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      03-09-2014, 08:33 PM   #89
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You get 15% off with the BMW CCA discount.

I think the program is great value. Remember it includes accommodation, free gifts including a BMW helmet, meals, tires (I'm sure you use a full set over the 2 days) and most important comprehensive insurance with no copay. You could total an M5 and wouldn't pay a dime. That doesn't apply at other programs. Also the tuition is top notch. I really learned to drive my car and that was priceless.
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You get 15% off with the BMW CCA discount.

I think the program is great value. Remember it includes accommodation, free gifts including a BMW helmet, meals, tires (I'm sure you use a full set over the 2 days) and most important comprehensive insurance with no copay. You could total an M5 and wouldn't pay a dime. That doesn't apply at other programs. Also the tuition is top notch. I really learned to drive my car and that was priceless.
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You get 15% off with the BMW CCA discount.

I think the program is great value. Remember it includes accommodation, free gifts including a BMW helmet, meals, tires (I'm sure you use a full set over the 2 days) and most important comprehensive insurance with no copay. You could total an M5 and wouldn't pay a dime. That doesn't apply at other programs. Also the tuition is top notch. I really learned to drive my car and that was priceless.
I understand, but this is North Carolina. It's not LA. The hotel stay does not cost $500/night and the insurance you are talking about can be purchased for $150-200 per track day in my area and that's a full comprehensive insurance - i.e. if I just get bored and hit a wall at 100 mph, they cover the cost of the car no questions asked.

I'm just saying, that's not a small amount of money and you could certainly enjoy several track days in a given year for less than that. Granted you won't get a BMW helmet or key chains and nobody will really pay attention to what you are doing as much as they do in the M school.
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I understand, but this is North Carolina. It's not LA. The hotel stay does not cost $500/night and the insurance you are talking about can be purchased for $150-200 per track day in my area and that's a full comprehensive insurance - i.e. if I just get bored and hit a wall at 100 mph, they cover the cost of the car no questions asked.

I'm just saying, that's not a small amount of money and you could certainly enjoy several track days in a given year for less than that. Granted you won't get a BMW helmet or key chains and nobody will really pay attention to what you are doing as much as they do in the M school.
Well if I break down the cost, to me it seems reasonable:
$3055
- $300 (2 nights hotel)
- $200 (6 meals)
- $300 (helmet)
- $150 (clothing merchandise)
- $1500 (set of tires)
- $400 (2 days insurance)
- $160 (fuel)
- $720 (instructors assuming 0.3 instructors per student for 16 hours at $150 per hour)
= a loss of $675

And this isn't including track rental, vehicle rental or maintenance.
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Well if I break down the cost, to me it seems reasonable:
$3055
- $300 (2 nights hotel)
- $200 (6 meals)
- $300 (helmet)
- $150 (clothing merchandise)
- $1500 (set of tires)
- $400 (2 days insurance)
- $160 (fuel)
- $720 (instructors assuming 0.3 instructors per student for 16 hours at $150 per hour)
= a loss of $675

And this isn't including track rental, vehicle rental or maintenance.
Listen, I'm not saying it's a bad deal. And at the end of the day, someone has to make money, and that someone is BMW so there will be a hefty price tag. I was just providing another perspective that's all. If a person wants to take the time to learn and join BMWCCA, they can have somewhat similar experience from a technical perspective (minus the accommodation, treatment, and goodies) that's all.
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porsche schools are equally as expensive, unless you are thinking of doing the gt3 class which is 10k.

you are also leaving out consumables (tires/brakes). they were swapping out tires every 2 days according to the instructors. since you only run the full track a few times and swap into different cars (M6, M3, 1M when I was there), I don't think the brakes get as much demand and they don't go through as many pads as one would do at a local track event.

personally i think nothing is better than driving your own car. the costs of doing an HPDE school are initially much lower but are essentially a wash in the end IMHO.

oh and upgrade to the 2 day. highly worth it.
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For those interested in an M School, Jonathan Stribble, who works at the Performance Center in South Carolina, is, once again, doing his annual fundraising for the American Cancer Society, where he is offering up a chance to win a 1 Day M School. He has done this for the last several years.

If you win, you can also chose to apply the value of the 1 Day School towards another school, such as the 2 Day M School.

For each $10 donation to the American Cancer Society through Jonathan's site below, he will enter your name into the drawing (which is on Friday, May 23, 2014). He has all the details listed on his Relay for Life page:

http://main.acsevents.org/goto/stribble

Over the years, Jonathan has done, and continues to do great work raising money for the American Cancer Society.

So, if you are able, and would like a chance to win a 1 Day M School, please support his efforts.

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Anyone done one off these courses in the uk? Do they do them?
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Anyone done one off these courses in the uk? Do they do them?
There are a range of courses in Germany which are conducted in English.

http://www.bmw-drivingexperience.com...pe:Rennstrecke
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Thanks. M4 and M6, but no M5?
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Doing the 2 day M school on May 16 wknd. Received two 1 day school vouchers plus 15% discount for picking up my car at the PC on a wk day. Can't wait to go.
Old thread I know... Debating on a PCD vs 2 day M school. Price difference is obviously significant. How did you get a 1 day voucher? And, aren't they only open M-F for car deliveries? Could you do a Friday PCD and then a Sat-Sun M School? Can that 15% discount be combined with the BMWCCA 15% discount by chance?
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Thanks for the write up and the info. I didn't know about the CCA discount, been a member for years. I gotta figure out a time for me to cash in my free 1 Day voucher. But, it sounds like I really should do the 2 day school.
How are you guys getting these one day vouchers?!?!
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I haven't attended the M School in a long time, but it was a damn good experience.
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Thanks for the write up and the info. I didn't know about the CCA discount, been a member for years. I gotta figure out a time for me to cash in my free 1 Day voucher. But, it sounds like I really should do the 2 day school.
How are you guys getting these one day vouchers?!?!
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Old thread I know... Debating on a PCD vs 2 day M school. Price difference is obviously significant. How did you get a 1 day voucher? And, aren't they only open M-F for car deliveries? Could you do a Friday PCD and then a Sat-Sun M School? Can that 15% discount be combined with the BMWCCA 15% discount by chance?
I did both PCD and the 2 day M school. I got the 1 day voucher when I won a raffle I filled out when I picked up my car, the 2nd voucher I received for being a returning BMW customer. PCD is done M-F. PCD can be done on a Friday but it's hard to get it. I know you can't stack discounts as I asked, but you can always ask when you decide to schedule you M school.
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I did both PCD and the 2 day M school. I got the 1 day voucher when I won a raffle I filled out when I picked up my car, the 2nd voucher I received for being a returning BMW customer. PCD is done M-F. PCD can be done on a Friday but it's hard to get it. I know you can't stack discounts as I asked, but you can always ask when you decide to schedule you M school.
You mean returning BMW customer as in getting another BMW car or as in going back to the school? It'll be my 4th BMW.

You don't get any kind of discount on M school if you buy an M do you?

I'd [wishfully] think/hope that if I'm going to give them $3500 for the school and be there for PCD on my M4 that they could try and work me in on the Friday, the day right before.
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You mean returning BMW customer as in getting another BMW car or as in going back to the school? It'll be my 4th BMW.

You don't get any kind of discount on M school if you buy an M do you?

I'd [wishfully] think/hope that if I'm going to give them $3500 for the school and be there for PCD on my M4 that they could try and work me in on the Friday, the day right before.
Sorry yeah as in buying another bmw. I didn't get a discount for buying an M.

Never hurts to ask for a friday PCD, but it all depends on when you car gets stateside and passes customs.
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Sorry yeah as in buying another bmw. I didn't get a discount for buying an M.

Never hurts to ask for a friday PCD, but it all depends on when you car gets stateside and passes customs.
So, I should/would get a voucher for one of the days for getting my car? As in a $2000 discount? And that's good for any repeat BMW? My friend is about to possibly get another 3 series as well and might come.
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So, I should/would get a voucher for one of the days for getting my car? As in a $2000 discount? And that's good for any repeat BMW? My friend is about to possibly get another 3 series as well and might come.
Not sure, if they will give you a voucher. i wasnt expecting it. I do know that voucher was for a reg 1 day school (not M school) which at the time was valued at $750.
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Not sure, if they will give you a voucher. i wasnt expecting it. I do know that voucher was for a reg 1 day school (not M school) which at the time was valued at $750.
I read somewhere HERE that now they only give vouchers for an M5 or M6, so my M4 wouldn't qualify. I'll give them a call tomorrow to see if I'd somehow get lucky, but I won't hold my breath.
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