10-24-2013, 01:26 PM | #89 |
Captain
634
Rep 959
Posts
Drives: 08' M5, '09 335i, '18 M3 MT
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Munich and Los Angeles (O.C.)
|
I have driven so many AMG's (however not the very latest E63 AMG facelift) and all I gotta say is: AMG LOL.
__________________
Verde Mantis Green M3 F80 Manual - Motor Journalist from Germany and BMW Genius |
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 01:32 PM | #90 |
Lieutenant Colonel
56
Rep 1,962
Posts |
+1.. AMG's move to AWD was incredibly smart. The light feeling they are talking about sounds like AMG has taken the time to create their version of torque vectoring. The AMG looks more grown up, cheaper fully loaded than the m5, and has supercar territory straight line speed. One white on red E63 AMG S for me please...
__________________
Peanut Butter Chunky
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 01:37 PM | #91 | |
Captain
45
Rep 645
Posts |
Quote:
http://media.caranddriver.com/files/...-e63-amg-1.pdf So it looks like it gained almost 300lbs in the process. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 01:42 PM | #92 | |
Lieutenant General
19490
Rep 10,183
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 02:06 PM | #93 |
Captain
45
Rep 645
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 02:21 PM | #95 | ||
Brigadier General
672
Rep 4,959
Posts |
Quote:
Quote:
As I mentioned earlier, I've driven the various E9X M3 variants multiple times over the years. When my F30 M Sport 335i wasn't living up to my expectations (despite pouring absurd amounts of money into M Performance products), I went car shopping. I test drove an E92 M3 (I had driven the E92 M3 at least 5 times prior to this test drive) and was very impressed. I then drove a friend's 2012 (i.e., LCI) C63 (my only prior seat time in a C63 was way back in 2009 for a dealer test drive). After that drive, I immediately called my local MB dealer to either order a '13 model or snag one that was unaccounted for at the port in Baltimore. It ticked all the same boxes for me as the M3 but exceeded the M3 in terms of power delivery and fun factor. I also much preferred the C63's interior but that preference is subjective. When the lease on my '13 C63 is up I will drive the new F80 M3/M4 and the new C63. The badge won't make my decision; the drive will. That's how good AMG has become, in my humble opinion. There once was a time where AMG made merely straight-line monsters and the boys at the M division made complete, well-rounded cars. Well, now they both churn out excellent performance road cars and I'd be foolish and myopic to not consider the offerings from both companies.
__________________
Current: '23 G20 M Sport 330i
Current: '20 X253 GLC300 SUV Gone: '20 W205 C43 Sedan Gone: '18 W205 C43 Sedan Gone: '13 W204 C63 Sedan |
||
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 02:53 PM | #96 | |
Lieutenant General
19490
Rep 10,183
Posts |
Quote:
I agree, the car is impressive. Check out this run Tom- a non S but surely tuned?
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 02:55 PM | #97 |
Captain
151
Rep 842
Posts |
M5 all day everyday, why? Because it was harder to get round the fig 8 without spinning.
These are street cars, It's how you get there, not how fast you get there. Having said that, the AWD might make the AMG the choice for some people just because it's AWD, fair enough, but it is people chasing the numbers offered by different drivetrains that lead BMW Down the path of FWD cars too. Best not forget that. |
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 03:17 PM | #98 |
Major
92
Rep 1,465
Posts |
If the M5 was tested with Ceramic Brakes and the AMG no ceramics and the stop distance was "virtually" the same then that's really interesting. If the AMG had ceramics it would have stopped even shorter.
__________________
11 E92 M3 DCT Jerez Black ZCP...Eisenmann, Dinan, Fabspeed, IND, LUX
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 03:23 PM | #99 | |
Captain
45
Rep 645
Posts |
Quote:
Also, the carbon ceramic rotors are much lighter than steel ones. On the M5 and M6 they lighten each corner by 10+lbs. This is especially helpful as it is a reduction in the rotational mass and unsprung weight. |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 03:31 PM | #100 | |
Major
85
Rep 1,489
Posts |
Quote:
__________________
Current: '16 GT4
Past ///Ms: '13 F10 M5, Alpine Weiss III/Sakhir Orange Full '10 E60 M5, Space Gray/Black |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 03:59 PM | #101 |
Banned
91
Rep 833
Posts |
Anytime BMW loses anything you can count on the fanboys coming out to insult the reviewers and just look stupid and like spoiled children. Newsflash, there will always be a better car out there than the one you currently drive. Stop being so insecure and be happy with the car you have. AMG makes amazing cars, thats a fact.
Also LOL at the guy with a 335i saying "AMG LOL". |
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 04:13 PM | #102 |
New Member
5
Rep 24
Posts |
I'm a BMW guy as I currently drive one and love it, but you gotta give credit where it's due. To me the merc front end looks better, faster car, and is cheaper based on this comparo.
The engine will blow people's minds and will kill some supercars as well... E63 is a monster and I'd love to own one.
__________________
2008 BMW 135i: COBB, M-Sport, Toyo T1 Sport - 255/18, 225/18, M Mats, Performance Pedals, Performance Shifter Boot & Knob, Performance Handbrake, Performance Drilled/Slotted Rotors, K&N Drop-In...
Dogoni |
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 04:14 PM | #103 |
Private First Class
9
Rep 105
Posts |
I wouldn't give up my m5 for a E63... Regardless of any review...
__________________
15 M5 Alpine/Sakhir
14 M5 Alpine/Sakhir 13 F-350 Dually Platinuim 87 735i 09 G37S Pearl White/Red 600hp stroker supercharged |
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 04:17 PM | #104 | |
Brigadier General
672
Rep 4,959
Posts |
Quote:
Why would you? The F10 M5 is a fantastic car.
__________________
Current: '23 G20 M Sport 330i
Current: '20 X253 GLC300 SUV Gone: '20 W205 C43 Sedan Gone: '18 W205 C43 Sedan Gone: '13 W204 C63 Sedan |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 05:01 PM | #106 |
Banned
91
Rep 833
Posts |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 05:17 PM | #107 | |
Lieutenant Colonel
148
Rep 1,885
Posts |
Quote:
the guy on video said: 240km/h
__________________
'11 E92 M3 ZCP SG 6MT Tech Sound USB Heat Cloth Aluminium Sunshade
http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=422151 |
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 05:22 PM | #108 |
.
1233
Rep 1,919
Posts
Drives: 22 M8C Coupe, 21 X5MC
Join Date: Mar 2012
Location: Atlanta
|
WOW!! As impressive as that was, I am a chicken sh!t when it comes down to tuning $100K plus cars. I don't know if merc has a tuner similar to Dinan.
__________________
Previous
21 X5M MBB, 20 Evora GT, 20 C63S Coupe,19 X5 50i, 18 Giulia QV, 18 M5, 17 Evora 400, 18 LX570, 17 GT350,18 M4 Comp,17 R8 V10 ,17 M3 Comp,17 GT350,16 Escalade Plat ESV, 16 570S,16 911 GTS,15 M5, 15 LX570, 13 M5,13 Viper,14 Cayman S,13 M3,13 S4,10 RX8,12 A4,10 G37, 04 Mini Cooper S, 08 Scion TC, 06 Altima V6, 05 Altima, 01 Altima, 00 Altima, 94 Explorer, 92 Toyota Pickup, 98 Altima |
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 05:29 PM | #109 |
Private First Class
5
Rep 108
Posts |
TOP END. Video proves what you saw on the MT times. F10 has higher traps so from roll AMG will get the lead but eventually F10 will pass. They are both great cars and just depends on what one is looking for.
__________________
"I am ripper, tearer, slasher, gouger. I am the teeth in the darkness! The talons in the night! Mine is strength! And lust! And power! "
|
Appreciate
0
|
10-24-2013, 05:53 PM | #110 |
Lieutenant General
19490
Rep 10,183
Posts |
Dinan....... no not really- no tuner that puts their foot in the manufacturer shoes for the warranty per se on the Benz side. But there are a ton of tuners that are modding the M157TT engine with strong success with the likes of Renntech, Kleemann, etc. and they step up if there are issues from the feedback Ive seen.
__________________
2024 BMW M3 CS Frozen Solid White
2023 BMW M8 Coupe Competition Alpine White 2022 Porsche Carrera GTS Coupe Shark Blue 2020 Audi R8 V10 Performance Suzuka Gray 2012 Mercedes Benz C63 AMG Black Series Obsidian Black |
Appreciate
0
|
Bookmarks |
|
|