Best filter(s) for the msr intakes

[Rockin-The-F10]

I've got the ones that come the msr intakes, but I've seen a lot of guys running k&n filters that are about twice the size and length that pretty much fill up the entire space.
Are the k&n filters any better?
Also, recently heard guys saying the msr filters are the reason the intakes make the sounds it does. I dont think that filters are the culprit, but feel free to enlighten me.

So should i keep the msr filters or do k&n? Or does it make no difference at all(more likely)

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by Rockin-The-F10

I've got the ones that come the msr intakes, but I've seen a lot of guys running k&n filters that are about twice the size and length that pretty much fill up the entire space.
Are the k&n filters any better?
Also, recently heard guys saying the msr filters are the reason the intakes make the sounds it does. I dont think that filters are the culprit, but feel free to enlighten me.

So should i keep the msr filters or do k&n? Or does it make no difference at all(more likely)

My concern with the K&Ns in front grill is that they do get soaked pretty bad when it rains. I've personally seen it. The MSRs do not as badly. I don't know how much of that affects things. I also do not like the look.

[Rockin-The-F10]

Ive got the sacks/bags that go over the filters to stop water from soaking them... seems to keep them dry thus far. And that's in South Florida.

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by Rockin-The-F10

Ive got the sacks/bags that go over the filters to stop water from soaking them... seems to keep them dry thus far. And that's in South Florida.

I hate the socks, restricts airflow some.

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by 13M5F10

My concern with the K&Ns in front grill is that they do get soaked pretty bad when it rains. I've personally seen it. The MSRs do not as badly. I don't know how much of that affects things. I also do not like the look.

Wait what the hell kind of logic is this.

Filter A gets soaked in the rain
Filter B does "not get soaked" in the rain

Where do you think that water goes on filter B?

I'll give you a hint, it doesn't magically evaporate.

-R

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by Raza@RKautowerks

Wait what the hell kind of logic is this.

Filter A gets soaked in the rain
Filter B does "not get soaked" in the rain

Where do you think that water goes on filter B?

I'll give you a hint, it doesn't magically evaporate.

-R

RAza, I don't want to start an MsR vs RK thread with you. The cotton filters get soaked in the rain and let in more water than the stainless blitz. We have too many friends running K&N filters and others stainless and we found more water in the intakes with the K&N vs Stainless.

That's my opinion. You'll have yours. Leave it at that.

[Sales@RKautowerks]

Originally Posted by 13M5F10

RAza, I don't want to start an MsR vs RK thread with you. The cotton filters get soaked in the rain and let in more water than the stainless blitz. We have too many friends running K&N filters and others stainless and we found more water in the intakes with the K&N vs Stainless.

That's my opinion. You'll have yours. Leave it at that.

Answer my question, where does the water go.

-R

[TheHouseWon]

OP. Whoosh volume is 100% attributable to filter and its location. K&N filters better at the expense of some sound.

The goal right now is to fit blitz filters onto RK's intakes, you'll get sound, good design, and carbon fiber. All at a lower price point.

[apexlocator]

From what I've gathered from these intake threads is that the blitz filters don't filter as well as K&N. So the question is, do you need that level of filtration given the bends in the intake pipes? If blitz let's pass finer debris, will it make it into your engine?....I think so. If I had chosen MSR, I would probably have fitted better filters.

[ur20v]

Apexlocator, filtration is down to the filter medium, the bends don't make a difference.

13F10M5, think you are saying the K&N filter cotton gets damp from rain where the MSR stainless filter doesn't hold as much- there is some thruth to this but you are talking very small difference in water holding capacity and this has no bearing on a running engine where both filters will pass the same amount of water in the same conditions.

Stainless mess holds water- wet a sieve and then banging it on your hands- you will notice the water it held, the finer the mesh and bigger the area the more water.

The K&N filter socks are there just to run off water when jet washing etc only, it will pass water the same as a stainless mesh once there is a negative pressure on the inside i.e engine running.

Eitherway this makes no difference to the engine (other than very small positives in volumetric efficiencys, cooling and carbon cleaning) unless you drown the filters in a flood, or deep puddle then both filter types will hydro lock your engine- the OEM airboxes have large holes (country / weather specific) in the base to help with this issue (which I see a lot of people blank off lol)

So everyone is right and wrong lol.

[Rockin-The-F10]

WELLLLL back to my original question..

Which is better? Lol

[crazyhorse02]

Blitz filters have 200-150 micron mesh. K&N is rated up to 10 microns, I think. The Blitz is much less restrictive. It will allow much more airflow, but also much more dust. If your looking for filtration of dirt and dust then K&N is the answer. Air flow and a bigger whoosh sound? Blitz.

[evilb]

Originally Posted by Raza@RKautowerks

Wait what the hell kind of logic is this.

Filter A gets soaked in the rain
Filter B does "not get soaked" in the rain

Where do you think that water goes on filter B?

I'll give you a hint, it doesn't magically evaporate.

-R

Are your filters not mounted more sideways?

[TheHouseWon]

Originally Posted by evilb

Are your filters not mounted more sideways?

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by ur20v

Apexlocator, filtration is down to the filter medium, the bends don't make a difference.

13F10M5, think you are saying the K&N filter cotton gets damp from rain where the MSR stainless filter doesn't hold as much- there is some thruth to this but you are talking very small difference in water holding capacity and this has no bearing on a running engine where both filters will pass the same amount of water in the same conditions.

Stainless mess holds water- wet a sieve and then banging it on your hands- you will notice the water it held, the finer the mesh and bigger the area the more water.

The K&N filter socks are there just to run off water when jet washing etc only, it will pass water the same as a stainless mesh once there is a negative pressure on the inside i.e engine running.

Eitherway this makes no difference to the engine (other than very small positives in volumetric efficiencys, cooling and carbon cleaning) unless you drown the filters in a flood, or deep puddle then both filter types will hydro lock your engine- the OEM airboxes have large holes (country / weather specific) in the base to help with this issue (which I see a lot of people blank off lol)

So everyone is right and wrong lol.

Agreed with what you said and that's what I was trying to say. I just found that the K&N retains more water than the stainless. Just my opinion based on what I've experienced. It won't hydrolock an engine but I thought it would negatively impact airflow some.