Thinking About An M5(Long Read)

[Cali01]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Here is an example of what happens when you don't have the experience to handle the car. The F10 M5 is a lot easier to lose control than the E60 M5.

http://www.motorauthority.com/news/1...n-bmw-m5-crash

Definitely don't want to part of story like that. Teenager still do stupid things regardless of what car they are in, I guess when given a proper performance ride it becomes a lethal combo. I used to be one of those kids who drove super fast to show off to my friends that I can go fast. But after 2 almost life threatening situations in the Turbo S, I laid off the recklessly fast driving on the public or busy streets...

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

For your age I think even M235 is more than enough!
You need to get some experiences and you are too young!
Enjoy your life with some fun car to drive... you will have lots of time in future to drive M cars! driving a powerful RWD car without enough skill is dangerous!

Not much of a coupe guy but maybe a F80 335i, but most likely if I choose not to get a M5 it's a toss up between a E90 M3 or F10 550i. Once you V8 it's hard to go back, lol. I barely drive the RX now...

[shahano]

Hi Cali01,

I actually recommend an F80 M3. that would be the perfect car for you.

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by Cali01

I used to be one of those kids who drove super fast to show off to my friends that I can go fast. But after 2 almost life threatening situations in the Turbo S, I laid off the recklessly fast driving on the public or busy streets...

Its not you it's the car. You can't own a car like this and drive slowly. And BTW if that's how you plan to drive then get a 535i Individual. It will do the same job.

If you want an M Car, you are going to drive it fast. So the key is to build your car control skills on something more normal and then switch up.

[Cali01]

Originally Posted by shahano

Hi Cali01,

I actually recommend an F80 M3. that would be the perfect car for you.

I honestly don't like the the sound it makes...

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

Its not you it's the car. You can't own a car like this and drive slowly. And BTW if that's how you plan to drive then get a 535i Individual. It will do the same job.

If you want an M Car, you are going to drive it fast. So the key is to build your car control skills on something more normal and then switch up.

I get where you are coming and for me that is the best route to go and I greatly appreciate your advice! I'm a fast driver just not reckless driver meaning switching lanes with out indicating and waiting for proper space, don't drift on busy streets anymore, don't tailgate as often anymore. But obviously I need to learn on how to drive fast on a track, something I definitely need to learn. Once I work my self up to a M5 oI sure will regular a track, so I can get the speed rush out my blood once or twice a month. Also so I can learn the driving characteristics and and how the handle them. I just don't want to endanger other drivers on the road while I'm having the time of my life.

So now lets see what I end up with a F10 550i M-Sport 6-Speed or E90 M3 6-speed...

[Tylerstar]

I would just go with a dinan stage 5 550

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Cali01

I honestly don't like the the sound it makes...



I get where you are coming and for me that is the best route to go and I greatly appreciate your advice! I'm a fast driver just not reckless driver meaning switching lanes with out indicating and waiting for proper space, don't drift on busy streets anymore, don't tailgate as often anymore. But obviously I need to learn on how to drive fast on a track, something I definitely need to learn. Once I work my self up to a M5 oI sure will regular a track, so I can get the speed rush out my blood once or twice a month. Also so I can learn the driving characteristics and and how the handle them. I just don't want to endanger other drivers on the road while I'm having the time of my life.

So now lets see what I end up with a F10 550i M-Sport 6-Speed or E90 M3 6-speed...

you want to learn how to track a car???and then you are looking for F10 550i???.... this is not a track car! If you want to learn how to track a car M235 or M3 or at least 335 is the car you need for your age. period!

[emkmd]

Although the TS sounds like a responsible kid, he is 18. At first I thought so what. But thinking back to when I was 18, over 20 years ago, I did some stupid stuff. I had a very fast car and drove around looking for 5.0 mustangs to race. I just wanted to be at a red light next to something fast so I could taunt with some revs and hopefully get them to bite. I think the m3 would be a lot more forgiving, from what I have read about the dangers of the M5. Actually from what I have read I am a little scared of my incoming M5
Regarding the M5 in Ocala, they were doing something very stupid and illegal (trespassing). I actually have an article about that accident printed up with some papers to hand my son when he gets his license in 11 years.

[TazOjla]

The M5 is a powerful car, it's damn hard to drive it slowly because of how responsive and how powerful the car is, especially when all of that power is going to the rear wheels and has a relaxed TC as stealth.pilot said, I would suggest a 535i or a used 1M (Depending on space needed, both of these cars will give you a nice feel for rear wheel drive and how BMW's are to drive. I think it is a little irresponsible of me to suggest a full fat M5 to you as you are quite young and if you were to try and impress your friends things can get out of hand quickly, I'm not saying you're a bad driver at all but I just think that this car is way to overpowered for you, as the other guys on here have said, start with something not so powerful and build your way up. Us Sikhs have a habit of drinking our sharabi and driving Great to hear your doing well at such a young age, hope business is going well!

[wrsbmw]

You are 18 and own 100 trucks debt free and have been in business for two years? Hmm, maybe I misread this thread somewhere........

[Theballzack]

Your parents have nice cars, toyotas will last them a lifetime.


Also, your dad would love an M5 if he wants the room the large sedan brings with it and not to mention the tidal wave that would follow him everywhere.

The F10 M5 is substantially better than the F10 550 m sport package (handling, speed, looks, exclusivity if thats something he cares about) *

Since you know a thing or two about the trucking business, do the truckers you know get angry when cars fly past them doing over 150mph?

[Cali01]

Originally Posted by Tylerstar

I would just go with a dinan stage 5 550

But with the amount cash I would dump in the that, can't I just go buy a M5, lol.

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

you want to learn how to track a car???and then you are looking for F10 550i???.... this is not a track car! If you want to learn how to track a car M235 or M3 or at least 335 is the car you need for your age. period!

Only reason for tracking so I can learn the characteristics of the car and how to handle it. I'm not gonna mess with anyways until I can get some coils on it, I haven't ridden in one but I'd assume the suspension is not tuned for handling my any means...

Originally Posted by emkmd

Although the TS sounds like a responsible kid, he is 18. At first I thought so what. But thinking back to when I was 18, over 20 years ago, I did some stupid stuff. I had a very fast car and drove around looking for 5.0 mustangs to race. I just wanted to be at a red light next to something fast so I could taunt with some revs and hopefully get them to bite. I think the m3 would be a lot more forgiving, from what I have read about the dangers of the M5. Actually from what I have read I am a little scared of my incoming M5
Regarding the M5 in Ocala, they were doing something very stupid and illegal (trespassing). I actually have an article about that accident printed up with some papers to hand my son when he gets his license in 11 years.

The M3 only has 414Hp so I'd hope it is ,lol. Good thinking!

Originally Posted by TazOjla

The M5 is a powerful car, it's damn hard to drive it slowly because of how responsive and how powerful the car is, especially when all of that power is going to the rear wheels and has a relaxed TC as stealth.pilot said, I would suggest a 535i or a used 1M (Depending on space needed, both of these cars will give you a nice feel for rear wheel drive and how BMW's are to drive. I think it is a little irresponsible of me to suggest a full fat M5 to you as you are quite young and if you were to try and impress your friends things can get out of hand quickly, I'm not saying you're a bad driver at all but I just think that this car is way to overpowered for you, as the other guys on here have said, start with something not so powerful and build your way up. Us Sikhs have a habit of drinking our sharabi and driving Great to hear your doing well at such a young age, hope business is going well!

Thanks man! All because of hard work, my dads big heart, and weheguru's blessing! How'd you figure I was a Punjabi? You already know desi jatt with whiskey can get very risky. You guy def have me considering working my way up now..

Originally Posted by wrsbmw

You are 18 and own 100 trucks debt free and have been in business for two years? Hmm, maybe I misread this thread somewhere........

How about aggressive expansion I didn't take out more than 10% of what I profited a month because I didn't need too I didnt have any major expenses nor did I have family to feed like many of you do. Paid back my father as I started expanding, thats the debt I'm talking about, no way you can buy trucks cash until you have 1000+trucks. I still don't take out full profit because I want to expand because I have loads that I can't deliver my self and have to brokered out which my customers do not prefer. The whole reason I had to expand in such an aggressive manner was because I was having a unacceptable amount of service failures by people I brokered my loads to, so I wanted to increase my capacity. Until my last 10 trucks I wasn't buying brand new trucks costing 120k. I started my way out with 10 trucks with 500k+ miles didn't pay more 55k on each of those, for my next 30 trucks i went the same route. Then I went to trucks with sub 350k miles on them for my next 50, payed no more than 75k for those. I bought 10 trucks about every 2 months. Now if your going to say how did you have funds to expand so aggressively??? A. I brokered tons of loads in the beginning B. I had about 70 owner operators, guys who own their owns trucks but use my DOT#, so I was making straight profit off those trucks because they don't cost me anything. I did make a mistake in the beginning when I only had 10 trucks I lied to my first few customers that I had capacity for 120-150 loads a week and thinking that they will give me 10-30 loads a week to my surprise 3 out of my 4 contracts then starting giving 30-50 ls loads a week, so I had start to aggressively hiring O.Os and brokering tons of loads. Once I handled my capacity through O.Os and minimally brokering, it gave me the capital to expand my company fleet aggressively and allowing to me increase load capacity in the end equaling more money. Mind you controlling this casos was done the first to months. Just as a tip companies that only have 50 fleet trucks make the low end of 7 figures in profit, so you tell how can I not expand the way I did. Nothing was on my name until I turned 18 because as you know a minor legally can't hold contracts. Hope this makes sense. I'm not one to make attack a persons integrity so I'd appreciate if you lay off mine...
No Hard Feelings,
Manjot Thind

[Cali01]

Originally Posted by Theballzack

Your parents have nice cars, toyotas will last them a lifetime.


Also, your dad would love an M5 if he wants the room the large sedan brings with it and not to mention the tidal wave that would follow him everywhere.

The F10 M5 is substantially better than the F10 550 m sport package (handling, speed, looks, exclusivity if thats something he cares about) *

Since you know a thing or two about the trucking business, do the truckers you know get angry when cars fly past them doing over 150mph?

Parents bought me the RX. I bought the LX. So both are mine. Thanks for the suggestion!

[MattUK]

Agree with the 1M suggestion! That's a fun car, sounds awesome and gives you similar power in a slightly more handling package and looks great in orange.

For me when I got my first BMW I wanted an M3 but instead started with a 318 then 328 to get me used to driving a rear wheel drive and then upped the power over time.

That said when I finally got in an M3 the first time I entered a motorway I floored it on the slip and did a 360 before I knew what had hit me (before the days of Stability systems) so even when you think you know what you are doing you can suddenly come unstuck very quickly.

However I don't wish to preach, we've all been 18 and wanted the fastest cars so I feel for you.

Good luck

[bimmer-boy]

Originally Posted by Cali01

But with the amount cash I would dump in the that, can't I just go buy a M5, lol.

Only reason for tracking so I can learn the characteristics of the car and how to handle it. I'm not gonna mess with anyways until I can get some coils on it, I haven't ridden in one but I'd assume the suspension is not tuned for handling my any means...

The M3 only has 414Hp so I'd hope it is ,lol. Good thinking!

Thanks man! All because of hard work, my dads big heart, and weheguru's blessing! How'd you figure I was a Punjabi? You already know desi jatt with whiskey can get very risky. You guy def have me considering working my way up now..

How about aggressive expansion I didn't take out more than 10% of what I profited a month because I didn't need too I didnt have any major expenses nor did I have family to feed like many of you do. Paid back my father as I started expanding, thats the debt I'm talking about, no way you can buy trucks cash until you have 1000+trucks. I still don't take out full profit because I want to expand because I have loads that I can't deliver my self and have to brokered out which my customers do not prefer. The whole reason I had to expand in such an aggressive manner was because I was having a unacceptable amount of service failures by people I brokered my loads to, so I wanted to increase my capacity. Until my last 10 trucks I wasn't buying brand new trucks costing 120k. I started my way out with 10 trucks with 500k+ miles didn't pay more 55k on each of those, for my next 30 trucks i went the same route. Then I went to trucks with sub 350k miles on them for my next, payed no more than 75k for those. I bought 10 trucks about every 2 months. Now if your going to say how did you have funds to expand so aggressively??? A. I brokered tons of loads in the beginning B. I had about 70 owner operators, guys who own their owns trucks but use my DOT#, so I was making straight profit off those trucks because they don't cost me anything. I did make a mistake in the beginning when I only had 10 trucks I lied to my first few customers that I had capacity for 120-150 loads a week and thinking that they will give me 10-30 loads a week to my surprise 3 out of my 4 contracts then starting giving 30-50 ls loads a week, so I had start to aggressively hiring O.Os and brokering tons of loads. Once I handled my capacity through O.Os and minimally brokering, it gave me the capital to expand my company fleet aggressively and allowing to me increase load capacity in the end equaling more money. Mind you controlling this casos was done the first to months. Just as a tip companies that only have 50 fleet trucks make the low end of 7 figures in profit, so you tell how can I not expand the way I did. Nothing was on my name until I turned 18 because as you know a minor legally can't hold contracts. Hope this makes sense. I'm not one to make attack a persons integrity so I'd appreciate if you lay off mine...
No Hard Feelings,
Manjot Thind

Singh is king! Congrats on your successes thus far..

Think the surname gave away the punjabi part
Even I thought the same, and I'm for the UK.

If you don't require the space requirements of a 5 series, id say take a test drive in a 1m (a much rarer car in my opinion YOU won't see very often) and less power but much more nimble.

All the best

[M5Rlz]

Why am I looking at pics of lexus'

Originally Posted by TazOjla

The M5 is a powerful car, it's damn hard to drive it slowly because of how responsive and how powerful the car is, especially when all of that power is going to the rear wheels and has a relaxed TC as stealth.pilot said, I would suggest a 535i or a used 1M (Depending on space needed, both of these cars will give you a nice feel for rear wheel drive and how BMW's are to drive. I think it is a little irresponsible of me to suggest a full fat M5 to you as you are quite young and if you were to try and impress your friends things can get out of hand quickly, I'm not saying you're a bad driver at all but I just think that this car is way to overpowered for you, as the other guys on here have said, start with something not so powerful and build your way up. Us Sikhs have a habit of drinking our sharabi and driving Great to hear your doing well at such a young age, hope business is going well!

Oh please I lol I'm aroundhis age and dropped 20k miles on the m5 and I'm still here (and I had the stage 1 since like 2500 or 3500k miles)

He won't die unless he's trying too lol. And besides I only got pulled over 4 times [no front plate offenes] , and handcuffed once [long story]

Op will be fine... If he's really looking for luxo and sleeper power a tuned m5 will be nuts, but if he really wants to feel the speed you guys are right about getting a different car.

[M5essex]

I say get an E92 M3 with comp pack. such a sweat NA v8 that you can trust, has progressive power, no lag or sudden turbo like boost. still favourite of all my past cars... I started with a right old shit box car at 17/18 and got an E36 M3 evo at 23, after saving for like forever. I wrote it off within 5 months and never forgave myself. it was pre 1997 so had no traction control and boy I needed it. I too did a 360 on a slip road entering a dual carriageway, when the rear end had a mind of it's own...

The E92 M3 I owned until this year allowed me to drive hard and can be very forgiving if you treat it right. it looked after me for 3 years without fail. I had several driving days and driver training in a V8 m3 so I could realise the potential of the car and its limits and wow... it will amaze you what the car is capable of, especially round a track. for all your UK guys, I have done Jonathan Palmer Sports a couple of times now and it is probably the best day ever!!

Now I have the F10 M5 cp, I have to say it still scares me sometimes just how much power this beast has. you cannot underestimate it or completely trust it. even in a straight line in dry warm conditions, the traction light is fighting to keep grip. if you turn off the traction, you better brace yourself for a burn out and plume of smoke, if not a crash.

I do not know your driving style, but at 18 there is not a chance in hell of you keeping the M5 on the road or out of trouble for long. it's not as fun as the M3, because it's so much heavier and more powerful. but if I was in your shoes, with money no object, i'd be getting a lambo, Ferrari, R8 or Porsche... not a 2tn family saloon car, and screw what other people said to me, but i'd have my tail between my legs shortly after, when I come unstuck and stack it!
good luck mate and keep safe

[Palomequet]

Crazy thread. That who sleeps with kids wakes up wet. Sorry.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by M5essex

I say get an E92 M3 with comp pack. such a sweat NA v8 that you can trust, has progressive power, no lag or sudden turbo like boost. still favourite of all my past cars... I started with a right old shit box car at 17/18 and got an E36 M3 evo at 23, after saving for like forever. I wrote it off within 5 months and never forgave myself. it was pre 1997 so had no traction control and boy I needed it. I too did a 360 on a slip road entering a dual carriageway, when the rear end had a mind of it's own...

The E92 M3 I owned until this year allowed me to drive hard and can be very forgiving if you treat it right. it looked after me for 3 years without fail. I had several driving days and driver training in a V8 m3 so I could realise the potential of the car and its limits and wow... it will amaze you what the car is capable of, especially round a track. for all your UK guys, I have done Jonathan Palmer Sports a couple of times now and it is probably the best day ever!!

Now I have the F10 M5 cp, I have to say it still scares me sometimes just how much power this beast has. you cannot underestimate it or completely trust it. even in a straight line in dry warm conditions, the traction light is fighting to keep grip. if you turn off the traction, you better brace yourself for a burn out and plume of smoke, if not a crash.

I do not know your driving style, but at 18 there is not a chance in hell of you keeping the M5 on the road or out of trouble for long. it's not as fun as the M3, because it's so much heavier and more powerful. but if I was in your shoes, with money no object, i'd be getting a lambo, Ferrari, R8 or Porsche... not a 2tn family saloon car, and screw what other people said to me, but i'd have my tail between my legs shortly after, when I come unstuck and stack it!
good luck mate and keep safe

Oh my gosh its not a 800whp fox body or Switzer Godzilla GTR lol Unless he's trying to take 30mph turns at 90+ or trying to to go 155 in 35mph zones where the roads clearly can't take it... He'll be fine.

I hit the limiter ALLL THE TIME.

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Oh my gosh its not a 800whp fox body or Switzer Godzilla GTR lol Unless he's trying to take 30mph turns at 90+ or trying to to go 155 in 35mph zones where the roads clearly can't take it... He'll be fine.

I hit the limiter ALLL THE TIME.

I know I know... I sound like a fucking pussy old man. i'm not i'm 30+ but at 18 I was an idiot and would have killed myself in an M5

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by M5essex

I know I know... I sound like a fucking pussy old man. i'm not i'm 30+ but at 18 I was an idiot and would have killed myself in an M5

lol We're just overly cautious here.

The MDM is a life saver, and yeah the weight will bite very hard if you push it just a tad past that great weight hiding engineering bmw did.... I was getting it to kick out almost 100% sideways in the winter driving around on summers in 8 degree weather lol. He should be find if he's got a sane bone in his body...

The car has amazing brakes and engineering so you've REALLY gotta be high on the stupid meter to botch it and I think I was pretty high on it lol


Idiots are idiots and any car can kill them

[TazOjla]

Originally Posted by Cali01

Thanks bro! Are you Punjabi too?

Kinda gave me hint with this, what's going through your mind then with the M5, gonna go with it or something less powerful? Just rember Waheguru G has stuck with us all but he can't save us all. And stay away from the damn whiskey lol

[Tom C]

If you have to constantly caveat "this is not a troll" in your post...that might be a sign that you should reword your post and omit superfluous stuff like pictures of Lexus SUVs and the history of your trucking empire. Otherwise, it is really hard to take this post serious and it might as well be a troll post... just saying...