M5 Carbon Ceramic brakes

[journeyguy]

Are the CCB covered under free maintenance 4yrs / 50K ?

[PhilT3]

According to my CA, who's been doin this for 22 years... Yes, they are covered.

[zirotti]

Yes they are, surprisingly. Probably why they are a $9300 option.

[WCH]

My CA also checked and said that they are covered.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by WCH

My CA also checked and said that they are covered.

I am getting them on the M4 for this reason and a cool service advisor!!

[Ex_Stig]

I'm having trouble getting onto the BMW website, but I thought I remembered that the CCBs were not covered by the scheduled maintenance. I dug up an old article that I wrote back in 2012 when I was freelancing as an automotive journalist and here is the screen shot that I had.

I wonder if they are now saying that they are covered because they are not "scheduled" to be replaced in the first 4 years/50,000 miles.

[Hoopumpers]

My SA (who heads the local CCA chapter and tracks a lot) says they will be covered. I am a bit skeptical if they prove "excessive" use from track driving, but who knows. If covered, I would spec them without hesitation. Well, actually I would spec them regardless. They are awesome

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by GNALUZU

I'm having trouble getting onto the BMW website, but I thought I remembered that the CCBs were not covered by the scheduled maintenance. I dug up an old article that I wrote back in 2012 when I was freelancing as an automotive journalist and here is the screen shot that I had.

I wonder if they are now saying that they are covered because they are not "scheduled" to be replaced in the first 4 years/50,000 miles.

I think it's changed! I just looked at the BMWNA website. CCB is $9250 now and the description doesn't say anything about warranty coverage

[Netwon]

Originally Posted by GNALUZU

I'm having trouble getting onto the BMW website, but I thought I remembered that the CCBs were not covered by the scheduled maintenance. I dug up an old article that I wrote back in 2012 when I was freelancing as an automotive journalist and here is the screen shot that I had.

I wonder if they are now saying that they are covered because they are not "scheduled" to be replaced in the first 4 years/50,000 miles.

I remember this as well, but I guess things change! BMW must have found out they aren't as sensitive to damage as they thought!

[Stuartlogan77]

I believe their covered, but unless your tracking the car monthly getting them replaced within 4 years is unlikely.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by Stuartlogan77

I believe their covered, but unless your tracking the car monthly getting them replaced within 4 years is unlikely.

If you are an advanced level solo driver I'd give the CCB's 15- 20 track days tops before they are toast assuming they are = or better than Porsches. 600hp on a >4000lb car is a lot of heat.At my local track Roebling road I would expect to be braking from the limiter (159mph GPS every lap) thats going to be a lot of brake work. That being said not many if any will see that many track days. I'm planning on tracking mine once this August just on principle , but tire costs, track insurance , etc. will be prohibitive for regular use even discounting brake wear. I'll report back after on how she holds up, specifically outside tire edge wear, oil temps etc.
George

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by gmd2003

If you are an advanced level solo driver I'd give the CCB's 15- 20 track days tops before they are toast assuming they are = or better than Porsches. 600hp on a >4000lb car is a lot of heat.At my local track Roebling road I would expect to be braking from the limiter (159mph GPS every lap) thats going to be a lot of brake work. That being said not many if any will see that many track days. I'm planning on tracking mine once this August just on principle , but tire costs, track insurance , etc. will be prohibitive for regular use even discounting brake wear. I'll report back after on how she holds up, specifically outside tire edge wear, oil temps etc.
George

I read somewhere that all of the M cars at the M Performance school are using Carbon Ceramic Brakes now. They used to have to replace the brakes on the M cars once every 1-2days at the school with the steel rotors but now they only replace them once a month with the CCB's. I'd imagine that the cars at the M school get a lot more braking action than any one individual can put on their own personal M car in a month. This is what I heard anyway.

[black993s]

Tracked the M5 last week and kept DSC on during first session. The CCBs we smoking after 20 minutes from trying to keep the car stable. Won't get 15-20 track days out of the CCBs like that. MDM mode was better (brakes weren't smoking). Never turned DSC off completely.

[gmd2003]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I read somewhere that all of the M cars at the M Performance school are using Carbon Ceramic Brakes now. They used to have to replace the brakes on the M cars once every 1-2days at the school with the steel rotors but now they only replace them once a month with the CCB's. I'd imagine that the cars at the M school get a lot more braking action than any one individual can put on their own personal M car in a month. This is what I heard anyway.

Most people attending the M schools are very green , even though they over brake they are not carrying as much speed into the braking zones either . So replacing every month there vs 15 -20 days consisting of an hour of legitimate hard track time is consistent .

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by Stuartlogan77

I believe their covered, but unless your tracking the car monthly getting them replaced within 4 years is unlikely.

I'm guessing that this is exactly what BMW was thinking when they made the change. It will be interesting when people need replacements prior to 4 years to see how BMW handles it.

My guess is that it will come down to the relationship the person has with the service adviser and dealership.

[bobafettt]

Originally Posted by GNALUZU

I'm having trouble getting onto the BMW website, but I thought I remembered that the CCBs were not covered by the scheduled maintenance. I dug up an old article that I wrote back in 2012 when I was freelancing as an automotive journalist and here is the screen shot that I had.

I wonder if they are now saying that they are covered because they are not "scheduled" to be replaced in the first 4 years/50,000 miles.

This is what my CA told me (not covered) which is why i did not spec them

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by Netwon

I remember this as well, but I guess things change! BMW must have found out they aren't as sensitive to damage as they thought!

No it looks like they priced it into the option price.