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      12-06-2017, 03:29 PM   #45
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Very Very Soon. We should have everything rolling out within first few weeks of 2018



Yeah those guys rock! And that sucks regarding the Dinan, usually dont hear bad things about them.



Yes for sure, signatures can be "fixed" if you want to go to the dealer while flashed OR just flash your car back to stock. That is a safest way.



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Flashing via OBD2 port triggers the counter to adjust, doesn't it? Even if you revert back to stock the counter will change (2x)...and be a clue that software has been updated.

Out of warranty, not a big deal..but if still covered..I'd think otherwise.
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For a noob, can you please explain the benefits of the flash tune? More specifically what the benefits would be on a completely stock LCI F87?

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I assume you've never wanted to increase the power of your car badly enough to use google.
What's Google?

Settle down with the passive aggressiveness.
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      12-06-2017, 03:51 PM   #47
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I think the fair response any tuner or company should say is that there is no 100% guarantee. If the dealer wants to figure out if your car has a tune, they will.
But going in for routine service will not bring up an issue to investigate. Unless you removed your catalytic convertors which some dealerships are now being told to bring it to the shop foreman's attention.
Other then that, if your engine has an issue you should return it to stock before towing it to the dealership.
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I did the no cats thing with my GTR. I converted to E85 to keep it from smoking at WOT and obviously give more power, but it still stunk up the garage and kitchen.
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      12-06-2017, 05:43 PM   #48
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For a noob, can you please explain the benefits of the flash tune? More specifically what the benefits would be on a completely stock LCI F87?

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I assume you've never wanted to increase the power of your car badly enough to use google.
What's Google?

Settle down with the passive aggressiveness.

I don't think the comment by @celestion was passive aggressive at all.

Since you prefer tough love ..Try this ..

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      12-06-2017, 05:56 PM   #49
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F22 as well?
Yep, F22 with N55 will be supported right away. The F22 with B58 motor will have support shortly after.

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FXX = F80 as well?
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For a noob, can you please explain the benefits of the flash tune? More specifically what the benefits would be on a completely stock LCI F87?

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Flashing allows you to remove speed limits, cold start noise, and mainly raise the power. For example, just with the flash tune, you can get fully stock M5 from 560hp to 700whp without any other mods.

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Great news!! is it possible to remove the speed limiter with your method?
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Any luck with B58 engines? are you working on cracking those dme's?
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YES!!!! A DEALER IN BAHRAIN!!! Ill literally take a drive from jeddah to Bahrain to get this
Yeah, Mototech has been our dealer for over a year now and guys there really do know what they are doing. From 800whp+ BMWs to 1000awhp Porsches, they can build it all.

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Flashing via OBD2 port triggers the counter to adjust, doesn't it? Even if you revert back to stock the counter will change (2x)...and be a clue that software has been updated.

Out of warranty, not a big deal..but if still covered..I'd think otherwise.
There has been a lot of talk about the "Counter" in the past. The counter is irrelevant for the most part. Our own test vehicle just had the turbos replaced under warranty with the counter of 300+. If a dealer really wants to void your warranty, they will even for traces of JB4 being installed, but most wont. Remember, dealers do make good money on warranty repairs.

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      12-06-2017, 06:49 PM   #50
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When there is support for the B58 in the 340i I will be on board!
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Strong work, subscribed!! Wasn't going to tune my new F85, as the ECU had to be drilled, but this is GREAT news!
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For a noob, can you please explain the benefits of the flash tune? More specifically what the benefits would be on a completely stock LCI F87?

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I assume you've never wanted to increase the power of your car badly enough to use google.
What's Google?

Settle down with the passive aggressiveness.

I don't think the comment by @celestion was passive aggressive at all.

Since you prefer tough love ..Try this ..

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Flashing allows you to remove speed limits, cold start noise, and mainly raise the power. For example, just with the flash tune, you can get fully stock M5 from 560hp to 700whp without any other mods.
I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
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Flashing allows you to remove speed limits, cold start noise, and mainly raise the power. For example, just with the flash tune, you can get fully stock M5 from 560hp to 700whp without any other mods.
I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
That was a typo, 560 to 700hp, not whp. Tho, yes we have hit 700whp on stock hardware, tho that is very not healthy for the turbos
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I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
Multiple back to back pulls actually
M6 is still running strong thanks to Mission Performance and Autohaus Frankfurt.
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I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
Multiple back to back pulls actually
M6 is still running strong thanks to Mission Performance and Autohaus Frankfurt.
Let's see an overlay with your stock run, SAE correction and no smoothing. Also let's see engine bay pics including the stock down pipes. With all due respect, I call BS.
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What's Google?

Settle down with the passive aggressiveness.
Really though, the question you asked was profoundly lazy. It was much more fun to tease you than to actually answer your question. No offense
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I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
Multiple back to back pulls actually
M6 is still running strong thanks to Mission Performance and Autohaus Frankfurt.
Let's see an overlay with your stock run, SAE correction and no smoothing. Also let's see engine bay pics including the stock down pipes. With all due respect, I call BS.
With all due respect, you don't know much about the M5/M6 power capabilities from a tune. Any M5/M6 can sneeze out 650-700whp with a tune, all it takes is the customer to want more power. Stock runs on all M5/M6's will vary between 520-550whp.
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      12-06-2017, 11:11 PM   #59
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Excuse my silly question but will you guys be able to flash tune the F8X platform to give the car burbles using this Obd2 method you're speaking of? And can you give us an approximate date on when it'll be ready?
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This is huge!
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Excuse my silly question but will you guys be able to flash tune the F8X platform to give the car burbles using this Obd2 method you're speaking of? And can you give us an approximate date on when it'll be ready?
Yes that will not be a problem. This release is just for a platform that allows us to load our flash over OBD port instead of bench flashing. The data loaded still remains the same data we already work with currently. So anything a customer wants can be loaded, such as GTS burbles, cel deletes, monitor readiness bypass, stage 1/2/3 flashes and such.
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I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
Multiple back to back pulls actually
M6 is still running strong thanks to Mission Performance and Autohaus Frankfurt.
Let's see an overlay with your stock run, SAE correction and no smoothing. Also let's see engine bay pics including the stock down pipes. With all due respect, I call BS.
With all due respect, you don't know much about the M5/M6 power capabilities from a tune. Any M5/M6 can sneeze out 650-700whp with a tune, all it takes is the customer to want more power. Stock runs on all M5/M6's will vary between 520-550whp.
That is true, S63 is hell of a platform and power obtained is astronomical. We have hit 775whp on stock turbo, 109octane, and downpipes/intakes. That resulted in 100% turbo load and is not recommended at all, but instead was a proof of concept. Now we have safely been running our shop vehicle with stock hardware at 720whp and 90% wastegate for over 15k miles of track, daily fun and just normal driving. Zero turbo bearing free play, so turbo is pretty happy.

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what about F85 X5M?
No problems here, that will be supported. That car still uses MEVD17 ecu family.
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      12-07-2017, 01:10 AM   #64
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Wow any pricing info for f30 335i yet?

This might be another really popular product other than the jb4.
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I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
Multiple back to back pulls actually
M6 is still running strong thanks to Mission Performance and Autohaus Frankfurt.
Let's see an overlay with your stock run, SAE correction and no smoothing. Also let's see engine bay pics including the stock down pipes. With all due respect, I call BS.
With all due respect, you don't know much about the M5/M6 power capabilities from a tune. Any M5/M6 can sneeze out 650-700whp with a tune, all it takes is the customer to want more power. Stock runs on all M5/M6's will vary between 520-550whp.
That is true, S63 is hell of a platform and power obtained is astronomical. We have hit 775whp on stock turbo, 109octane, and downpipes/intakes. That resulted in 100% turbo load and is not recommended at all, but instead was a proof of concept. Now we have safely been running our shop vehicle with stock hardware at 720whp and 90% wastegate for over 15k miles of track, daily fun and just normal driving. Zero turbo bearing free play, so turbo is pretty happy.

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what about F85 X5M?
No problems here, that will be supported. That car still uses MEVD17 ecu family.
Software alone can yield 180+ whp in gains, but race gas, intakes and downpipe combo are only +75? Once again, there's a red flag here.

Since you seem to push the platform maybe you can inform us at what level of whp the stock rods bend? What can the stock clutches hold up to?

So if I wanted to pull the trigger on a tune right now, you can deliver 700whp to me without question since you have the ability and the software tools? Also edit: the car will be reliable?
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I appreciate your support for the community, but 700whp with the S63 on just a flash tune from 560bhp without supporting mods? For a single pull I assume...
Multiple back to back pulls actually
M6 is still running strong thanks to Mission Performance and Autohaus Frankfurt.
Let's see an overlay with your stock run, SAE correction and no smoothing. Also let's see engine bay pics including the stock down pipes. With all due respect, I call BS.
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