Intake comparisons?

JtheW · 12-11-2016, 07:13 PM

Is there a thread comparing all the proven gains/losses, pros/cons of all the different intakes? I think it would be helpful so that we don't have to search for each different intake thread for answers. Hopefully it doesn't turn into a shit show about how one is better than the other and all that.

13M5F10 · 12-11-2016, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by JtheW

Is there a thread comparing all the proven gains/losses, pros/cons of all the different intakes? I think it would be helpful so that we don't have to search for each different intake thread for answers. Hopefully it doesn't turn into a shit show about how one is better than the other and all that.

Doesn't exist and it will turn into a shit show unfortunately. lol

JtheW · 12-11-2016, 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Doesn't exist and it will turn into a shit show unfortunately. lol

I figured it would. Too bad because I'm sure it would be helpful like the exhaust comparison thread. Oh well.

TheHouseWon · 12-11-2016, 07:28 PM

It comes down to RK, MSR, and BMS.

JtheW · 12-11-2016, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

It comes down to RK, MSR, and BMS.

There's also Dinan, GruppeM, AFE and a few others.

KMORGSM5 · 12-11-2016, 07:41 PM

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Originally Posted by JtheW

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Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

It comes down to RK, MSR, and BMS.

There's also Dinan, GruppeM, AFE and a few others.

I have Eventuri intake and like it a lot. However, money for gains intakes are proven to not be worth it vs other mods.

Mbdurham17 · 12-12-2016, 11:07 AM

allmotor_2000 · 12-12-2016, 01:25 PM

^^ what he said...

TheHouseWon · 12-12-2016, 01:51 PM

Here's the deal:

MSR sounds the best
Eventuri looks the best
Rk flows the best
Bms sounds, looks, and flows pretty good
Gruppe M is Stock-like but has cool scoops
Dinan only works with other Dinan products

boots · 12-12-2016, 04:04 PM

And stock is the cheapest lol. Add Rpi scoops and act like you stole it

13M5F10 · 12-12-2016, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

Here's the deal:

MSR sounds the best
Eventuri looks the best
Rk flows the best
Bms sounds, looks, and flows pretty good
Gruppe M is Stock-like but has cool scoops
Dinan only works with other Dinan products

TheHouseWon · 12-12-2016, 05:31 PM

I have no horse in the race, bro. I bought the RK intake on the secondary market post-IPO. Info I posted above is completely baseless and a matter of opinion not based on relevent facts or data

The only things I have to go off of are a few flow chart numbers, grainy short videos, and members vouching for the product (could even be RK or his friends lol with multiple user names!).

Fortunately, I didn't buy into his downpipe debacle!!

Note: No one can argue that MSR sounds the best (by a wide margin) or that George gives top notch support.

momos750 · 12-12-2016, 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

I have no horse in the race, bro. I bought the RK intake on the secondary market post-IPO. Info I posted above is completely baseless and a matter of opinion not based on relevent facts or data

The only things I have to go off of are a few flow chart numbers, grainy short videos, and members vouching for the product (could even be RK or his friends lol with multiple user names!).

Fortunately, I didn't buy into his downpipe debacle!!

Note: No one can argue that MSR sounds the best (by a wide margin) or that George gives top notch support.

What downpipe debacle? I searched and didn't see anything...

TheHouseWon · 12-12-2016, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by momos750

What downpipe debacle? I searched and didn't see anything...

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1333074

Saw something on his Instagram as well. All the people (3-4 approximately) are from NJ, so I don't know what happened there but they are displeased with the quality.

I can say that the intakes are well made look cool...havent had time to install yet. I hope they perform!

momos750 · 12-12-2016, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

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Originally Posted by momos750

What downpipe debacle? I searched and didn't see anything...

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1333074

Saw something on his Instagram as well. All the people (3-4 approximately) are from NJ, so I don't know what happened there but they are displeased with the quality.

I can say that the intakes are well made look cool...havent had time to install yet. I hope they perform!

Interesting......

Thanks for the link.

Eman15 · 12-12-2016, 07:06 PM

I bought the BMS intake set strictly because of the cost. Not much at all in the gain department but wasn't to worried about that, got more than enough power from my Stage 2 BPM tune.

Sound difference is noticeable. You definitely get the WOOSH that's been described, enough to put a smile on your face but not super aggressive. Throttle response seems to be better also. Overall happy with the purchase and would buy again.

$429 bucks seemed reasonable to me for the mod- cost aside, I would've went with MSR.

gdavis · 12-12-2016, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Exactly....here we go again

ur20v · 12-13-2016, 03:45 AM

I have posted some data showing the hot air theroy is mainly just hot air lol. Did runs with different set ups from OEM to fully open cone filter - settled on a home made hybrid of BMS filterd and OEM airboxs cut open at the front. Did side by side tests i.e one side of the engine running OEM and the other various set-ups so it was a true apples to apples test. Used multi channel data recorder, multiple thermo couples mounted in locations from in side the engine bay, in front of the radiator, in side the air box in front of the filter, in the inlet pipes between the filter and the throttle and then measured the IATs on my JB4. When the data is over layed the delta is VERY small at idle i.e sat full heat soaked (40+ minutes of hard driving- sat idling for 10 minutes etc on 30+ degree days), as soon as you pull away the temps leveled to OEM. Also not the capacity of the intercoolers meant the small differences were of no significance to the ECU or engine ... same temps and no ignition pulls or throttle closures etc.

The ONLY benefit is sound, I have since gone back to full OEM, have not noticed ANY difference other than sounding smoother. I would save your money and spend elsewhere.

I think BMS and Allmotor have said there were VERY small gains but only on realy high HP power levels.

Is it worth ingesting dust and dirt like sand from a poorly designed air filter like a dry mesh filter - buy wisely and do your research - there are good and bad out there!

Also look out for possible MAF issues from over oiling of oiled cotton.

TheHouseWon · 12-13-2016, 10:27 AM

I hate facts. They get in the way of a good story

allmotor_2000 · 12-13-2016, 01:06 PM

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I hate facts. They get in the way of a good story

LI-M5 · 12-13-2016, 04:14 PM

For anyone interested , The Dwnpipe Debacle

190 comment's make sure you read thru em all , quite interesting

TheHouseWon · 12-13-2016, 04:22 PM

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TheHouseWon Colonel 644 Rep 2,039 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: SoCal iTrader: (10)	Here's the deal: MSR sounds the best Eventuri looks the best Rk flows the best Bms sounds, looks, and flows pretty good Gruppe M is Stock-like but has cool scoops Dinan only works with other Dinan products
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TheHouseWon Colonel 644 Rep 2,039 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: SoCal iTrader: (10)	I have no horse in the race, bro. I bought the RK intake on the secondary market post-IPO. Info I posted above is completely baseless and a matter of opinion not based on relevent facts or data The only things I have to go off of are a few flow chart numbers, grainy short videos, and members vouching for the product (could even be RK or his friends lol with multiple user names!). Fortunately, I didn't buy into his downpipe debacle!! Note: No one can argue that MSR sounds the best (by a wide margin) or that George gives top notch support.
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