H&R Springs vs Comp Springs

Lowflight · 08-26-2017, 08:33 AM

What is the difference between drop? I have to assume the H&R is lower right?

My H&R come today. Can't wait to install

carrera2RSL · 08-26-2017, 08:53 AM

I believe so, a good measure (approximate) is to measure the wheel centre to arch lip vertically up. Stock CP suspension is 380mm F, 367mm R

Get the car as level as you can and average left and right, you'll be close enough to see how much lower H&R springs are

josec70 · 08-26-2017, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowflight

What is the difference between drop? I have to assume the H&R is lower right?

My H&R come today. Can't wait to install

H&R slightly lower than Comp.

HXS · 08-26-2017, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowflight

What is the difference between drop? I have to assume the H&R is lower right?

My H&R come today. Can't wait to install

I had H&R's and it caused pretty bad negative front camber. The insides of my front tires were wearing a lot faster than the outer parts.

Lowflight · 08-27-2017, 07:26 AM

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I had H&R's and it caused pretty bad negative front camber. The insides of my front tires were wearing a lot faster than the outer parts.

Did you get an alignment after they settled?

That is a must on any car with and aftermarket spring setup. You change the geometry

boots · 08-27-2017, 07:52 AM

When I had hr the same happen to me as my inner wore out quickly leaving me really pissed off with tons of tire left to run on. And this was after I did everything I could do to get the front end right. Although I liked the way my car handle at that time, I don't like wasting money on tires. After buying kev3, corner balance and alignment I don't have the problem anymore

Lowflight · 08-27-2017, 08:41 AM

So, everyone running H&R springs has increased tire wear?

Lowflight · 08-27-2017, 12:50 PM

Thanks to all. Got the information in how to align it without tire wear.

HXS · 08-27-2017, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Lowflight

Did you get an alignment after they settled?

Negative. That probably would have fixed it somewhat.

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After buying kev3, corner balance and alignment I don't have the problem anymore

Did you have to get aftermarket camber arms to get the camber back into spec?

Lowflight · 08-30-2017, 10:32 PM

josec70 · 08-31-2017, 05:35 PM

Car looks so much better on the H&R's.

HXS · 09-01-2017, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Lowflight

Looks like they haven't settled in yet since H&R's usually give a front rake. In this pic, the front should be lower once they're settled.

Lowflight · 09-01-2017, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by HXS

Looks like they haven't settled in yet since H&R's usually give a front rake. In this pic, the front should be lower once they're settled.

Yep, they have settle a bunch since. That was about 30 min after install

550Reasons · 09-01-2017, 02:44 PM

Love the color

That drop, before settling, looks exactly the same as the Comp Pack springs

josec70 · 09-01-2017, 03:38 PM

They'll settle well below Comp Spring heights; I was on H&R's before going with KW HAS.

Lowflight · 09-01-2017, 03:45 PM

Just finished re-installing my Berger 15mm/10mm spacers. Looks evil now

Lowflight · 09-01-2017, 03:58 PM

So, how many miles/days for it to settle before I get an alignment?

A Need For Speed · 10-04-2021, 12:33 PM

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So, everyone running H&R springs has increased tire wear?

I had a blowout. Car is lowered with H & R's. Looks like the negative camber wore out the inside edge of the tire till it blew.

Can this be fixed with a good front end alignment or is negative camber a fact of life with the H & R's and my tires will continue to wear badly?

I like the lowered look but not sure its very practical if I'm going to go thru tires.

SpeedProtocol · 10-05-2021, 03:48 PM

You cant adjust the front camber without buying different arms. BMW has different set camber arms and there might be an aftermarket adjustable one.

m5rosco · 10-06-2021, 05:12 PM

Camber doesn't kill tyres, toe does. I ran nearly 4° camber on my M3, with almost zero toe (a very slight touch of toe in) and had even tyre wear.

08-26-2017, 08:33 AM	#1
Lowflight Captain 336 Rep 737 Posts Drives: 2012 E93 M3 Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: Memphis TN iTrader: (2)	H&R Springs vs Comp Springs What is the difference between drop? I have to assume the H&R is lower right? My H&R come today. Can't wait to install Last edited by Lowflight; 08-31-2017 at 12:45 PM..
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carrera2RSL Lieutenant 183 Rep 579 Posts Drives: F10 M5 CP Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	I believe so, a good measure (approximate) is to measure the wheel centre to arch lip vertically up. Stock CP suspension is 380mm F, 367mm R Get the car as level as you can and average left and right, you'll be close enough to see how much lower H&R springs are
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boots Curve Thrasher 623 Rep 3,773 Posts Drives: 2013 Bmw m5..White/Blk. Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cypress Tx iTrader: (0)	When I had hr the same happen to me as my inner wore out quickly leaving me really pissed off with tons of tire left to run on. And this was after I did everything I could do to get the front end right. Although I liked the way my car handle at that time, I don't like wasting money on tires. After buying kev3, corner balance and alignment I don't have the problem anymore __________________ 2013 Bmw M5-Alpine White/Black-Oem gloss blk powder coated wheels-Expel clear bra-35% tint-Rpi Gtm Exhaust-Rpi Downpipes-Rpi Scoops-Halim Cazimi Performance Tune-KwV3 coilovers Country run
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josec70 Major General 4074 Rep 5,233 Posts Drives: 22' Individual Chalk M5C Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami iTrader: (2)	Car looks so much better on the H&R's. __________________ CURRENT: 22' INDIVIDUAL M5\| CHALK \| TARTUFO \| CCB \| MPE \| H&R \| IND GONE: 19' M5C\| SINGAPORE GREY\| ARAGON\|VELOS VLS-06\|H&R\|iPE\|IND\|XPEL\|CF\|RADENSO GONE: 15' F10 M5\|BSM\|BLACK\|VELOS VSS-S2\|KW\|AKRA\|IND\|CF \|ESCORT 360\|VELOS PIGGY GONE: 13' F10 M5\|SG\|BLACK\|AKRA\|KW\|IND LONG GONE: 09' E60 M5\|02' E39 M5
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550Reasons Captain 150 Rep 738 Posts Drives: F10 550i Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: South Florida iTrader: (1)	Love the color That drop, before settling, looks exactly the same as the Comp Pack springs __________________ 2011 550i 2013 M5 2014 M5 CP 2016 550i
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josec70 Major General 4074 Rep 5,233 Posts Drives: 22' Individual Chalk M5C Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami iTrader: (2)	They'll settle well below Comp Spring heights; I was on H&R's before going with KW HAS. __________________ CURRENT: 22' INDIVIDUAL M5\| CHALK \| TARTUFO \| CCB \| MPE \| H&R \| IND GONE: 19' M5C\| SINGAPORE GREY\| ARAGON\|VELOS VLS-06\|H&R\|iPE\|IND\|XPEL\|CF\|RADENSO GONE: 15' F10 M5\|BSM\|BLACK\|VELOS VSS-S2\|KW\|AKRA\|IND\|CF \|ESCORT 360\|VELOS PIGGY GONE: 13' F10 M5\|SG\|BLACK\|AKRA\|KW\|IND LONG GONE: 09' E60 M5\|02' E39 M5
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m5rosco Second Lieutenant 211 Rep 250 Posts Drives: 2016 F10 M5 Join Date: Jun 2020 Location: UK iTrader: (0)	Camber doesn't kill tyres, toe does. I ran nearly 4° camber on my M3, with almost zero toe (a very slight touch of toe in) and had even tyre wear.
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