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      08-13-2017, 10:48 AM   #1
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E63 S acceleration

Finally some test figures. This one done Auto Bild (they are pretty much the only one does 0-300, SA doesn't use track long enough for 0-300 but they do test them on the ring which Auto Bild does not).
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For comparison, BMW is M6 GC.
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M6 GC figures.
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M6 coupe is 4 seconds faster 0-300 eh?

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M6 coupe is 4 seconds faster 0-300 eh?

No subsequent German magazine M6 coupe test ever came close to that though. They are usually in the 34~35 range (the last M6 coupe (600HP) done by Auto Bild did 35.1). Where as the RS7 performance has consistently been tested at 32~33 range.

So that 30 seconds M6 coupe is an outlier to me.
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No subsequent German magazine M6 coupe test ever came close to that though. They are usually in the 34~35 range (the last M6 coupe (600HP) done by Auto Bild did 35.1). Where as the RS7 performance has consistently been tested at 32~33 range.

So that 30 seconds M6 coupe is an outlier to me.
This guy seems to replicate those times with his car. Lightest version of the M6 though in stock form, 343's, CCB's, Akra exhaust though.

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No subsequent German magazine M6 coupe test ever came close to that though. They are usually in the 34~35 range (the last M6 coupe (600HP) done by Auto Bild did 35.1). Where as the RS7 performance has consistently been tested at 32~33 range.

So that 30 seconds M6 coupe is an outlier to me.
This guy seems to replicate those times with his car. Lightest version of the M6 though in stock form, 343's, CCB's, Akra exhaust though.

Well again, it's not my car so I can't really say what it can or cannot do, but 0-300 in 29 seconds is in the category of 911 TTS and R8 V10 Plus, maybe he has one of those outlier M6 coupe.
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Thanks for posting. Good stuff!

Maybe I'm missing it, but I can't see if they list the Curb Weight for the new E63S and the RS7 Performance in that article.

Either way you look at it, the new E63S in stock form is certainly a fast car. It should definitely give the F90 M5 a run for its money.
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2024kg and 2000kg, it is in the original chart
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2024kg and 2000kg, it is in the original chart
Yeah the AMG is now even heavier than the usual pig in this segment, which is the Audi. I don't remember the weight of the new Porsche Pam Turbo but I'm pretty certain it's over 2000 Kg as well.

Looks like BMW is the only one in this segment who even cares trying to keep it under 2000 Kg.
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Yeah the AMG is now even heavier than the usual pig in this segment, which is the Audi. I don't remember the weight of the new Porsche Pam Turbo but I'm pretty certain it's over 2000 Kg as well.

Looks like BMW is the only one in this segment who even cares trying to keep it under 2000 Kg.
The new Panamera Turbo is slightly over 4,400lbs as well.

As of this writing BMW hasn't officially released the curb weight figures for the F90 M5 yet. When the F90 Prototypes were unveiled to journalists, they cited curb weight figures that were wildly inconsistent. Therefore we will have to wait and see, at least until next week what BMW states will be the final curb weight figure for the F90. I do bet that it will be lighter than the E63S, but by how much I don't think I can even take a guess right now. There is still so much we don't know about the F90 in terms of weight savings efforts. No word yet on what the doors will be made out of, carbon fiber drive shaft? Carbon Fiber Hood? I think I did read the F90 M5 may get a Carbon Fiber Trunk/Boot, that's unconfirmed I think. We do know the F90 will get a Carbon Fiber Roof option, where we also know that the E63S will not have that. We may know all next week apparently.
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The new Panamera Turbo was 2079kg here

http://www.auto-motor-und-sport.de/v...hnische-daten/

M6 GC was 1981kg and the RS7 was 2023kg in the same test, but they haven't uploaded an E63s test yet.
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This guy seems to replicate those times with his car. Lightest version of the M6 though in stock form, 343's, CCB's, Akra exhaust though.

this is my video
if conditions are ok (temperature, etc) ~30secs 0-300 is possible (vbox)
usually it was 32-33s.
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The new Panamera Turbo is slightly over 4,400lbs as well.

As of this writing BMW hasn't officially released the curb weight figures for the F90 M5 yet. When the F90 Prototypes were unveiled to journalists, they cited curb weight figures that were wildly inconsistent. Therefore we will have to wait and see, at least until next week what BMW states will be the final curb weight figure for the F90. I do bet that it will be lighter than the E63S, but by how much I don't think I can even take a guess right now. There is still so much we don't know about the F90 in terms of weight savings efforts. No word yet on what the doors will be made out of, carbon fiber drive shaft? Carbon Fiber Hood? I think I did read the F90 M5 may get a Carbon Fiber Trunk/Boot, that's unconfirmed I think. We do know the F90 will get a Carbon Fiber Roof option, where we also know that the E63S will not have that. We may know all next week apparently.
Definitely no carbon fiber driveshaft, especially since M3/M4 are getting steel. Here's the 2 piece DS picture from the body-away view, if it was CF it would be a 1 piece unit

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Definitely no carbon fiber driveshaft, especially since M3/M4 are getting steel. Here's the 2 piece DS picture from the body-away view, if it was CF it would be a 1 piece unit

Funny with that central muffler looking thing, it seems like the exhaust note will be quieter than the F10. Lol!
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Yeah the AMG is now even heavier than the usual pig in this segment, which is the Audi. I don't remember the weight of the new Porsche Pam Turbo but I'm pretty certain it's over 2000 Kg as well.

Looks like BMW is the only one in this segment who even cares trying to keep it under 2000 Kg.
The new Panamera Turbo is slightly over 4,400lbs as well.

As of this writing BMW hasn't officially released the curb weight figures for the F90 M5 yet. When the F90 Prototypes were unveiled to journalists, they cited curb weight figures that were wildly inconsistent. Therefore we will have to wait and see, at least until next week what BMW states will be the final curb weight figure for the F90. I do bet that it will be lighter than the E63S, but by how much I don't think I can even take a guess right now. There is still so much we don't know about the F90 in terms of weight savings efforts. No word yet on what the doors will be made out of, carbon fiber drive shaft? Carbon Fiber Hood? I think I did read the F90 M5 may get a Carbon Fiber Trunk/Boot, that's unconfirmed I think. We do know the F90 will get a Carbon Fiber Roof option, where we also know that the E63S will not have that. We may know all next week apparently.
If the new M5 is the same weight as the F10, I consider that a victory in itself.
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