F10 M5

[DavidC@PRO]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

Although the 997.2 with a few mods is an absolute beast

Would rent my soul for a few years to have one!

Maybe you can rent one on Turo for a day and see what it feels like, then rent your soul (wouldn't be too late)

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

Although the 997.2 with a few mods is an absolute beast

Would rent my soul for a few years to have one!

991.1 and 991.2 are even crazier. Amazing machines..

[steeve13m]

Looks like the shop "Bimmer Performance Center" built the worlds first 1000whp+ F10 M5;

https://www.facebook.com/BimmerPerfo...1326638228936/

Big garretts, modified ECU tuning (no piggyback) +meth

Apparently the F10 M5 stock engine limits are 700 wheel torque as they tested the max with a few blown engines!

Plenty of engine work;

UPGRADED COMPONENTS:

BPC Spec Darton Flanged Sleeves – Optimized wall thickness for strength that far exceeds factory Alusil cylinders without compromising block integrity or cooling characteristics
BPC Spec Carrillo H-Beam Rods – Rated at 1500 HP
BPC Spec Diamond Coated Pistons – Thermal coated crown and teflon coated skirts.
BPC Spec Total Seal Stainless Steel Piston Rings
BPC Spec Calico Coated Main & Rod Bearings
BPC Spec Spark Plugs
MACHINING SERVICES

ENGINE BLOCK

CNC Bore & Hone Process
CNC Main Bearing Line Hone
BPC Spec Optimized Engine clearances
Precision Balanced Rotating Assembly
CYLINDER HEAD

BPC Spec Ported Cylinder Heads
BPC Spec Valve seat machining
CNC Cylinder Head Resurfacing
FACTORY COMPONENTS:

BMW Revised Design Billet Aluminum Rear Coolant Cover
BMW Engine Gasket & Hardware Set
BMW High Pressure Fuel Injectors
BMW Water Pump & Thermostat

[allmotor_2000]

This thread isn’t about the first, they have a separate thread for that. This thread is about building the fastest M5....

[Dandadda]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

This thread isn’t about the first, they have a separate thread for that. This thread is about building the fastest M5....

I like this!!

[schnell1982]

Originally Posted by steeve13m

Looks like the shop "Bimmer Performance Center" built the worlds first 1000whp+ F10 M5;

https://www.facebook.com/BimmerPerfo...1326638228936/

Big garretts, modified ECU tuning (no piggyback) +meth

Apparently the F10 M5 stock engine limits are 700 wheel torque as they tested the max with a few blown engines!

Plenty of engine work;

UPGRADED COMPONENTS:

BPC Spec Darton Flanged Sleeves – Optimized wall thickness for strength that far exceeds factory Alusil cylinders without compromising block integrity or cooling characteristics
BPC Spec Carrillo H-Beam Rods – Rated at 1500 HP
BPC Spec Diamond Coated Pistons – Thermal coated crown and teflon coated skirts.
BPC Spec Total Seal Stainless Steel Piston Rings
BPC Spec Calico Coated Main & Rod Bearings
BPC Spec Spark Plugs
MACHINING SERVICES

ENGINE BLOCK

CNC Bore & Hone Process
CNC Main Bearing Line Hone
BPC Spec Optimized Engine clearances
Precision Balanced Rotating Assembly
CYLINDER HEAD

BPC Spec Ported Cylinder Heads
BPC Spec Valve seat machining
CNC Cylinder Head Resurfacing
FACTORY COMPONENTS:

BMW Revised Design Billet Aluminum Rear Coolant Cover
BMW Engine Gasket & Hardware Set
BMW High Pressure Fuel Injectors
BMW Water Pump & Thermostat

They have their own thread made many weeks ago about this

[steeve13m]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

This thread isn’t about the first, they have a separate thread for that. This thread is about building the fastest M5....

True dat...so its soon going to be a allmotor vs BPC on who gets the best time slip and whp dyno!

[allmotor_2000]

Well I still have the best time slip from the old car... so no rush.

9.9s ET
175.5mph 1/2

[BMWAUDIO]

Looks awesome! cant wait to go for a ride!!!!

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Just about done - engine startup

Great news, I bet you're happy to have her back. Did you get that shorter driveshaft installed? Does your differential brace mount up the way you'd hoped? Are you going to machine some empty space into the billet brace? If not, how much does that chunk of aluminum weigh?

[allmotor_2000]

Haven’t mounted the diff mount as of yet. Probably will be Jan before I get to that. Once it’s mounted will figure out if we are going to hollow any portions of it out.

[allmotor_2000]

Now the fun part begins:

Picked up the car yesterday from Pure. All the hardware is installed extremely well. All water, oil and pressure lines are custom made and coated with spacecraft quality sheathing to withstand 2000F+. All factory heat shields are in place except for the top and two side ones (just won’t fit). Heat management was one of our primary concerns in the design as the setup needs to be driveable and not melt anything. I drove the 150 miles in traffic and no issues!

I drove the car with boost disabled as I needed to be back to do the boost controller wiring. Terry (BMS) has a special JB4 with integrated BCM made for external WG applications. Wired all that in and HOLY MOLY!

I am currently only at 20-21psi until I have meth installed. Car rips! It honestly feels like 27-28psi in my old setup.

It spools (20psi for now) by 3.9K RPM which is phenomenal for this size turbo. The other application from what I have seen spools closer to 5K RPM, so I am glad the engineering work on the custom manifold and head porting has turned out well.

Both banks track well (we have per bank control as well). IAT, trims etc looking good without any additional fuel source.

My butt dyno says >750whp at 21psi and the top end is insane. All my previous setups would start dying after 6.4K. This pulls like a freight train to 7.2K.

Still running stock exhaust and stock air box. Once I install the meth and start dialing that in I will try an intake and other mods.

Stay tuned for more frequent updates now!

Cars and Coffee anyone?

[KMORGSM5]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Now the fun part begins:

Picked up the car yesterday from Pure. All the hardware is installed extremely well. All water, oil and pressure lines are custom made and coated with spacecraft quality sheathing to withstand 2000F+. All factory heat shields are in place except for the top and two side ones (just won’t fit). Heat management was one of our primary concerns in the design as the setup needs to be driveable and not melt anything. I drove the 150 miles in traffic and no issues!

I drove the car with boost disabled as I needed to be back to do the boost controller wiring. Terry (BMS) has a special JB4 with integrated BCM made for external WG applications. Wired all that in and HOLY MOLY!

I am currently only at 20-21psi until I have meth installed. Car rips! It honestly feels like 27-28psi in my old setup.

It spools (20psi for now) by 3.9K RPM which is phenomenal for this size turbo. The other application from what I have seen spools closer to 5K RPM, so I am glad the engineering work on the custom manifold and head porting has turned out well.

Both banks track well (we have per bank control as well). IAT, trims etc looking good without any additional fuel source.

My butt dyno says >750whp at 21psi and the top end is insane. All my previous setups would start dying after 6.4K. This pulls like a freight train to 7.2K.

Still running stock exhaust and stock air box. Once I install the meth and start dialing that in I will try an intake and other mods.

Stay tuned for more frequent updates now!

Cars and Coffee anyone?

Sounds great! Can't wait to see what she can do.

[TheHouseWon]

Did you tune it yourself? Where is the Cars & Coffee--Westlake?

[allmotor_2000]

Anywhere!!

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

Did you tune it yourself? Where is the Cars & Coffee--Westlake?

In the process of... will work with Terry as we push more power.

[allmotor_2000]

Still at the 20-22psi level and car ran a 6.3s 60-130. Checked logs and throttle was 50% closed! Pulls like a freight train. Will finish the meth install shortly and then start turning it up!

[Dandadda]

OH I'm so excited. Finally some action.

[TheHouseWon]

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Still at the 20-22psi level and car ran a 6.3s 60-130. Checked logs and throttle was 50% closed! Pulls like a freight train. Will finish the meth install shortly and then start turning it up!

50%? Are you having traction difficulties even in this beginning stage? Using the R888s? If this is happening at 60, what will happen for the standing start runs? Do the MT slicks handle it that much better?

[Dandadda]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Tried 25psi with meth and ran a 5.7s 60-130. I think the car will get into the 4’s once I am done.

To me appears to be at the 900whp range at 25psi

OMG!!

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by Used2be

50%? Are you having traction difficulties even in this beginning stage? Using the R888s? If this is happening at 60, what will happen for the standing start runs? Do the MT slicks handle it that much better?

Throttle issue is something else - working through that as we now understand what it is.

R888’s hook in 3rd so far so let’s see when those stop working. I am sure MT’s can hook 1st gear - will just control boost by gear.

Goal now is to smooth out the boost control in all gears, log and tune for various fuels... then dyno. After that will set to up for the track. I am not a fan of tuning on the dyno as it doesn’t represent reality. It’s a nice measure of relative improvement and marketing numbers.

Just enjoying driving the car again!