öljytikku putoaa yhden asteen max merkistä.

Siksi teillä on öljynkulutus ja moottorin alakerta ongelia koska ajatte päivästä 1 lähtien liian vähäisellä öljymäärällä. Matalat öljynpaineet aiheuttavat moottoririkkoja.

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by finlandm5f10

im sorry use google translater.

Meillä Euroopassa 2011 ja uudempien M5 ja M6 bmw moottoriöljy tilavuus 9,5l (www.bmwetka.com) Itse käytän Redline racing 5w40 öljyä. Siinä on bmw LL01 luokitus. Itse vaihdan öljyt valtakunnallisessa bmw huollossa. 7000-10000km välein. Autolla ajettu 72000km. Olen tutkinut tämän asian bmw mekaanikkojen kanssa. Kun moottoriöljyä laitetaan 9,5l näyttää öljytikku max merkissä.Kun öljyä laitetaan 9,8l näyttää idrive ylitäyttöä. Kun öljytikku putoaa yhden asteen max merkistä alaspäin olemme välittömästi ottaneet autosta öljyt pois. Silloin autossa on 8,0l öljyä. Kun idrive hälyyttää että lisää 1l niin moottorissa on silloin vain 7,2l öljyä. Eli jos silloin lisäät 1l niin öljytikku nousee max merkkiin ja moottorissa on vain 8,2l öljyä. Eli 1,3l vajaa mitä pitäisi oikeasti olla. Eli öljyä kuuluisi lisätä 1l heti kun öljytikku putoaa yhden asteen max merkistä.

Siksi teillä on öljynkulutus ja moottorin alakerta ongelia koska ajatte päivästä 1 lähtien liian vähäisellä öljymäärällä. Matalat öljynpaineet aiheuttavat moottoririkkoja.

So you mean in the US the dealer doesn't add enough oil during service in the first place?

[serhat06]

Originally Posted by finlandm5f10

finlandm5f10 01:47 PM Today
I done oil change every 7000-10000km. in BMW service. I use redline racing 5w40 oil. And every time they put 9,5l oil. Im doing test every kind of way.
Electronic dipstic show full mark add 9,5l. If you put 9,8l dipstic show overfill. When dipstics drops 1 scale and we drain oils out engine oil is 8.0l. And when idrive shows add. 1l liter you had only 7,2l oil. if you add 1l dipstic show full mark. My car dipstic drops 1 scale about 7000km-8000km and every time i add 1l. (last interval is 8200km and dipstic show max. And BMW dealer drain out 8,3l)

in USA you drive low engine oli every time if use only 8,5l
And yes dipstic show max 8,5l but it shows max 9,5l overfilled 9,8l
Thats why many cars (M5 f10) in USA have this oil consuption problem and rod bearings problem. Oil pressure is to low since day 1 when first oil change is 1200ml and Europe 2000km.

Sorry my very bad english

i usually put 8.5 and drive it for 40 mins then measure add 1 quarter more.
and also it makes big difference if you drain oil cooler or not.

[finlandm5f10]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

So you mean in the US the dealer doesn't add enough oil during service in the first place?

Yes. If they put 8,5l that is not enought. But dipstick shows full mark.

[LI-M5]

Originally Posted by finlandm5f10

im sorry use google translater.

Meillä Euroopassa 2011 ja uudempien M5 ja M6 bmw moottoriöljy tilavuus 9,5l (www.bmwetka.com) Itse käytän Redline racing 5w40 öljyä. Siinä on bmw LL01 luokitus. Itse vaihdan öljyt valtakunnallisessa bmw huollossa. 7000-10000km välein. Autolla ajettu 72000km. Olen tutkinut tämän asian bmw mekaanikkojen kanssa. Kun moottoriöljyä laitetaan 9,5l näyttää öljytikku max merkissä.Kun öljyä laitetaan 9,8l näyttää idrive ylitäyttöä. Kun öljytikku putoaa yhden asteen max merkistä alaspäin olemme välittömästi ottaneet autosta öljyt pois. Silloin autossa on 8,0l öljyä. Kun idrive hälyyttää että lisää 1l niin moottorissa on silloin vain 7,2l öljyä. Eli jos silloin lisäät 1l niin öljytikku nousee max merkkiin ja moottorissa on vain 8,2l öljyä. Eli 1,3l vajaa mitä pitäisi oikeasti olla. Eli öljyä kuuluisi lisätä 1l heti kun öljytikku putoaa yhden asteen max merkistä.

Siksi teillä on öljynkulutus ja moottorin alakerta ongelia koska ajatte päivästä 1 lähtien liian vähäisellä öljymäärällä. Matalat öljynpaineet aiheuttavat moottoririkkoja.

Yea im gonna say that's not much better !!!

so if i understand correctly the car will tell you its full when it really should have another quart to be full?

[finlandm5f10]

Originally Posted by Dark_M4

70.000km 2012 EU spec engine oil motul 300v 5w40 every 5000km. ordered use engine with 40.000km yesterday I will change all bearings on the new engine anyway

Ou shit and fuck. 😞 hmm every 5000km motul 5w40 and now 70000km and
Look like that. I wont belive you. This is something else. Must be!!!

[finlandm5f10]

How did you know that engine is that shape?
Or what happend? Different engine noise or what?

[finlandm5f10]

Originally Posted by Dark_M4

I was doing 200kmh on the highway and as I was entering the City I dropped the speed to 150kmh and suddenly boom engine blew apart alot of smoke from the tailpipes infact so much smoke that nobody could see anythin ahead on the 5 lane road car where stopping by and 1 car hit me slightly on the rear bumper because he could not see ahead in that much smoke

�� Ok. Why this is happend? There most be some reason?? I know in here finland f10 m5 my frends father is first owner and car is
09/2011 and 264000km (164077miles) odometer. Turbos was change about 200000km. But engine is never opeden. Everything but turbos is day 1. mafs are changed and some electic components.

[finlandm5f10]

Originally Posted by Dark_M4

Can you please ask him which oil he uses what intervals did he already changef bearings? does he uses pedal alot or he is commuting most of the time?
idk why it happened to me no noises no anything

Hi. This engine is original condition except turbos and some electric items mafs and some others. I think the car driven pretty normal in roads. But yes car is been track days many times. And last 3years car is tuned. Same tune like mine (690hp and 910nm crank). Now in Finland many Bmw workshop uses Neste oil 5w40 in M bmw. But now i know he uses redline 5w40 in summer and 5w30 in winter.
And transmission oil is defenetly original 264000km. Mine was change in 55000km now my car is driven 81000km

[finlandm5f10]

Originally Posted by Dark_M4

I wanted to use redline oil too but there is not that option in my Country So I used motul 300v power with ester base oils like redline but many prefer Redline over 300v. Transmission oil is life time and neednot have to be changed unless u change oil filter and top up with fresh oil. I have seen bmw transmissions with 200k KM on the speedo and oil was like from the bottle new transparent amber oil starts to go black in gearbox if clutchpacks are damaged/weared and changing oil will not help but changing filter and topping up with new oil wont hurt. I have not taken off cylnder heads yet from my engine its sitting in mu garage with oilpan up on the tyre I will take off cyl heads and see if there will be any clue why this happened and post new pics but as of for now it looks like it had worn rod bearings and thats what knocked the motor

Motul 300v power. Is this LL01? I think is not aprowed LL01 like both redline oil 5w40 and 5w30. And yes my transmission is change both filters and New oil pan and 8,6l new dct oil. Are you read fault codes after this happend?

[finlandm5f10]

Originally Posted by Dark_M4

I dont know about redline we dont have it on the market in my country , but today i was at the motuls dealers and the I asked that question about car manufacturers approvals on 300v and he replied to me that 300v motul says it is 2 time superior quality oil an exceeds all the manufacturers standards.
Are you or anybody familiar with Oil groups and hydrocracked oils PAO bases oils or Ester oils
?

No I have not read faults

Motul 300v is not LL01
But redline 5w30 and 5w40 is. Redline.com
But yes you cant compare redline and castrol same day. Redline is much better.

[pikemaster21]

Sept 2016 F10 M5, 40k On The Clock. Owned For 3 Weeks. Big End Bearing Failure, Thankfully I Had The Sense To Buy From An Approved Bmw Dealer, New Engine And Turbos Supplied By Bmw At An Unknown Cost But I Will Find Out When I Collect The Car Again.
They Gave Me A Brand New 5 Series As A Courtesy Car. Only 50 Mile On The Clock After It Was Delivered.
Should I Be Looking A Better Warranty From Them For The Engine Other Than The 12 Months Supplied With The Car At Purchase??

[mister2d]

Originally Posted by pikemaster21

Sept 2016 F10 M5, 40k On The Clock. Owned For 3 Weeks. Big End Bearing Failure, Thankfully I Had The Sense To Buy From An Approved Bmw Dealer, New Engine And Turbos Supplied By Bmw At An Unknown Cost But I Will Find Out When I Collect The Car Again.
They Gave Me A Brand New 5 Series As A Courtesy Car. Only 50 Mile On The Clock After It Was Delivered.
Should I Be Looking A Better Warranty From Them For The Engine Other Than The 12 Months Supplied With The Car At Purchase??

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