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      04-24-2012, 06:11 AM   #221
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      04-24-2012, 11:49 AM   #222
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      04-24-2012, 12:38 PM   #223
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Did you know that, in Germany, a driver who puts his turn signal on to change lanes has the priority over those coming behind ?
This is not true.
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      04-24-2012, 02:34 PM   #224
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It was an UNRESTRICTED stretch of Autobahn, so slow cars shoul by law stay in the right lane. Therefore the real culprit for this accident was the slow, careless idiot who cut in front of the M5.
Oh yeah. Now the question is "are you slow driving at 93 mph (150 km/h) ?" Have you seen this video ???



220 mph (320 km/h) vs 93 mph (150 km/h).

This doesn't make sense. The idiot was driving the M5.

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This is not true.
I wasn't clear... I meant that what's expected by the driver that's overtaking, is that the driver coming behind let him do. And that became the habit on the road. Can you confirm that ?
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      04-24-2012, 05:21 PM   #225
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Uh I already posted this clip on page 7 and we discussed it.
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      04-24-2012, 08:38 PM   #226
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That's right M-bitious. Your credits... But it looks like some missed it.
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      04-25-2012, 12:27 AM   #227
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Don't forget the the recommended speed on the unrestricted Autobahn is 130KPH. If you are going faster than 130KPH, and have an accident, I am told that it becomes a totally different investigation.

It is nice to see the big saloon protect its occupants. RIP hund.

IMO, you can't blame the driver in the left lane for an idiot in the right land changing lanes in front of him/her. These douche-bags in the slow lane that believe that they must jump right to pass a truck while there is a car fast approaching at 150MPH drive me crazy. The dang truck drivers do it to, in order to gain 2KPH over the other truck that they are passing make me want to !

On the Autobahn you either lead, follow, or GTFOOTW!
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      04-25-2012, 10:48 AM   #228
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I second that "take it to the track" that's a big 10 FOR

I like to add that driving on any highway is a privilege and not a right. Some people think it is a right for them to be there and therefore act like they own the road. Completely forgetting what can happen if someone pulls out from the right lane into the left without warning as many people do.

If traffic in the right lane on the autobahn is between 150 and 170 KM (I know that is where I travel often between 2 trucks [since I rent VW when in Germany], until the one behind me comes so close it becommes uncomfortable). So let us say the left lane then open and some of the fast cars travel 250 to 300 KM is that not like playing Russian Roulette ?

I often ask myself (when I travel on the autobahn) don't those people realize that driving at those speeds is just like walking around with a loaded gun? How iresponcible are people becoming,

People that are responsible would take the car to the track and if they speed like this they better make sure that no one else is around so when they do crash (blown tire etc) they only kill themselfs and not some increment other or heaven forbit an entire family.

Yes .... indeed take it to the track, I agree 100%
Do you know a lot of tracks available in southern ontario suitable for a safe driving?

The best solution is to make harder to get drivers license, undergo driving test every 5 years to prevent bad habits in driving.

Accident happens not because of high speed, but because of people who don't know what they are doing on the road. THEY ARE OPERATING HEAVY MACHINERY not just walking along sidewalk. They should be ready that something may go wrong and act accordingly. Idiots, that don't signal lane changing, don't check their mirrors, who accelerating on yellow light through intersection, etc - drive me crazy.

They should implement more quality training of drivers not lowering speed limits.

The lower the limit, more idiots will just survive accidents but it won't prevent them from happening.
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      04-25-2012, 02:27 PM   #229
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Do you know a lot of tracks available in southern ontario suitable for a safe driving?

The best solution is to make harder to get drivers license, undergo driving test every 5 years to prevent bad habits in driving.

Accident happens not because of high speed, but because of people who don't know what they are doing on the road. THEY ARE OPERATING HEAVY MACHINERY not just walking along sidewalk. They should be ready that something may go wrong and act accordingly. Idiots, that don't signal lane changing, don't check their mirrors, who accelerating on yellow light through intersection, etc - drive me crazy.

They should implement more quality training of drivers not lowering speed limits.

The lower the limit, more idiots will just survive accidents but it won't prevent them from happening.
Sorry I don't know any tracks in my area. I once went to the one just east of Toronto to visit. I don't track my car. I drive my M3 as a normal car and knowing the power is there when needed is what I look for. My first M3 once saved my life.

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My first drivers licence is from Germany (car and motorcycle) in Germany they are very strict when it comes to qualifying for a drivers licence. I took the BMW drivers training, been driving for a very long time and know excactley what you mean by more training needed.
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      04-27-2012, 05:22 PM   #230
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Hope the driver and the passengers a full and speedy recovery!
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      04-28-2012, 10:29 PM   #231
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Fastest I ever drove was 245km/h, I would never drive this fast if I had a family member or anyone else in the car, it's not responsibility I would want to have.

It's one thing when I get adrenaline rush and take it over safe speeds on autobahn or anywhere else, it's another when your are responsible for safety of the passengers.

Wish driver and passenger a fast recovery.
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      05-08-2012, 01:04 AM   #232
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what do you expect at 180mph

Legal or not, traveling at that speed is gambling with your life. I have taken a car to 160mph when I was much younger and I would never do it again on a public road. You approach cars and objects in seconds and when you pass a stationary object like a highway sign, it is so far from you once you look back into the mirror. On public roads anything can happen, animals could wander the road, cars cut in, etc but that is a risk you take going so fast. I would never do that speed with my kid or dog in my car. It is irresponsible as an adult and a parent to subject someone to that kind of danger. If your kid was riding in that car with that driver and died I am sure most people would not be blaming the other car. Even though high speeds are legal in Germany, you still need to use some common sense and drive defensively because you cannot control all the other factors around you. I do not feel sorry for this person or his family as they all knew what they were getting themselves into when traveling this fast. I'm just happy they did not injure an innocent person.
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      05-08-2012, 11:48 AM   #233
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      05-09-2012, 08:02 PM   #234
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If you Ontario guys have never done it you have to take your M5 to Mosport near Bowmanville. There are lots of track days organized for Mosport and you should no trouble finding one. Very fast and a true test of the car's ability. You have no idea what your car is capable of until you track it. You also save money on speeding tickets because tracking helps to get it out of your system!
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      05-10-2012, 02:10 PM   #235
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Life is short and precious. It's not because your car is capable of those speeds and because you're allowed to drive those speeds on the autobahn that you SHOULD.

Reckless and selfish. Especially with a passenger and a dog in the car plus your sons following you.
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      05-14-2012, 03:12 AM   #236
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I wasn't clear... I meant that what's expected by the driver that's overtaking, is that the driver coming behind let him do. And that became the habit on the road. Can you confirm that ?
Yes, I can confirm that You don't have to let them in but I'd say the mentality here is that in ~75% of the cases they will let you in.
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      05-16-2012, 08:21 AM   #237
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http://www.wreckedexotics.com/newpho...-m5-4629.shtml

Looks like one got taken out in the Toronto area...
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      05-24-2012, 08:55 PM   #238
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Anyone know who's M5 it was in toronto that got wacked?
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      06-06-2012, 03:25 AM   #239
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Anyone have updates on the passengers?

Took a quick look at the thread...
All I can say is, we have incredibly safe cars but we should all be careful out there. I'm kind of impressed at the number of people here that actually speed and enjoy it. I used to speed, I don't anymore because it's just not worth the risk on public streets. Pick a track, drive free, stay safe... I'm happy this way.

This goes out to all my fellow bimmers... DRIVE SAFELY .
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This is Deadly !
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      09-01-2012, 04:16 PM   #241
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lucky

To all bm owners be careful out there, these guys were extremely lucky you might not be, it looks like they rolled over etc but didnt seem to hit a tree or anything else, if they had it would have been over for all of them, father and sons racing! can you imagine the wife/mother when she found out what happened. Drive safe guys...speedy recovery to all
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