Downpipes, and which to get?

f10eugene · 01-06-2016, 01:31 PM

I have the Evolution Racewerks downpipes with Eisenmann Race exhaust. It is SIGNIFICANTLY louder than stock, specifically cold start; which doesn't bother me too much. The one thing that took some time to get used to is the smell; when you have the car running in the garage for too long or if you sit at a stop light with windows down, the smell can be unbearable, I wouldn't recommend having children breathing than in. Your exhaust tips will also be darker and get dirtier quickly. Also, unless you have a tune, you will get a check engine light about 50 miles after you install them. In regards to install, 7 hours is OUTRAGEOUS. My friend installed mine for me; and even when we ran into a little issue with getting one of OEM DP's off, the install roughly 2.5 hours.

mike@x-ph.com · 01-06-2016, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by f10eugene

I have the Evolution Racewerks downpipes with Eisenmann Race exhaust. It is SIGNIFICANTLY louder than stock, specifically cold start; which doesn't bother me too much. The one thing that took some time to get used to is the smell; when you have the car running in the garage for too long or if you sit at a stop light with windows down, the smell can be unbearable, I wouldn't recommend having children breathing than in. Your exhaust tips will also be darker and get dirtier quickly. Also, unless you have a tune, you will get a check engine light about 50 miles after you install them. In regards to install, 7 hours is OUTRAGEOUS. My friend installed mine for me; and even when we ran into a little issue with getting one of OEM DP's off, the install roughly 2.5 hours.

Some people are definitely more sensitive to the smell. All my cars have had caltess DP, the only time i smell it is on cold start if i keep the car on idle for couple minutes

MCarsFan · 01-06-2016, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Some people are definitely more sensitive to the smell. All my cars have had caltess DP, the only time i smell it is on cold start if i keep the car on idle for couple minutes

Smell will always be there but the power available form downpipes makes up for it. Make sure you get a tune and get cold start deleted. It makes the whole experience much more pleasant. Haha

NightM · 01-06-2016, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by MCarsFan

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Some people are definitely more sensitive to the smell. All my cars have had caltess DP, the only time i smell it is on cold start if i keep the car on idle for couple minutes

Smell will always be there but the power available form downpipes makes up for it. Make sure you get a tune and get cold start deleted. It makes the whole experience much more pleasant. Haha

I love the catless smell makes it more amplifeyed racing Lol

Day Laborer · 01-06-2016, 06:05 PM

Make sure to buy new downpipe and exhaust gaskets (OEM). Reusing them may cause a rattle noise at low RPM.

Goranot · 01-06-2016, 06:36 PM

Any part numbers for the Oem exhaust gaskets..

Anyone had any issues or noticed any low end power loss?

combatbmw · 01-06-2016, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Day Laborer

Make sure to buy new downpipe and exhaust gaskets (OEM). Reusing them may cause a rattle noise at low RPM.

This is necessary, but results can be the same.
I changed my gaskets 3x till I finally gave up.

Day Laborer · 01-07-2016, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

Any part numbers for the Oem exhaust gaskets..

Anyone had any issues or noticed any low end power loss?

I personally felt like there was a loss of throttle response when down shifting, like a hesitation. Not not present unless downshifting.
Not much hesitation either, but might just be in my head
Someone else mentioned it too, buy says horsepower felt increased

Goranot · 01-14-2016, 08:36 AM

Hoping to order these

Any opinions will be appreciated

Performance Eurowerks · 01-14-2016, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

Hoping to order these

Any opinions will be appreciated

They're a beautiful set of downpipes! Great fitment, proven performance, and made in Europe.

I was about to offer our help in sourcing these for you, but it looks like you may be local to Evolve, hehe.

Goranot · 01-14-2016, 08:56 AM

I'm about 2 hrs from them ..supposed to be made by supersprint..

Are thes same size as stock as someone mentioned if there are hopefully won't be too loud?

Performance Eurowerks · 01-14-2016, 08:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

I'm about 2 hrs from them ..supposed to be made by supersprint..

Are thes same size as stock as someone mentioned if there are hopefully won't be too loud?

They are 3" then step down to 2.5" to mate with a factory XPipe.
It does increase volume a little, but in-cabin we don't find them to be loud or drone-y at all!

Shoot Imran@Evolve a PM or email and he'll definitely sort you out!

Goranot · 01-14-2016, 09:43 AM

Looking forward to getting them fitted..

Really nice Guy..Imran and very professional company..have pestered them enough times..

Are these the same as the AMS ones are? Are they same size also?

iamvietness · 01-15-2016, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Performance Eurowerks

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Originally Posted by Goranot

Hoping to order these

Any opinions will be appreciated

They're a beautiful set of downpipes! Great fitment, proven performance, and made in Europe.

I was about to offer our help in sourcing these for you, but it looks like you may be local to Evolve, hehe.

You guys have some to sell?

Goranot · 01-15-2016, 08:51 PM

What about is the average time for a relatively competent garage to fit them in

As getting times from 2hrs to 5hrs

Thanks

Goranot · 02-03-2016, 11:33 AM

Saw these on eBay from Germany ..why such price difference?

In UK about £500 about $730

Goranot · 02-03-2016, 11:35 AM

This is the eBay link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-F10-F1...0AAOSwpzdWsRjL

What's the difference if any? As look very similar to all the others..

Advice as always will be appreciated

mstmng · 02-03-2016, 02:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

I'm about 2 hrs from them ..supposed to be made by supersprint..

Are thes same size as stock as someone mentioned if there are hopefully won't be too loud?

if they are made by supersprint make sure u dont get charged over 1k gbp
i got mine from supersprint shipped for 1k

takes 2-4h to install, depends how many time mech done it before

first time took me about 4h, coupe weeks ago did it in 2h

mike@x-ph.com · 02-03-2016, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

This is the eBay link

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BMW-F10-F1...0AAOSwpzdWsRjL

What's the difference if any? As look very similar to all the others..

Advice as always will be appreciated

Keep in mind one thing when buying products from Ebay
If product does not fit, you will need to pay for shipping it back + the 4-6 hour labor time ( 4 hour to try and install it. 2 hours to install the OE ones back)
Sometimes it makes much more sense to pay extra for a proven brand

Goranot · 02-03-2016, 03:36 PM

whats the difference between the evolve ones and ebay..

contacted seller and he said if any issues whatsoever can be returned for full refund..

mike@x-ph.com · 02-03-2016, 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Goranot

whats the difference between the evolve ones and ebay..

contacted seller and he said if any issues whatsoever can be returned for full refund..

Will he also refund you shipping (both ways) and 5 hours of labor as well?

Goranot · 02-03-2016, 05:57 PM

Fair valid points..
all I am trying to do is ascertain from those with expertise and know how
If both the above and others like the evolve are exactly the same in terms of materials used what am I paying the extra £500 plus for?

Is it just massive markups or is there actually a difference?

Obviously looking at the pipes they look very similar and are made using stainless SS304 with 80mm tube and 2.2mm thickness
In terms of fitment he has assured it is 100 % fitment

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f10eugene First Lieutenant 107 Rep 332 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW m5 Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: Chicago, IL iTrader: (1)	I have the Evolution Racewerks downpipes with Eisenmann Race exhaust. It is SIGNIFICANTLY louder than stock, specifically cold start; which doesn't bother me too much. The one thing that took some time to get used to is the smell; when you have the car running in the garage for too long or if you sit at a stop light with windows down, the smell can be unbearable, I wouldn't recommend having children breathing than in. Your exhaust tips will also be darker and get dirtier quickly. Also, unless you have a tune, you will get a check engine light about 50 miles after you install them. In regards to install, 7 hours is OUTRAGEOUS. My friend installed mine for me; and even when we ran into a little issue with getting one of OEM DP's off, the install roughly 2.5 hours.
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Goranot First Lieutenant 37 Rep 325 Posts Drives: Bmw m5 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (0)	I'm about 2 hrs from them ..supposed to be made by supersprint.. Are thes same size as stock as someone mentioned if there are hopefully won't be too loud?
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Goranot First Lieutenant 37 Rep 325 Posts Drives: Bmw m5 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (0)	Looking forward to getting them fitted.. Really nice Guy..Imran and very professional company..have pestered them enough times.. Are these the same as the AMS ones are? Are they same size also?
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Goranot First Lieutenant 37 Rep 325 Posts Drives: Bmw m5 Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Birmingham iTrader: (0)	Fair valid points.. all I am trying to do is ascertain from those with expertise and know how If both the above and others like the evolve are exactly the same in terms of materials used what am I paying the extra £500 plus for? Is it just massive markups or is there actually a difference? Obviously looking at the pipes they look very similar and are made using stainless SS304 with 80mm tube and 2.2mm thickness In terms of fitment he has assured it is 100 % fitment
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