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      11-28-2016, 07:09 AM   #1
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Anybody have wholesale $s for 16s or even 15s?

Trying to gauge current market numbers for lightly used 16 and 15s? I know there may not be 16s in the system but that's why I'm asking for 16s and/or 15s. No 13/14s please.

Having owned several Ms and we all know the prices crater after purchase, especially on our Ms, just curious where these numbers are at.

Again, I'm looking for "wholesale" numbers which is what a stealer would have bought (through trade or auction) from someone. I'm seeing they are marking them up at least 10Gs or at least that's my theory today.

Thoughts?
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      11-28-2016, 07:46 PM   #2
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they can mark them up all they want, shit isn't moving.


there is a 15 MCB fully loaded sans, CC's, with 14k miles asking 69, they can't get it. Looking to snag that car on wednesday..
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Agreed. Let them sit another 3/4 months. Stealers always say these cars are impossible to sell during winter months, then they throw a crappy trade in number at you.

Low ballers at trade then try the high number at sell time. Those silver surfer Ms look great but they will sit till spring and they will be available at 25Gs off.
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m5's and m6's seem impossible to sell regardless. lmao


prices are dropping by the month it looks like, good time to buy.
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      11-29-2016, 09:30 AM   #5
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Here's an M6 special at Pacific BMW, Cyber Monday sale. That's a great price on that MSRP without any negotiation. You can get it for even less if you talk to Greg.
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Stop the bimsanity
Another lemming bmw dealer in NC
2014 M5 nearing 45k miles No comp pack no full leather one year left on warranty or 5k miles
No CPO $65k
As u know I have intently watched now since mid Sept FL to NH building on copious spreadsheets and ghosting negotiations with many many dealerships
I've seen 5k 12k 16k with comp packs fold down to mid 60 with CPO and low 60 without
One guy had listed for $72k and was ready to take $65 on my first offer.
Please stand strong and wait.
No one is buying 2013-2014 because prices are sooooo inflated
Need to come down another 5k and they will sell and be competitive
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I'm seeing the same BS with low mileage 15/16s. They (Stealers) want to collect cars I guess. No one should be paying within 5Gs of their ridiculous asks. As soon as you drive off (or within 6 months), these go down 10Gs in value from sale price. Buyers need to be more firm. Many are coming off lease. There will be good deals to make out there.
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What is actually amusing, I have a few incoming voice mails past several weeks from some of these dealerships (including BMW) asking me if I'm still in the market for their M5 and they want to talk. I called two back and they talked about still being firm...not willing to wiggle. So don't waste my time. Patience.
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I'm seeing the same BS with low mileage 15/16s. They (Stealers) want to collect cars I guess. No one should be paying within 5Gs of their ridiculous asks. As soon as you drive off (or within 6 months), these go down 10Gs in value from sale price. Buyers need to be more firm. Many are coming off lease. There will be good deals to make out there.
Mark,

are you looking for another m5 in the future? I thought you were keeping the x5m for a few years lol.
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Mark,

are you looking for another m5 in the future? I thought you were keeping the x5m for a few years lol.
Dunno. Kicking it around some. ugh! I'm trying to hold on to it. Its fast and fun but its no car, bottom line. Liking the awd feeling that the bus is unstoppable but so far its not really needed so....
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Dunno. Kicking it around some. ugh! I'm trying to hold on to it. Its fast and fun but its no car, bottom line. Liking the awd feeling that the bus is unstoppable but so far its not really needed so....
I hear ya. That's the way I felt. For a truck it's great but if you don't need an SUV, you might as well have an m5/m6.
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m5's and m6's seem impossible to sell regardless. lmao


prices are dropping by the month it looks like, good time to buy.
This is good news. My lease ends in a year and I'm seriously considering another F10 M5 late next year. With the G30 fully in production by then (w/ the new M5 coming soon), this bodes well for future resale prices.
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This is good news. My lease ends in a year and I'm seriously considering another F10 M5 late next year. With the G30 fully in production by then (w/ the new M5 coming soon), this bodes well for future resale prices.


future resale of what, f10's?


dude, these are sub 65k cars after 2 years... There's no money in them.

it's THAT bad. I'm not complaining, (i leased) i'm just glad i didn't buy the dam thing. Or would i ever for that matter.
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future resale of what, f10's?


dude, these are sub 65k cars after 2 years... There's no money in them.

it's THAT bad. I'm not complaining, (i leased) i'm just glad i didn't buy the dam thing. Or would i ever for that matter.
all big body cars are the same. x5m, x6m, m5, m6, e63, ml63, cls63, s63... they are all the same.
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all big body cars are the same. x5m, x6m, m5, m6, e63, ml63, cls63, s63... they are all the same.



basically any M or AMG.

the car business is a filthy one, some find out the hard way.


yesterday i watched one of the imfamously overpriced competition m6's (with all the retarded stripes) with 150+k sticker not even crack 100k, with less than 4k miles. Absolutely hilarious.
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basically any M or AMG.

the car business is a filthy one, some find out the hard way.


yesterday i watched one of the imfamously overpriced competition m6's (with all the retarded stripes) with 150+k sticker not even crack 100k, with less than 4k miles. Absolutely hilarious.
that's real ugly for sure.
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future resale of what, f10's?


dude, these are sub 65k cars after 2 years... There's no money in them.

it's THAT bad. I'm not complaining, (i leased) i'm just glad i didn't buy the dam thing. Or would i ever for that matter.
I'm talking on the buying end (for me) next year.

Like you, I leased my current ///M. I like the car a lot but I don't want to pay the residual next year and think I might find another lower mileage one for less.

Also, I'm not sure of a better buy in the low 60's range next year.
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agree^^!
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they can mark them up all they want, shit isn't moving.


there is a 15 MCB fully loaded sans, CC's, with 14k miles asking 69, they can't get it. Looking to snag that car on wednesday..
It still amazes me that I sold my 14 in May for $74k. Talk about timing it right!
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i just tried buying one from a dealer, car is listed for 64,811. 2014 with 35k miles.

i told them to give me their best cash price, and i'll cut a check tomorrow.

they came back with the same number, plus 80 for doc fees. he said they could not discount, because it's "too new, they just got it" and people are all over it. Yea, sure buddy. So they'd rather finance some retard with terrible credit and have him on the hook for 30 years instead of save me 2-3k and make a deal.

told them thanks for their time. i fucking hate selling a car, because now i have to find one and part of that is dealing with this garbage
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i just tried buying one from a dealer, car is listed for 64,811. 2014 with 35k miles.

i told them to give me their best cash price, and i'll cut a check tomorrow.

they came back with the same number, plus 80 for doc fees. he said they could not discount, because it's "too new, they just got it" and people are all over it. Yea, sure buddy. So they'd rather finance some retard with terrible credit and have him on the hook for 30 years instead of save me 2-3k and make a deal.

told them thanks for their time. i fucking hate selling a car, because now i have to find one and part of that is dealing with this garbage
There's a decent amount of m5's down by you I guess. In the NE there is barely any 15/16. I never really look at 14s and never 13s but to find a 15 or 16 up here is tough and they are getting the money for them up here. I traded my 15 non comp, no b & o 12k miles up here in September for $75k, they sold it within 1 week for $86k. I can't find much except of course there is an abundance of 13's.
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Trevor...a decent amount of 14s about 100 dealer and private nationwide
Many in upper 50 to low 60k listed, including Southeast and some in Cali
Mile range 33-38k
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