M5POST
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   M5POST - BMW M5 Forum > F10 M5 Forum > BMW M5 (F10) General Forum

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      02-07-2014, 10:27 AM   #1
skypx
Veteran U.S. Army
skypx's Avatar
Germany
60
Rep
770
Posts

Drives: ///M
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

2014 BMW M5 Review - TEST/DRIVE

BIMMERPOST
     Featured on BIMMERPOST.com


I didn't realize Matt was the lazy type. He didn't take the time needed to learn about the car functions before coming to incorrect conclusions (DCT Start/Stop).
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 10:47 AM   #2
Punitive
Private First Class
147
Rep
179
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: MS

iTrader: (0)

I fail to understand how this guy is employed.
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 11:33 AM   #3
rjd598
Banned
United_States
1770
Rep
6,696
Posts

Drives: F30 340i
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: San Diego,CA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2016 BMW 340i  [0.00]
i was about to post this video here. overall got good feedback, but got annoyed at the things he messed up on. DCT not good? chuckled at that one. how did tech get a 2 from the overall score? nav didn't work for HIM...everyone has different experiences. it's not like any nav system is easy to work with you have to play around with it to get it right. f30 chassis if you are going to quote a spec like that just get it right. like i said overall i think it was a good review he just messed up on some minor things almost as if he had to be picky.
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 12:22 PM   #4
Boss330
Major General
Boss330's Avatar
No_Country
1712
Rep
5,108
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Earth

iTrader: (0)

Video is not working?

I just get: "This video is private"
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 04:24 PM   #5
TonySCV
Captain
509
Rep
709
Posts

Drives: '18 M2; '21 X6 M50i
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Las Vegas, NV

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss330 View Post
Video is not working?

I just get: "This video is private"
You aren't missing a thing.

My guess is DRIVE took it down to re-edit it because the reviewer's knowledge gaps reflected so poorly on the reviewer (and DRIVE). The tweet from DRIVE this morning with the video has been deleted.

Quote:
Originally Posted by Punitive View Post
I fail to understand how this guy is employed.
No clue. He lost me when he called it an F30.

I'm not a fan of Matt's reviews in general. They sound too much like what I'd hear one of my friends say about a car if I made them do a review of something they weren't that interested in.

That said, I realize reviewers sometimes get assigned cars to review with almost little or no prep time, but that means STAY AWAY from specifics because otherwise you spit out things like "F30" and the DCT being clunky or jerky around town which even reviewers critical of the M5 will tell you is complete nonsense.

All that coupled with contradicting himself in a number of places probably means that the video is getting an edit bay review or being scrapped altogether. DRIVE has a pretty good reputation they need to maintain. When I saw that video I thought that it wasn't at all up to the normal DRIVE standards. Visually yes. Commentary? No way. I could just imagine Chris Harris screaming "This guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about!"

Last edited by TonySCV; 02-07-2014 at 05:50 PM..
Appreciate 0
      02-07-2014, 04:51 PM   #6
skypx
Veteran U.S. Army
skypx's Avatar
Germany
60
Rep
770
Posts

Drives: ///M
Join Date: Nov 2011
Location: Germany

iTrader: (0)

Yea, they removed the video. How embarrassing.........

Name:  drive.jpg
Views: 13454
Size:  381.3 KB
Appreciate 0
      02-08-2014, 01:47 AM   #7
Punitive
Private First Class
147
Rep
179
Posts

Drives: F90 M5
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: MS

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by TonySCV View Post
You aren't missing a thing.

My guess is DRIVE took it down to re-edit it because the reviewer's knowledge gaps reflected so poorly on the reviewer (and DRIVE). The tweet from DRIVE this morning with the video has been deleted.



No clue. He lost me when he called it an F30.

I'm not a fan of Matt's reviews in general. They sound too much like what I'd hear one of my friends say about a car if I made them do a review of something they weren't that interested in.

That said, I realize reviewers sometimes get assigned cars to review with almost little or no prep time, but that means STAY AWAY from specifics because otherwise you spit out things like "F30" and the DCT being clunky or jerky around town which even reviewers critical of the M5 will tell you is complete nonsense.

All that coupled with contradicting himself in a number of places probably means that the video is getting an edit bay review or being scrapped altogether. DRIVE has a pretty good reputation they need to maintain. When I saw that video I thought that it wasn't at all up to the normal DRIVE standards. Visually yes. Commentary? No way. I could just imagine Chris Harris screaming "This guy doesn't have a clue what he's talking about!"
I agree, he shouldn't get a pass because he isn't familiar with the platform. He certainly saw the multiple reviews Harris did with the F10 car to use as a baseline. Any car reviewer would know the basics about the F10 M5 by now, can not be excused. All of his reviews are boring. I see in this video he is trying to "drift" a little, almost seems he is trying too hard to be cool. He will always be inferior to Chris Harris' as long as they are part of the Drive network.
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 10:12 AM   #8
TonySCV
Captain
509
Rep
709
Posts

Drives: '18 M2; '21 X6 M50i
Join Date: Feb 2013
Location: Las Vegas, NV

iTrader: (0)

The video has returned. "F30" has been edited out - sadly not much else has. The DCT start/stop clunky/jerky nonsense is still there.

Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 10:58 AM   #9
Gumbo
Enlisted Member
Gumbo's Avatar
0
Rep
31
Posts

Drives: Aggressively
Join Date: Jul 2013
Location: Dallas

iTrader: (0)

Anybody else notice how the overall score went from 69% (top of Average) to 80% (firmly in Highly Recommended)? I guess /Drive didn't want to deal with the flack of criticizing the F10 M5.
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 11:12 AM   #10
RPiM5
Major General
RPiM5's Avatar
2853
Rep
7,883
Posts

Drives: Mexico Blue F10 M5(Mika)
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunny San Diego

iTrader: (0)

The video doesn't seem to be working still. At least not on my end. Hmm...
__________________


Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 11:47 AM   #11
avlnch
Lieutenant Colonel
124
Rep
1,622
Posts

Drives: 2013 Individual M5
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: South FL

iTrader: (0)

This is why you don't watch or read these things. Drive the cars your thinking about and make up your own mind.

I am no praiser, but have to say I'm not sure what better system there is than iDrive. COMAND is not, and Audi is a big fail IMO.

Everyone (mapping providers) has the same issues until they are fixed by crowd sourcing data. For example my E60 M5 wanted me to take every off ramp and on ramp I passed on the NJTP. No issue in the F10 M5.
__________________
2013 BMW INDIVIDUAL ///M5 {Frozen Black/Amaro Brown/Amaro Brown Alcantara/White Contrast Stitching/Piano Black Trim}
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 12:03 PM   #12
utenigma
Lieutenant
United_States
162
Rep
573
Posts

Drives: 2013 F30 335i 8SA M-Adaptive
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: Dallas, Tx (Frisco)

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
Matt Farah reviews 2014 BMW M5 (Non-Competition Package) at Chuckwalla

Matt Farah reviews the 2014 BMW M5 (Non-Competition Package) at Chuckwalla Valley Raceway in California.

Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 01:15 PM   #13
Boss330
Major General
Boss330's Avatar
No_Country
1712
Rep
5,108
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Earth

iTrader: (0)

Although I much prefer Chris Harris on DRIVE, he wasn't actually being that critical about it. I mean, there was a few negatives that he pointed out. Things that some might like, some may not.

I am not a huge fan of the navi and know of more intuitive systems when it comes to putting in a destination. You kind of have to adapt to it and learn to like it. Just remember how Top Gear ridiculed iDrive when it first came... It takes a bit getting used to, but is SO great when you are used to it's functions. So, as a BMW owner we might not get his negativity, but to non-BMW owners I kinda get it.

His gripe with the DCT was with the start stop, not sure if he by that meant start stop traffic or the start stop function? If it was the latter, sure that is annoying...

He also didn't feel the M5 had a sound signature. There have been plenty of comments on sound here as well. Some like it, some prefer the AMG V8 sound. The M5 has a V8, but doesn't sound like a V8. It sounds more like a race car because of it's cross bank exhaust manifold. Good thing in my book

Apart from that he praised the car. Didn't feel it had become to heavy, was better than an AMG or Audi. Looked better than a Panamera. Still was the top car in it's class.

Basically a positive review, but with some (IMHO) minor negatives.

But, somehow I have problems taking him as a serious car journalist on the same level as a Chris Harris... I don't know if it's his appearance or the way he talks. But he comes across as not looking like a professional at his work.
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 01:29 PM   #14
dan99
Captain
137
Rep
621
Posts

Drives: 01' 330xi / 15' M235i
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: Neb

iTrader: (0)

I don't see anything wrong with this, I love matt farah; very down to earth and he seems to really like the m5.
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 02:06 PM   #15
DrewM5
Captain
53
Rep
739
Posts

Drives: SG E60 M5
Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: New York

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Boss330 View Post
His gripe with the DCT was with the start stop, not sure if he by that meant start stop traffic or the start stop function? If it was the latter, sure that is annoying....
I think it was the later and I note that it can be easily turned off. I turned it off in the delivery bay of the dealership and it has been that way since.
__________________
2014 M5 Competition|Space Grey|Black Merino Full Leather|Anthracite Trim|Executive package|LED Lighting Package|Drivers's Assit Package|B&O Sound System|Bel STiR Plus 9500ci|IND Side Markers and Side Vents|Exhaustmeister|HRE P101 Satin Charcoal/Michelin PSS (Summer)|601/Pirelli Sottozero Serie II (Winter)|Coded by V12
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 02:17 PM   #16
PatrickC23
Colonel
PatrickC23's Avatar
United_States
182
Rep
2,245
Posts

Drives: '16 991.1 911 GTS, '16 F85 X5M
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NNJ

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2013 BMW ///M5  [0.00]
Auto start-stop sucks, very happy our cars allow us to shut it off.
__________________
2016 991.1 911 Carrera GTS
2016 F85 X5M - Carbon Black/Mugello Red
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 02:44 PM   #17
Northern X5M
Captain
Northern X5M's Avatar
Canada
104
Rep
806
Posts

Drives: 2014 Tanzanite Blue M5
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Edmonton, Alberta, Canada

iTrader: (0)

Why are people still reviewing this car? Couple years late to the party.
__________________
2014 ///M5 CP Tanzanite Blue/Cohiba - 11.15 @ 128.8 & 1.84 60' (2150' DA) - BPM Tune - MSR Intake - SSP DCT - SS DPs & HFC Mid Pipes/X-Over - E Race Muffs - 19" MT DRs... On to a new home.
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 03:02 PM   #18
bimmer-boy
Lieutenant
bimmer-boy's Avatar
43
Rep
428
Posts

Drives: Bmw 330 e46 Vert, Bmw ind F10
Join Date: Nov 2012
Location: BG

iTrader: (0)

Estorial blue?

Not Monte Carlo blue no..
__________________
"If your not careful the media will have you loving the people doing the oppressing, and hating the people being oppressed"

Malcolm X
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 03:16 PM   #19
Boss330
Major General
Boss330's Avatar
No_Country
1712
Rep
5,108
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Earth

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern X5M View Post
Why are people still reviewing this car? Couple years late to the party.
Yeah, but that's why BMW do LCI isn't it

Still looks awesome though
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 03:30 PM   #20
DesertEagle50
Admiral General
DesertEagle50's Avatar
United_States
13
Rep
243
Posts

Drives: 2013 F10 M5 FB
Join Date: Jul 2011
Location: near Los Angeles, CA

iTrader: (2)

Garage List
2013 BMW M5 F10  [10.00]
2010 BMW M3 E92  [10.00]
Seriously, if you can't figure out how to input destinations in the iDrive you've got problems.
__________________
Those who sacrifice luxury for fuel economy deserve neither - Ben Franklin
Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 04:41 PM   #21
RPiM5
Major General
RPiM5's Avatar
2853
Rep
7,883
Posts

Drives: Mexico Blue F10 M5(Mika)
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Sunny San Diego

iTrader: (0)

Ok, so I finally just watched the video.

It's funny because I've met Matt Farrah before and have even gone on rally's with him. For example, I was on the rally with him when he drove the F12 M6 Vert to Vegas. He had nothing but good things to say about that car. This was in the summer of 2012, when the F10 M5's weren't even available in the U.S. yet. He's a pretty knowledgeable guy when it comes to high performance cars. I'm not entirely sure, that we he's saying in the video directly corresponds to what he really believes.

So I find it confusing when he talks about the iDrive and the start/stop of the DCT, which I assume he means the A.S.S. system. I did like what he was saying about the F10 M5 being more of a sleeper as compared to the F06 M6 Gran Coupe.

Overall, I found the videography and the music in the video the most appealing to me and not what he actually had to say about the car. You have to admit, they got some very beautiful shots of the M5 on the track on the warm sunny Californian day. Makes me miss SoCal even more. The video also makes me want to dump my current Triple Black M5 and get a Monte Carlo blue instead. Lol!

In the end, I've always enjoyed Matt and his Drive videos, but unfortunately, I think that if he had our good friend pkilla review the car instead, it might have been better for this one time.
__________________


Appreciate 0
      02-10-2014, 04:51 PM   #22
Mperial
Second Lieutenant
Mperial's Avatar
United_States
49
Rep
280
Posts

Drives: 2016 M3, 2017 X1
Join Date: Oct 2012
Location: NYC

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Northern X5M View Post
Why are people still reviewing this car? Couple years late to the party.
And a rather irrelevant review since Chris Harris reviewed this platform back in 2012 right on the heels of the outgoing E60. I've never been overly impressed with his ability to review cars; many of his reviews come off as an attempt at humor. At least he has fun and is mildly entertaining, though juvenile. By comparison, Jonny Lieberman makes Matt look polished and objective. Both make me question the necessary criteria required to review cars online.
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 05:55 AM.




m5post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST