Poor quality of merino leather....

KMORGSM5 · 09-14-2016, 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TrevorM3

I have silverstone for a month for for on the m5, kicking my ass... does bmw make some kind of seat cover or coating... anything??

http://opticoat.com/page/opti-guard-leather

M5 London · 09-14-2016, 06:23 PM

I have Silverstone on my M6 GC.

14,500 miles in 9 months.

G Technic Leather Guard (nano protection) once so far.

Clean every 3/4 months with Dr. Leather cleaner.

Leather looks and feels brand new...and there's a LOT of leather in this car !

M5 London · 09-14-2016, 06:25 PM

I have Silverstone on my M6 GC.

14,500 miles in 9 months.

G Technic Leather Guard (nano protection) once so far.

Clean every 3/4 months with Dr. Leather cleaner.

Leather looks and feels brand new...and there's a LOT of leather in this car !

ur20v · 09-16-2016, 04:52 AM

I would say user error not bmw fault - in 40 years I have never seen leather like this unless it was on a VERY old car like a modle T in a barn find!

OP you will get no where with BMW, you have admitted to using a non-bmw product on your seats, no matter how how good a quality the produst is and what it says on the tin... BMW spell this out in the owners manual and warranty T&C's

bimmer-boy · 09-16-2016, 07:27 AM

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Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

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Originally Posted by singularity

43,000 km in 1.5 year, you sure have been driving a lot and that leather damage is most likely due to you giving the car to random car washes who in turn have exposed it to chemicals. To compare and share my experience, my car is also 1.5 years old with 14,000 km on it and there is not a single scratch, literally in perfect condition. I always buy and use BMW's own cleaning products and use it on everything covered with leather in the interior at least once a week, at the same car wash where guys wash the car with a lot of care.

To compare, I noticed you drive 535i, not M5. Are you sure the quality of leather is the same? Maybe you'd get better replies and info from 5 series forum too.

I agree. There is some abuse going on here. This wear is not normal. My seats have 8500 miles on them and look brand new - literally there is no difference between the seats now and when I got the car at the Welt.

Good job, but what's your secret to keeping them looking new

lemetier · 09-16-2016, 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by TrevorM3

I have silverstone for a month for for on the m5, kicking my ass... does bmw make some kind of seat cover or coating... anything??

Kettle Steamer with white terry cloth. Easily lifts off all grime including dye transfer on light colors, causes the soft lamb skin to tighten back up, and leaves no residue behind. Follow up with a dab of Swissvax Leather milk. No need for sealers or chemical cleaners.

My M5 has Graphite Interior but the hydes are still as perfect now as they were 20k mi ago.

The BMW products are from Sonax and don't do well on Analine Merino.

ur20v · 09-16-2016, 10:44 PM

^^^ which is fine as long as you don't have a problem, if you use the BMW product and have a problem because this product was an issue its still BMW's issue and not yours. If you use anything not on the approved list you are on your own, just like engine oils etc.

Don't for get chemical transfer could be the cause here i.e fly spray, sun cream, spray tan, chemicals from work or local area the car is used, also from clothing. These could come from the owner, service, valet parking or even the wife using hair spray, makeup, perfume etc

lemetier · 09-17-2016, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ur20v

^^^ which is fine as long as you don't have a problem, if you use the BMW product and have a problem because this product was an issue its still BMW's issue and not yours. If you use anything not on the approved list you are on your own, just like engine oils etc.

Don't for get chemical transfer could be the cause here i.e fly spray, sun cream, spray tan, chemicals from work or local area the car is used, also from clothing. These could come from the owner, service, valet parking or even the wife using hair spray, makeup, perfume etc

Probably why BMW Individual recommend and Rolls Royce is partnered with Swissvax. Soft leather will wear well if properly cared for with minimal use of cleaners and conditioners.

ur20v · 09-17-2016, 04:37 AM

Agreed.

100%Cocoa · 09-21-2016, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ur20v

^^^ which is fine as long as you don't have a problem, if you use the BMW product and have a problem because this product was an issue its still BMW's issue and not yours. If you use anything not on the approved list you are on your own, just like engine oils etc.

Don't for get chemical transfer could be the cause here i.e fly spray, sun cream, spray tan, chemicals from work or local area the car is used, also from clothing. These could come from the owner, service, valet parking or even the wife using hair spray, makeup, perfume etc

What he said. This is not normal!

09-14-2016, 06:23 PM	#46
M5 London Second Lieutenant 331 Rep 231 Posts Drives: F90 M5 LCI - Aventurine Red Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: South Kensington, London iTrader: (0)	I have Silverstone on my M6 GC. 14,500 miles in 9 months. G Technic Leather Guard (nano protection) once so far. Clean every 3/4 months with Dr. Leather cleaner. Leather looks and feels brand new...and there's a LOT of leather in this car ! __________________ F90 M5 LCI - Aventurine Red/Smoked White-E39 M5 - Modified ESS Supercharger Kit -E34 M5 1995 - Arctic Silver / Black Leather- E30 M3 1987 - Diamond Black Metallic / Black Leather-996 Turbo - Lapis Blue/Savannah-VW Rallye Golf
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09-14-2016, 06:25 PM	#47
M5 London Second Lieutenant 331 Rep 231 Posts Drives: F90 M5 LCI - Aventurine Red Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: South Kensington, London iTrader: (0)	I have Silverstone on my M6 GC. 14,500 miles in 9 months. G Technic Leather Guard (nano protection) once so far. Clean every 3/4 months with Dr. Leather cleaner. Leather looks and feels brand new...and there's a LOT of leather in this car ! __________________ F90 M5 LCI - Aventurine Red/Smoked White-E39 M5 - Modified ESS Supercharger Kit -E34 M5 1995 - Arctic Silver / Black Leather- E30 M3 1987 - Diamond Black Metallic / Black Leather-996 Turbo - Lapis Blue/Savannah-VW Rallye Golf
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09-16-2016, 04:52 AM	#48
ur20v Captain 184 Rep 788 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WA Australia iTrader: (0)	I would say user error not bmw fault - in 40 years I have never seen leather like this unless it was on a VERY old car like a modle T in a barn find! OP you will get no where with BMW, you have admitted to using a non-bmw product on your seats, no matter how how good a quality the produst is and what it says on the tin... BMW spell this out in the owners manual and warranty T&C's
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09-16-2016, 10:44 PM	#51
ur20v Captain 184 Rep 788 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WA Australia iTrader: (0)	^^^ which is fine as long as you don't have a problem, if you use the BMW product and have a problem because this product was an issue its still BMW's issue and not yours. If you use anything not on the approved list you are on your own, just like engine oils etc. Don't for get chemical transfer could be the cause here i.e fly spray, sun cream, spray tan, chemicals from work or local area the car is used, also from clothing. These could come from the owner, service, valet parking or even the wife using hair spray, makeup, perfume etc
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09-17-2016, 04:37 AM	#53
ur20v Captain 184 Rep 788 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: WA Australia iTrader: (0)	Agreed.
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