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      03-21-2014, 09:29 AM   #23
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Christ these things are tanking in value lol... I knew I shoulda dumped it when I was tired of it at 3000 for an r8.
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      03-21-2014, 09:34 AM   #24
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Christ these things are tanking in value lol... I knew I shoulda dumped it when I was tired of it at 3000 for an r8.
Hey if you can't afford the depreciation you shouldn't be buying high end cars. There is nothing unusual about the depreciation on the M5. From what I can tell it fares much better than the Panamera Turbo.

BTW as a tip - the Lexus RC-F will probably hold its value better than these other cars. Perhaps you should switch to one of those.
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      03-21-2014, 09:50 AM   #25
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Hey if you can't afford the depreciation you shouldn't be buying high end cars. There is nothing unusual about the depreciation on the M5. From what I can tell it fares much better than the Panamera Turbo.

BTW as a tip - the Lexus RC-F will probably hold its value better than these other cars. Perhaps you should switch to one of those.
Well the Panamera turbo is almost 30k+ more if you build it right lol Also unless you just want that Porsche name neither the turbo or S variant are worth that premium... I was severely disappointed in both...

And I can afford it otherwise I wouldn't throw 15k on a m3 in 4 months and 13k on this car in 5 months for just random fun driving ... I just like to go in with a reasonable amount to lose each car and I was more thinking in the 20s but now I'm pretty sure I'll be in the 30s. Besides I see too many of these cars to begin with something I also wasn't anticipating, but that might be the area I live in.

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Its gotta be off the lot i spent weeks on talking to dealers off the east coast and pretty much all on the same page
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Its gotta be off the lot i spent weeks on talking to dealers off the east coast and pretty much all on the same page
My local dealer has a well optioned one for 99 lol

http://www.bmwrockville.com/new/BMW/...528b5da1bb.htm

When someone told me I thought for sure barebones but its got Exec, DAP, B&O, wheels, LED lol
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Its gotta be off the lot i spent weeks on talking to dealers off the east coast and pretty much all on the same page
My local dealer has a well optioned one for 99 lol

http://www.bmwrockville.com/new/BMW/...528b5da1bb.htm

When someone told me I thought for sure barebones but its got Exec, DAP, B&O, wheels, LED lol
I seen that one too bad its not my color
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I have a friend who recently purchased a similarly equipped (same color exterior and interior, no LED's, full Merino, 6MT.....MSRP $107,695) new 2013 M5 for $80K.
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I have a friend who recently purchased a similarly equipped (same color exterior and interior, no LED's, full Merino, 6MT.....MSRP $107,695) new 2013 M5 for $80K.
U said the magic word "2013" huge difference
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U said the magic word "2013" huge difference
yep....big difference in the car and big difference in the price.

I'm not sure which is the better value.
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U said the magic word "2013" huge difference
yep....big difference in the car and big difference in the price.

I'm not sure which is the better value.
I think led make a huge diference not havin it
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yep....big difference in the car and big difference in the price.

I'm not sure which is the better value.
Yeah the navigation upgrade alone in my opinion is worth 10k, but thats just me. Steering wheel, etc. its worth the premium.
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I have a friend who recently purchased a similarly equipped (same color exterior and interior, no LED's, full Merino, 6MT.....MSRP $107,695) new 2013 M5 for $80K.
6MT cars tank in value because most people want auto.
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      03-21-2014, 01:01 PM   #35
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6MT cars tank in value because most people want auto.
I agree. Seller of 6MT needs to get lucky and find the guy who's looking for 6MT.
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      03-21-2014, 02:29 PM   #36
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6MT cars tank in value because most people want auto.
DCT is too good anyway lol
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      03-23-2014, 09:19 PM   #37
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I personally think ot is just an OK deal
And again it can be called good to very good only of OP would build the exact same car if he had to do it all over again, because let's suppose he doesn't care for NVision then add this on top of the sale price as he doesn't care for it in first place and up above all CCB as this is 8k option so this has to be something he wants for sure and would never take the car without which in other words mean he is gonna track it a lot!! Then it is a good deal -

My 2 cents
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      03-23-2014, 10:58 PM   #38
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MSRP is 133,775. It's an individual color, fully loaded with every option, ceramics, etc.

Negotiated price of 121,830, which is $100 under invoice plus another $1500 of BMW incentives.

Then on top of that throw $800 for tags and registration. That's about it, aside from the ridiculous CA tax.
What makes you think this is invoice? This price is absolutely a good deal on this car.
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What makes you think this is invoice? This price is absolutely a good deal on this car.
Invoice on the M5 is usually around 92-93% of the MSRP price. When you do the math, invoice minus 1500 which is what everyone should be getting these days makes around 121900. So him getting 121830 is inline with the invoice minus 100 number.

IMO, no dealer will sell the car below invoice at a loss unless they are able to hit you back from some other place, such as:

- Bad trade
- Bad MF or Finance APR
- Cap cost reduction/down payment
- Marked up Acquisition fee or Doc fee
- Tire & Wheel insurance or any other similar packages you may buy

It makes no sense to sell a 130k car at a loss, unless there is some other incentive going on. You also have to remember each car sitting in dealer's lot has a floor planning cost, which is the cost of keeping the car at the dealership.

One last thing : a lot of these "crazy" deals are for cars that are sitting in the lots, test driven by 50 people possibly, and has been sitting in the lot for weeks/months hooked up to a battery charger. Now if you can get the same deal on a customer order car, that is a "decent" deal. I would never buy any M car off the lot.
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so when these dealers are going below invoice on the sale of cars, how are they making money?
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so when these dealers are going below invoice on the sale of cars, how are they making money?
When they sell the normal series cars at high prices and sucker some people into buying them. They can cut some of the loss on the higher end cars, besides they make money from other areas as well.

Another thing if a person is worried about a car losing it value the best way to slow it down is doing a ED or Military sales.
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      03-24-2014, 03:57 PM   #42
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also… for any car dealership… their REAL profit center is the Service side of the house.
The profit margin on new car sales is single digits. I believe the Service side can get into double-digits.
Someone else here may have more insight…?
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so when these dealers are going below invoice on the sale of cars, how are they making money?
When they go below invoice they start eating into their holdback. After their flooring costs and sales commissions they may be losing money in this situation, especially on the cars that have been in inventory awhile.
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When they go below invoice they start eating into their holdback. After their flooring costs and sales commissions they may be losing money in this situation, especially on the cars that have been in inventory awhile.
is there anyways to calculate what the holdback is so i know what the best deal possible is going forward when i buy another car in the next year or so
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