Jumped the Shark?

[Mbdurham17]

Guys maybe it's just me but I used to really enjoy this forum and looked forward to reading it every day to get some great information now days it seems every post is irrelevant nothing but M5/M6 vs (M3/M4 getting so old as well as Porsche)

Am I getting tired of my car or just this forum??

[URBAN LEGEND]

Both.

[Mbdurham17]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Both.

Lol I guess so but I still enjoy every time I push the start button or accelerate ....seems like some of the many enjoyable members don't post much anymore or have been banned :

[URBAN LEGEND]

Really not much to discuss until someone can go in the ECU and change parameters. Right now it's about this exhaust or which grilles to get...

[RPiM5]

Unfortunately I agree with Urban Legend. Things have settled down on this side of the forum. The F10 M5 and F12/F13 M6 are approaching three years old now and the LCI already came out over a year ago. So there is pretty much nothing new for this community. Even the updates to the 2015 F10 M5 and M6 are relatively minor. There haven't been very many deliveries of new 2015 M5's and M6's this month either. The main focus has been on the F80/F82 M3/M4 since it was released as a brand new ///M Model last month. So we are really going through a lull in the M5 community right now and unfortunately the lull just began. I'd say it pretty much began as soon as the new M3 and M4 hit the streets. The last major thing for the M5 was the 30-Year Edition and those don't get delivered until the fall.

I made a comment on another section of the forum that this is what we have to look forward to for the next 4+ years, this debating between the two classes of M cars, and to me it's already gotten old.

One thing that also doesn't help is that it's been nearly 3 years since the F10 M5 was released and the tuning community has not been able to crack the encryption fully on the S63tu, so we are still not seeing 1,000hp S63tu engines with stock turbos, and probably never will.

If you are a person that switches cars regularly, now doesn't seem to be good time to buy a new F10 M5 and try to do something new, because everything has pretty much been done already. So I'm afraid the best we will have from now on are threads about new kinds of wheels being fitted to M5's and M6's.

At least with the old E60 M5 community, that community has tuners who makes superchargers and stroker engines and just before the F10 M5 came out, it was relatively unknown how a supercharged V10 would perform, so it kept things new and exciting for a long time. When I was considering keeping or selling my old E60 M5 and getting the new F10 M5, one of the reasons why I wanted to keep it, was to supercharge it. We don't have that option with the F10 M5. Instead, all we can really do is hope that someone out there can full crack the encryption and offer a real tune that produces some serious power gains, but hope is the key word there.

The next generation Gxx M5 will be on the streets around the fall of 2018 (that's my prediction anyways) as a 2019 model year, so that's still over 5 years away. In the mean time, the next generation X5M, X6M, and BMW M2 will be ///M Divisions next big thing and then the next 5-Series will come out as a 2016 model year and hit the streets in 2015, which is only right around the corner, so we'll get to see what the next M5 will potentially look like. Also there's a good chance that the engine used in the next generation X5M/X6M will be the one that is used in the next M5 as well (will most likely be another Twin Turbo V8).

I almost forgot one more point. I'd say that within the next year or so, we will start to see M5's around the world cross the 50,000 mile threshold and therefore we can look forward to threads about what goes wrong with peoples M5's in the future.

[Mbdurham17]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Unfortunately I agree with Urban Legend. Things have settled down on this side of the forum. The F10 M5 and F12/F13 M6 are approaching three years old now and the LCI already came out over a year ago. So there is pretty much nothing new for this community. Even the updates to the 2015 F10 M5 and M6 are relatively minor. There haven't been very many deliveries of new 2015 M5's and M6's this month either. The main focus has been on the F80/F82 M3/M4 since it was released as a brand new ///M Model last month. So we are really going through a lull in the M5 community right now and unfortunately the lull just began. I'd say it pretty much began as soon as the new M3 and M4 hit the streets. The last major thing for the M5 was the 30-Year Edition and those don't get delivered until the fall.

I made a comment on another section of the forum that this is what we have to look forward to for the next 4+ years, this debating between the two classes of M cars, and to me it's already gotten old.

One thing that also doesn't help is that it's been nearly 3 years since the F10 M5 was released and the tuning community has not been able to crack the encryption fully on the S63tu, so we are still not seeing 1,000hp S63tu engines with stock turbos, and probably never will.

If you are a person that switches cars regularly, now doesn't seem to be good time to buy a new F10 M5 and try to do something new, because everything has pretty much been done already. So I'm afraid the best we will have from now on are threads about new kinds of wheels being fitted to M5's and M6's.

At least with the old E60 M5 community, that community has tuners who makes superchargers and stroker engines and just before the F10 M5 came out, it was relatively unknown how a supercharged V10 would perform, so it kept things new and exciting for a long time. When I was considering keeping or selling my old E60 M5 and getting the new F10 M5, one of the reasons why I wanted to keep it, was to supercharge it. We don't have that option with the F10 M5. Instead, all we can really do is hope that someone out there can full crack the encryption and offer a real tune that produces some serious power gains, but hope is the key word there.

The next generation Gxx M5 will be on the streets around the fall of 2018 (that's my prediction anyways), so that's still over 5 years away. In the mean time, the next generation X5M, X6M, and BMW M2 will be ///M Divisions next big thing and then the next 5-Series will come out as a 2016 model year and hit the streets in 2015, which is only right around the corner, so we'll get to see what the next M5 will potentially look like. Also there's a good chance that the engine used in the next generation X5M/X6M will be the one that is used in the next M5 as well (will most likely be another Twin Turbo V8).

I almost forgot one more point. I'd say that within the next year or so, we will start to see M5's around the world cross the 50,000 mile threshold and therefore we can look forward to threads about what goes wrong with peoples M5's in the future.

Yep I guess you are 100% correct although I wouldn't do any crazy mods to mine I enjoy reading about other crazy fuckers lol

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Yep I guess you are 100% correct although I wouldn't do any crazy mods to mine I enjoy reading about other crazy fuckers lol

One more thing, maybe the F10 M5 and F13 M6 are suffering from what I heard what one reviewer called, the perfect car syndrome. That is, there is simply isn't enough wrong with the F10 M5 to make it interesting anymore. With the E60 M5, there was all kinds of stuff, from clunky SMG transmissions, to Dinan Differentials, to Vanos pumps going bad, to extremely poor fuel consumption, etc, etc. We never see threads of anybody loving or complaining about the power close trunk on the F10 M5. You know what I mean?

The four biggest faults of the F10 M5 are that it's:

- It's too quiet on the inside
- It's too heavy
- To some, it's too big
- Lack of traction

It's definitely not lacking for performance, not even in bone stock form. Weight reduction and efficiency will be the main focus of the next Gxx M5.

Also, I'll be at the Charleston, SC Cars and Coffee this Saturday with my crazy M5. Maybe you'll get to see something new then. Lol!

[johntomferg]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

... now days it seems every post is irrelevant nothing but M5/M6 vs (M3/M4 getting so old as well as Porsche)

Don't forget about "oil consumption" threads. This forum group loves an oil consumption thread!

I like to live vicariously through others as well, so stopping by to see what the 'new thing' is has been nice, but it has felt very thin lately. Like the rest have already said, waiting for that next big thing for the M5.

[Stash21]

Don't forget the posts about oil consumption. I always look forward to those.

[greentrbo95gst]

I have to agree with the OP and RPIM5. It's been very boring and threads with "what's your gas mileage" "car burning oil" "what color should I get" "M3/4 vs M5" got boring pretty fast.
I am also on the f15 x5 forum and find it a lot more useful and entertaining than this section here.

[Northern X5M]

Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

I have to agree with the OP and RPIM5. It's been very boring and threads with "what's your gas mileage" "car burning oil" "what color should I get" "M3/4 vs M5" got boring pretty fast.
I am also on the f15 x5 forum and find it a lot more useful and entertaining than this section here.

At least we have the run to 10 seconds and pushing the limits of the BMS tune to keep things exciting. I want that friggin F Coupe so bad, I think that car will be a modders dream.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Northern X5M

At least we have the run to 10 seconds and pushing the limits of the BMS tune to keep things exciting. I want that friggin F Coupe so bad, I think that car will be a modders dream.

I got mine about a week ago (F Type R) and did a tune gaining about 40 whp and 40 wtq... pulley is next to change the boost further with a re tune but then it will take headers to tap out more power. But the car out of the box is excellent for me: speed, handling, and sound. While some of the interior amenities are slightly dated that doesn't bother me one bit.

Lowering springs today or tomorrow:

[Mbdurham17]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I got mine about a week ago (F Type R) and did a tune gaining about 40 whp and 40 wtq... pulley is next to change the boost further with a re tune but then it will take headers to tap out more power. But the car out of the box is excellent for me: speed, handling, and sound. While some of the interior amenities are slightly dated that doesn't bother me one bit.

Lowering springs today or tomorrow:

Yes that is beautiful congrats!!

[Mbdurham17]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

One more thing, maybe the F10 M5 and F13 M6 are suffering from what I heard what one reviewer called, the perfect car syndrome. That is, there is simply isn't enough wrong with the F10 M5 to make it interesting anymore. With the E60 M5, there was all kinds of stuff, from clunky SMG transmissions, to Dinan Differentials, to Vanos pumps going bad, to extremely poor fuel consumption, etc, etc. We never see threads of anybody loving or complaining about the power close trunk on the F10 M5. You know what I mean?

The four biggest faults of the F10 M5 are that it's:

- It's too quiet on the inside
- It's too heavy
- To some, it's too big
- Lack of traction

It's definitely not lacking for performance, not even in bone stock form. Weight reduction and efficiency will be the main focus of the next Gxx M5.

Also, I'll be at the Charleston, SC Cars and Coffee this Saturday with my crazy M5. Maybe you'll get to see something new then. Lol!

Would love to if I was still in Charleston. I moved to Atlanta a few weeks ago. I did go several times while I was living there.

[emmfive]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I got mine about a week ago (F Type R) and did a tune gaining about 40 whp and 40 wtq... pulley is next to change the boost further with a re tune but then it will take headers to tap out more power. But the car out of the box is excellent for me: speed, handling, and sound. While some of the interior amenities are slightly dated that doesn't bother me one bit.

Looks great in that color combo.

[M6-Coupe]

@Mbdurham17
Dud, I think you have to drive your car to come here in California.
Then we can meet and do some races following by starting a thread...M5 vs M6 ... how about this???

[Mbdurham17]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

@Mbdurham17
Dud, I think you have to drive your car to come here in California.
Then we can meet and do some races following by starting a thread...M5 vs M6 ... how about this???

Lol maybe so!!! Good to have you back!

[gblansten]

Agree with the sentiment in this thread. Also with the cost of the M5/6 and sales numbers there just will not be a horde of people to even come to this forum.

[soooma]

Baby blasphemers?!
LOL

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Mbdurham17

Lol maybe so!!! Good to have you back!

Thanks bro!

[Schnell_1]

I respect the metaphor, but I'm not sure the forum could ever be THIS bad ...

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I got mine about a week ago (F Type R) and did a tune gaining about 40 whp and 40 wtq... pulley is next to change the boost further with a re tune but then it will take headers to tap out more power. But the car out of the box is excellent for me: speed, handling, and sound. While some of the interior amenities are slightly dated that doesn't bother me one bit.

Lowering springs today or tomorrow:

Car looks fantastic! Congrats Vic