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      12-30-2013, 09:05 PM   #1
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Are US Dealers using 0W-30 or 5W30 on LCI M5s?

I read that UK dealers have switched to 0W-30 for the M5. They were using 5W-30 previously.

Does anyone know if the US dealers have done the same or are we still getting the unwanted 5W-30 oil like we did on the 2013 cars?

I'm doing break-in service later this week, so I need to know whether to buy 9 bottles of 0W-30.
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One other thing. I'm pretty sure my car is currently running 0w-30 from factory based on short engine warm up times.
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Is a quicker warm-up be beneficial? I'll admit it's bit of a pain to wait several miles for the engine to come up to temperature, especially when a Corvette pulls up next to you at a light and you have to go easy. However it seems to me that the oil must be very effective if the engine takes a while to warm up. Is this analysis too simplistic? Mine is 5-30.
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Is a quicker warm-up be beneficial? I'll admit it's bit of a pain to wait several miles for the engine to come up to temperature, especially when a Corvette pulls up next to you at a light and you have to go easy. However it seems to me that the oil must be very effective if the engine takes a while to warm up. Is this analysis too simplistic? Mine is 5-30.
No actually quicker warm up is beneficial because damage is most likely to occurs when engine is cold. and more importantly 0W-30 also provides better protection when engine is still cold relative to 5W-30. Most racing teams operating M3 and M6 cars use 0w-30.

Further the GC0W-30 provides better protection at all temperatures because it is has better lubricants than BMW5W-30
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BMW of Dallas used 5W-30 for my LCI breakin service about 2 months ago. Takes forever to warm up now but it gets hotter than sin down here more often than it's cold! I may request 0w-30 for my mid cycle 5k oil change coming up in a month or so.
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BMW of Dallas used 5W-30 for my LCI breakin service about 2 months ago. Takes forever to warm up now but it gets hotter than sin down here more often than it's cold! I may request 0w-30 for my mid cycle 5k oil change coming up in a month or so.
I live in South Florida and I found 0w-30 to be better in summer too. You will notice engine sounds noticeably smoother.
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5w30 is what my dealer uses and what I think BMW sets as the minimum standard for the M5. I deliver a case of 0w30 for them to use instead. I think it's a better option overall.
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5W-30 2 weeks ago during my break-in service.
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Shoot, for the reasons some mention above 1. (hot weather) AND 2. It is listed as an acceptable oil viscosity by BMW 3. Is the brand I happily and successfully run in my four other cars, boat, and Harley 4. I plan on doing interim changes-not necessitated by the BMW service schedule...it is Mobil 1 0W-40 European Formula for all but the first 5-600 miles of my M5's life...FWIW...
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Castrol high performance edge 5w30 is not bad at all. and M3 use 10w-60 by the way
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are you sure about UK dealers using 0w-30?
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are you sure about UK dealers using 0w-30?
My dealer said they use Castrol Edge 0w-30 on f10 M5s, TWS 10w-60 on older M5s & M3s.
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yup non-turbo charged engines need richer oil.

will check with my dealer in a couple of days.
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are you sure about UK dealers using 0w-30?
Yes they are mine has it in from 1200 miles and the dealer was told to use it now instead of 5-30
NO Oil used in 4300 miles.
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During my break-in service almost 2 wks ago.
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One other thing. I'm pretty sure my car is currently running 0w-30 from factory based on short engine warm up times.
I find the 0w-30 quite slow to warm up; can be up to 1/2 hour of sedate driving for me. Could be due to lower average ambient temps in UK? I hate to think how slow it would be with 5w-30!
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One other thing. I'm pretty sure my car is currently running 0w-30 from factory based on short engine warm up times.
I find the 0w-30 quite slow to warm up; can be up to 1/2 hour of sedate driving for me. Could be due to lower average ambient temps in UK? I hate to think how slow it would be with 5w-30!
Yes that's slow. What do you define as warm up? Till needle lifts? or till needle reaches steady state?
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Yes that's slow. What do you define as warm up? Till needle lifts? or till needle reaches steady state?
When oil reaches steady state (needle lifts after 5-10 mins), which for me is about 100 deg C or just above 1st quarter mark (at least from what I can remember - haven't driven it for a few weeks). I have only seen it go up to 120 deg C or mid-point with sustained hard-ish driving (on post-break in demo car). I don't drive it hard until the oil reaches steady state.

I usually drive around 60mph, with the odd 2-3 sec WOT over several hours and mine stays around 100 deg C mark once warm.

Does that sound normal, or am I just driving it too gently?

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I find the 0w-30 quite slow to warm up; can be up to 1/2 hour of sedate driving for me. Could be due to lower average ambient temps in UK? I hate to think how slow it would be with 5w-30!
Mine is up to full temp after 13 minutes or 9 miles of normal driving, I go almost straight onto duel carriageway so 65/70 mph from the off.
Still cant see why a set off temperature controlled louvers cant be fitted across the rad, to get it up in minutes
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I find the 0w-30 quite slow to warm up; can be up to 1/2 hour of sedate driving for me. Could be due to lower average ambient temps in UK? I hate to think how slow it would be with 5w-30!
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Yes they are mine has it in from 1200 miles and the dealer was told to use it now instead of 5-30
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Yes that's slow. What do you define as warm up? Till needle lifts? or till needle reaches steady state?
my dealer uses 0w-30 as well
i use berry chiswick now! Top guys!

my car destroys oil crazy... every 1.5-2k miles i need to add a litre!

takes about 5-5.5 miles for needle to start lifting and another mile to go just over a quarter
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