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      04-05-2012, 11:29 PM   #67
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No no, what I'm saying is that I don't think the news is all that great about the price. It went up 5k, it should have stayed the same IMO or maybe 1k more.
Assuming for a moment there will not be any gas guzzler tax ($3K in the E60 M5), the difference is really $2K between old and new M5, very reasonable IMO. Official MPG should be out soon, but preliminarily it looks like the F10 will sneak under the GGT.
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I would love to order one. Just not there yet.
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Can we expect European Delivery pricing as well, or will it be like the 1M with no ED discount?
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Can we expect European Delivery pricing as well, or will it be like the 1M with no ED discount?
Yes, there will be ED pricing on the M5.

And the 1M had an ED discount, I personally got it, as did many other people. The ones that didn't were dealing either with scummy dealers, or were very late in the game (weren't on the list, or had no deposit, and they still dealt with bad dealers).

Bottom line is, BMW offers ED discount. It sadly resides with the dealer whether the dealership 'extends' it. Any dealership with good standing and concerned about their image and prolonged customer loyalty will be doing ED MSRP.
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Yes, there will be ED pricing on the M5.

And the 1M had an ED discount, I personally got it, as did many other people. The ones that didn't were dealing either with scummy dealers, or were very late in the game (weren't on the list, or had no deposit, and they still dealt with bad dealers).

Bottom line is, BMW offers ED discount. It sadly resides with the dealer whether the dealership 'extends' it. Any dealership with good standing and concerned about their image and prolonged customer loyalty will be doing ED MSRP.
I'm very interested where ED invoice and ED MSRP will land. hopefully if it falls near most of the other 90k car offerings from BMW. I may just have to upgrade to the M5
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ED will be @7%
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      04-07-2012, 07:26 AM   #73
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Yes, there will be ED pricing on the M5.

And the 1M had an ED discount, I personally got it, as did many other people. The ones that didn't were dealing either with scummy dealers, or were very late in the game (weren't on the list, or had no deposit, and they still dealt with bad dealers).

Bottom line is, BMW offers ED discount. It sadly resides with the dealer whether the dealership 'extends' it. Any dealership with good standing and concerned about their image and prolonged customer loyalty will be doing ED MSRP.
Awesome, thanks.
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Yes, there will be ED pricing on the M5.

And the 1M had an ED discount, I personally got it, as did many other people. The ones that didn't were dealing either with scummy dealers, or were very late in the game (weren't on the list, or had no deposit, and they still dealt with bad dealers).

Bottom line is, BMW offers ED discount. It sadly resides with the dealer whether the dealership 'extends' it. Any dealership with good standing and concerned about their image and prolonged customer loyalty will be doing ED MSRP.
It would be nice to get some feedback from Canadian customers who have ordered the M5 for ED and could confirm that they got the ED discount or is that discount only for U.S. customers?
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      04-07-2012, 07:35 PM   #75
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It would be nice to get some feedback from Canadian customers who have ordered the M5 for ED and could confirm that they got the ED discount or is that discount only for U.S. customers?
No ED discounts in Canada. We are a very small market so you pay the same price+insurance and then all needs to be paid up prior to pickup.

ED is relatively shitty in Canada compared to the US.
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And just think, in 4 years we will be able to buy a 25,000 mile used M5 for $55,000! I think I'll get two.
Just in time for the repair bills. You can use the second one for parts.
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LOL you honestly believe that? It is impossible for that statement to be true. There are already two examples of the N63 and S63 to draw a conclusion from.
I guess we'll have to wait and see. C&D says 17 city. German engineer quoted in this forum says he drove a long distance on the highway in a manual transmission car and with an average speed of 77 mph got 24 mpg. That is 9.5l/100 km which is better than the 550 xdrive and better than the 22 mpg C&D is reporting. Of course, if you are hitting launch mode every day, the mileage will suffer. In any event it is beter the the 11 mpg city the E60 M5 was rated at.

As to the N63/S63 fuel economy, BMW engineers have been quoted as saying the there are some design changes in the M5 engine that will filter down to the 550i and other engines next year which will help with fuel economy. The N/S 63 engines don't hae the technology yet.

In any event, I'd pick a stripped (but still very well equipped M5 before I'd get a loaded 550. I'm not really into soft close doors and can live without dash leather on the M5.

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ED will be @7%
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And there is about 9% ED MSRP to ED Invoice room (for a dealer that is willing to budge that is).
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You can get a 535i or entry level X5 for that price here LOL.
Probably couldn't even get a 335i for that price in some countries!
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      04-09-2012, 10:14 PM   #80
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ED will be @7%
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And there is about 9% ED MSRP to ED Invoice room (for a dealer that is willing to budge that is).
Is that for real? I was curious about what ED invoice would be. How do you know the difference?
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ED will be @7%
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And there is about 9% ED MSRP to ED Invoice room (for a dealer that is willing to budge that is).
Is that for real? I was curious about what ED invoice would be. How do you know the difference?
7% has traditionally been the ED discount for recent models.
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Sorry, the part I was really wondering about was this: "And there is about 9% ED MSRP to ED Invoice room (for a dealer that is willing to budge that is)."

Is this for real?
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While the discount may be 7%, expect to wait for the privilege (unless you're already on a list).

People have been on lists for years. Don't expect to walk into a dealership 2 weeks before launch, instantly be first on the list, and on top of that get a car for 7% below MSRP.

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While the discount may be 7%, expect to wait for the privilege (unless you're already on a list).

People have been on lists for years. Don't expect to walk into a dealership 2 weeks before launch, instantly be first on the list, and on top of that get a car for 7% below MSRP.

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Definitely! I got on the list early last year. One of my dealers has already confirmed I have his #1 Allocation and he is one of the top M Sales guys in the country so I am banking on him pulling through!

I'm just trying to understand what the difference in price is between the ED MSRP and ED Invoice?
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7% has traditionally been the ED discount for recent models.
Guys, re-read my post(s). I am talking about two distinct things:

1. ED discount (7%)
2. MSRP vs Invoice Margins. (~9% or thereabouts)

There are 4 different 'prices', which are made public information, so you will know them all soon.

US MSRP (what was released during NYIAS)
ED MSRP (TBD but should be around 7% less than US MSRP)
US Invoice (about 9% below US MSRP)
ED Invoice (about 9% below ED MSRP)

So if you are doing ED delivery, dealer 'cost' is technically ED Invoice. So difference b/w US MSRP and ED Invoice is give or take 16% (7+9). THEORETICALLY, that is your 'wiggle' room as a buyer. But don't expect miracles in the first few months of production...
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7% has traditionally been the ED discount for recent models.
Guys, re-read my post(s). I am talking about two distinct things:

1. ED discount (7%)
2. MSRP vs Invoice Margins. (~9% or thereabouts)

There are 4 different 'prices', which are made public information, so you will know them all soon.

US MSRP (what was released during NYIAS)
ED MSRP (TBD but should be around 7% less than US MSRP)
US Invoice (about 9% below US MSRP)
ED Invoice (about 9% below ED MSRP)

So if you are doing ED delivery, dealer 'cost' is technically ED Invoice. So difference b/w US MSRP and ED Invoice is give or take 16% (7+9). THEORETICALLY, that is your 'wiggle' room as a buyer. But don't expect miracles in the first few months of production...
Nice summary.
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one of the only new cars I can think of (bmw or otherwise) that's actually worth the new price. Can't wait to see/drive one of these.
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Has anybody checked if it is really possible to do a true ED for an M5? I have done many EDs but I was told the M5 will initially come from dealer allocation so there is no ED pricing at this point (FYI discounted EDs do not come from dealer allocation). Does anybody else have different real information or is it speculation?

This was the case too in 2008 for an M3. You could still do European delivery but it was coming from dealer allocation - it changed about a year later.
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