Who's getting the new M5?

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

You missed the key words "as heavily." I'll still mod it of course.

But in my case I'm finally in a position to start collecting cars. So I'm not planning on ever getting rid of my F10. I plan on getting an E39 and another E60 before I get the F90 M5. My next E60 M5 is going to be a 6MT though and I'm very picky on options for the E60, so it's going to take a long time.

Thats what I'd do if I was in the position to store cars...

I'd want:
A MINT 335i N54... First car I modded
E92 M3 last of the NA V8s for BMW
E60 M5 V10 BMW? Never again
Stock CBA 2009 GTR with like 5-10k miles
DBA+ GTR probably buy my car back that I just sold

[Vic55]

I personally will be looking forward to the AWD setup and defeatable option- this car will finally be entirely usable from a dig and roll without all that wheel spin. I know a few are on the RWD crack program but I'm on the driveability program and this car will be much better in 9/10ths of the situations that "I" drive.

But the E63S is out soon and that car should be an interesting and earlier available competitor. Even the RS7 Performance is out and really is an easy daily car albeit with some tq steer.

Im always looking at whats available now so maybe the E63S first and then the M5???

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I personally will be looking forward to the AWD setup and defeatable option- this car will finally be entirely usable from a dig and roll without all that wheel spin. I know a few are on the RWD crack program but I'm on the driveability program and this car will be much better in 9/10ths of the situations that "I" drive.

But the E63S is out soon and that car should be an interesting and earlier available competitor. Even the RS7 Performance is out and really is an easy daily car albeit with some tq steer.

Im always looking at whats available now so maybe the E63S first and then the M5???

M4 coupes is that crack guy you mention.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

M4 coupes is that crack guy you mention.

Yeah LOL cause he be like the tokyo drifter

[mstmng]

Originally Posted by clar

I thot that only happens where I am. So heartening to hear that we are not alone in this misery

i am at loss of 45% in 3.5 years and 41k miles from the price i paid, after previous owner lost 34% owning it from new for 1.5 year and 7k miles

you are definitely not alone

I sure as hell regret selling my e90 as it has not lost any penny since I have sold it and now e92 I would like to buy (4 years old (last 4-5 months of production)/frozen paint/competition package/20-40k miles) is worth 2 times my car

unfair world

[mstmng]

Originally Posted by M5essex

I can vouch for that!! Some poor sod shed at least £80k of the new 650s spyder's value I bought after just 5 months and 400 miles

wait till it is time for you to sell it

how many varieties of your car came out since you bought yours? 675LT/675LTS/2-3 special editions of 650s/688HS/etc

McLarens are probably the most depreciating automakers in the world, but awesome car and looks are WOW!

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by mstmng

i am at loss of 45% in 3.5 years and 41k miles from the price i paid, after previous owner lost 34% owning it from new for 1.5 year and 7k miles

you are definitely not alone

I sure as hell regret selling my e90 as it has not lost any penny since I have sold it and now e92 I would like to buy (4 years old (last 4-5 months of production)/frozen paint/competition package/20-40k miles) is worth 2 times my car

unfair world

Then again, if you never sell the car, do you really lose anything on it?

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

M4 coupes is that crack guy you mention.

Originally Posted by Vic55

Yeah LOL cause he be like the tokyo drifter

LOL... You guys shut***

[mstmng]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Then again, if you never sell the car, do you really lose anything on it?

Hahaha
Good point, but debatable

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I personally will be looking forward to the AWD setup and defeatable option- this car will finally be entirely usable from a dig and roll without all that wheel spin. I know a few are on the RWD crack program but I'm on the driveability program and this car will be much better in 9/10ths of the situations that "I" drive.

But the E63S is out soon and that car should be an interesting and earlier available competitor. Even the RS7 Performance is out and really is an easy daily car albeit with some tq steer.

Im always looking at whats available now so maybe the E63S first and then the M5???

New M5 is getting more and more interesting, wonder how will BMW does it.

New E63S is even heavier than the previous version.

And the new Pam Turbo is a pig as well, the Turbo S E-Hybrid is a super-sized pig.

Seems like both the Merc and Porsche doesn't really care about weight savings (both 2000kg +), while most here are expecting the new M5 (current one is 1945kg) to come in well under 2000kg.

I more conservative, I will believe it when a magazine actually weighted the new M5 (when it comes out) because often times when a manufacture talked about weight saving, its only the chassis, after you add on all the new bells and whistles, not that much weight have been saved.

But with that said, as long as the new M5 is not heavier than the current one, and I don't think it will, it will be lighter than the competition.

[gsc]

Looking forward to ther AWD and it has to be priced right. With the RS7 pushing 130k+, I hop BMW stays close to their current pricing

[TheHouseWon]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

Never buy a new M-car again... it loses 50% of its value in 3 years

I bought mine for a 42% discount from msrp! I would say it is the best money ever spent. Another thing to add is never buy pre-lci

[M5essex]

Originally Posted by TheHouseWon

I bought mine for a 42% discount from msrp! I would say it is the best money ever spent. Another thing to add is never buy pre-lci

Did they do lci in the macca range? Or just come out with a replacement model within 4/5 years...

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

New M5 is getting more and more interesting, wonder how will BMW does it.

New E63S is even heavier than the previous version.

And the new Pam Turbo is a pig as well, the Turbo S E-Hybrid is a super-sized pig.

Seems like both the Merc and Porsche doesn't really care about weight savings (both 2000kg +), while most here are expecting the new M5 (current one is 1945kg) to come in well under 2000kg.

I more conservative, I will believe it when a magazine actually weighted the new M5 (when it comes out) because often times when a manufacture talked about weight saving, its only the chassis, after you add on all the new bells and whistles, not that much weight have been saved.

But with that said, as long as the new M5 is not heavier than the current one, and I don't think it will, it will be lighter than the competition.

G30 is already lighter than F10 so for sure the F90 M5 wil be lighter than F10 M5 if it's RWD . How much? No idea as you said depends on the packages. Then AWD will add some weights. It may offset the weight saving but overall I have a feeling that M5 will be lighter than all competitors...

[clar]

Yes, it will be considerably lighter than its predecessor, about 20 lbs all in...

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Then again, if you never sell the car, do you really lose anything on it? :roll eyes:

It seems like many of you are in the enviable situation of being able to absorb the financial hit from your BMW turnover every few years. I'm not able to do that, but I've bought a car that suits my desires and plan to keep it for many years.

It's inevitable that the styling, features, and performance of new models will change as the years pass, but I'm pleased with the F10 M5. I enjoy making the small changes which personalize the car to my taste over the years. By the time I sell it the depreciation will have long ago bottomed out.

[RaTeD ///M]

Originally Posted by Msizzle

personally the awd is a deal breaker, obviously its faster and will put power down more efficiently but the feeling is just not for me

Its suppose to come with push button RWD to compete with the new E63 drift mode so RWD when u want and AWD when needed. Unless the added weight for the AWD is deal breaker for u....

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Used2be

It seems like many of you are in the enviable situation of being able to absorb the financial hit from your BMW turnover every few years. I'm not able to do that, but I've bought a car that suits my desires and plan to keep it for many years.

It's inevitable that the styling, features, and performance of new models will change as the years pass, but I'm pleased with the F10 M5. I enjoy making the small changes which personalize the car to my taste over the years. By the time I sell it the depreciation will have long ago bottomed out.

Just sell it 10 years from now with 150,000 miles on it and you will have gotten your use out of it and have beaten depreciation for sure.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Just sell it 10 years from now with 150,000 miles on it and you will have gotten your use out of it and have beaten depreciation for sure.

Yeah probably still worth 10-20k in another 10 years... But given BMWs structure and mass M marketing, and really what I'd say is lack of innovation it was inventible post Chris Bangle.. Given they've now had ample time since he left in 09 and i'm sure he had a hand in the F10/F30 series, but now seeing what they're doing a generation after his departure I can say its largely unimpressive.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Yeah probably still worth 10-20k in another 10 years... But given BMWs structure and mass M marketing, and really what I'd say is lack of innovation it was inventible post Chris Bangle.. Given they've now had ample time since he left in 09 and i'm sure he had a hand in the F10/F30 series, but now seeing what they're doing a generation after his departure I can say its largely unimpressive.

No offense but I dont understand why everybody criticizes BMW by mass M priduction while nobody says the same thing when MB is going for AMG for every single fucking model including the ridiculous CLA or when Porsche has a big fat pig name Panamera turbo S or that toys Macan turbo(s?)... I dont even want to mention American cars when they have a 6.4 liter engine with 650 hp/tq and install it on ANY CAR!!!

[GladiatorOwner]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

No offense but I dont understand why everybody criticizes BMW by mass M priduction while nobody says the same thing when MB is going for AMG for every single fucking model including the ridiculous CLA or when Porsche has a big fat pig name Panamera turbo S or that toys Macan turbo(s?)... I dont even want to mention American cars when they have a 6.4 liter engine with 650 hp/tq and install it on ANY CAR!!!

AGREED! They all do it!

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

Yeah probably still worth 10-20k in another 10 years... But given BMWs structure and mass M marketing, and really what I'd say is lack of innovation it was inventible post Chris Bangle.. Given they've now had ample time since he left in 09 and i'm sure he had a hand in the F10/F30 series, but now seeing what they're doing a generation after his departure I can say its largely unimpressive.

I agree for the most part. For example, people love the BMW M2. I personally hate it, but not because it drives bad. I've driven one on the track BTW. I hate it because it's not what it could have been. I think the M2 should have been a lighter car to begin with, 100lbs lighter than an M4 at least, with a 380hp Naturally Aspirated reworked and redesigned S54 engine that revs to at least 8,000rpm, forged internals for engine longevity. Carbon Fiber Roof, with a manual steering rack and no iDrive screen/system whatsoever, Manual Transmission only, Cloth Interior no leather, except maybe the dash and upper door sills, with a simple set of buttons for Comfort, Sport and Sport+ modes, forget Eco-Pro. A set of unique Side-View Mirrors only that the M2 has, and a set of unique wheels only the M2 has as well. Xenon Headlights only, as is currently offered and a couple of extra carbon fiber bits to keep the weight down such as Carbon Fiber Drive Shaft, Carbon Fiber Trunk or Hood, etc.. Then boom, you've got yourself a direct engagement BMW M Driving Machine that revs to the moon, sounds badass, and has the steering feel of a yesteryear Porsche. If BMW did that and say limited production to about 3,000 units worldwide, man that would've been an awesome car. Forget laptimes, it's the driving experience that would make people want to buy one.

Hell, this actually has given me an idea for a an excellent project car build.