Spotted Again: US Spec F10 M5 with Manual Transmission

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by P-TownM3

DCT is so far from an automatic (even a "better" automatic). Foot (human) operated clutches will become obsolete.

I understand if you prefer to row gears...as I did in every car prior to my M3....but the DCT is and will always be the superior gearbox, in every aspect.

That depends on how you define superior. DCT will never be more fun or engaging than a traditional manual.

[malter2.0]

Originally Posted by 3s-a-charm

Yah, and a BMW with ABS or power steering/brakes, power windows, power seats, navigation, VANOS, etc. is not an authentic BMW either. If you want authentic, buy a classic. If you want innovative buy a new car.

Strawman argument. I am not talking about ABS, power steering, power windos, power seats, navigation and VANOS. I am talking specifically about automatic transmission. I also acknowledge DCT in superior in terms of lap times or shift times.

I DO like updates such as innovative engine pieces (valvetronic, vanos, direct injection, efficient turbos..etc) that don't interfere with driver's involvement and DO NOT like the ones that do such as electronic drive by wire. I like ighter, better suspension, more torsional rigidity, better brakes, efficiency, aero ...etc.

[M-Power111]

Originally Posted by BLITZ

Does anyone see the cat in the last pic?

looks like garfield, that cat has gotten closer to the new M5 before me. not cool man

[jayb289]

wish it was coming to the uk

[bmwm3redblack]

I'm not against dct,but it's always better when everyone can choose whatever he wants!!!

[KG3356MT]

I will be surprised if they sell more than 10 six speed m5 lol. Seems like a waste to me but, I guess having a choice is cool.

[JasonCSU]

Originally Posted by rjd598

its called dct

While a dual clutch transmission is definitely not like a conventional torque converter automatic, it can still shift its own gears thereby making it a form of automatic transmission.

Originally Posted by P-TownM3

DCT is so far from an automatic (even a "better" automatic). Foot (human) operated clutches will become obsolete.

I understand if you prefer to row gears...as I did in every car prior to my M3....but the DCT is and will always be the superior gearbox, in every aspect.

Not every aspect. It will not always be the superior gearbox when it comes to reliability based on how complex a DCT is. I've read about some of the issues a few of the M3 and 135 DCT guys have had on these forums. There have been cars refusing to shift into certain gears, or refusing to shift at all and remain in park. I prefer a car that doesn't decide on when I can or can't shift, or even drive the car at all for that matter. In theory, a DCT should be the better transmission for track driving, but I've read cases of cars from a few manufacturers go into limp mode because of the DCT overheating. How is that superior?

[e92ben]

Man I love this m5

[uhn2000]

Happy about the fact that they are giving us options - they are releasing it properly this time from the beginning. This car is destined to be a huge winner for BMW. I wonder how this new engine will respond to the MT. I will always be a manual driver but after owning the 135i I found that 6MT turbo charged engines are really hard to control and blip/downshift properly. Can't wait to hear reviews.

[uhn2000]

Originally Posted by southlight

What do you mean?


Best regards,
south

He means nothing just complaining - I don't understand the problem with an e-brake. I am just pumped that they are giving us a MT.

[Leo_328i]

Either way guys, at least you have the freedom to choose which transmission you want

Wish BMW would develop a 7 speed manual like Porsche has with the new 911

[cmk227]

Originally Posted by uhn2000

He means nothing just complaining - I don't understand the problem with an e-brake. I am just pumped that they are giving us a MT.

The e-brake is a bit of a let down. Have you ever done a fast turn where

[Carchitect]

Originally Posted by Jackbmw

The M5 of my dreams Manual and V8

I wish it was available here in Europe for true 6MT enthusiasts.

Delivery?

[xerox445]

Originally Posted by cmk227

The e-brake is a bit of a let down. Have you ever done a fast turn where

Originally Posted by uhn2000

He means nothing just complaining - I don't understand the problem with an e-brake. I am just pumped that they are giving us a MT.

No one still has ANY idea WTF you are talking about.

[AM1N]

Originally Posted by malter2.0

if your left foot is not pressing on the pedal its called automatic.

AMEN!!!

[uhn2000]

Originally Posted by cmk227

The e-brake is a bit of a let down. Have you ever done a fast turn where

This car's weight is in line with a 7 series - the last thing I want to do is do a power slide with hand brake ... I barely do it on the Porsche, more fun to just drift using the steering wheel and gas pedal when the roads are just lightly wet.

[Imola.ZHP]

giggity

[ajvee]

Anyone find it a bit ironic that the Europeans tout themselves as the better drivers/car enthusiasts, but seemingly have no interest in a 6mt M5?

[cmk227]

I be ordering a manual. It Does not bother me That the dtc is faster. I will just enjoy my manual.

[Jblack4083]

Originally Posted by malter2.0

just like E39, this car should only come in manual transmission.

BMW with automatic transmission is not authentic BMW.

What a silly comment.

[richb811]

Originally Posted by Bubajay

As awesome as it is that this car is in manual, it just does not seem in the cars character to be a manual. It is this huge luxury sports sedan and I think most people would picture it with a DCT only. Interesting though. I think very VERY few will be sold with a manual transmission.

M5 was only sold with a non manual for the first time in 2005 in the E60.

The car was built as a sports car first, sedan second. It makes perfect sense that the car has a manual transmission in it. This is what this car is built for.

The 550i is a perfect car for an automatic transmission. Manual for me please!

[richb811]

Originally Posted by Jblack4083

What a silly comment.

Why is it a silly comment?

Just because he states a preference doesn't mean you have to disparage him.