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      03-05-2014, 06:26 PM   #23
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It still has 3.5 years left, so it's right in the middle. MY2017 will be last one.
Yup, the Model Year 2017 should be in production from about July/August 2016 to May/June 2017. Then the wait for the G30 M5. The G30 M5 will be a 2019 Model Year and should theoretically be out summer/fall of 2018. Don't know if the American market will have to wait a year like they did for the F10 M5. If that is the case, Americans won't get the G30 M5 until summer/fall of 2019, but it would be a 2020 model. Sounds crazy just thinking about it huh? Imagine yourself saying, yeah I just bought a 2020 M5. Lol! Sounds like we should have M5's that can fly by then.
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Yup, the Model Year 2017 should be in production from about July/August 2016 to May/June 2017. Then the wait for the G30 M5. The G30 M5 will be a 2019 Model Year and should theoretically be out summer/fall of 2018. Don't know if the American market will have to wait a year like they did for the F10 M5. If that is the case, Americans won't get the G30 M5 until summer/fall of 2019, but it would be a 2020 model. Sounds crazy just thinking about it huh? Imagine yourself saying, yeah I just bought a 2020 M5. Lol! Sounds like we should have M5's that can fly by then.
HAHA! No shit. Anyone else think about how old they will be when each lease you sign ends? I do it with every car. When my M5 matures, I will be a ripe old mature 45! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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HAHA! No shit. Anyone else think about how old they will be when each lease you sign ends? I do it with every car. When my M5 matures, I will be a ripe old mature 45! Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
I'll be 40 in 2019. That scares the hell out of me. AHHHHHHHHHHH!!
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I'll be 40 in 2019. That scares the hell out of me. AHHHHHHHHHHH!!
The cure for 40? Throw yourself a pitty party at a nice place with an open bar! Get blacked out with everyone you know! That's what I did.

PS. Be sure to invite a LOT of people who are MUCH older than 40. That helps too!
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      03-05-2014, 07:35 PM   #28
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I was gonna ask M Fanatic to post his deal but he musta pissed someone off. Banned? lol
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I guess I'm a member of the M3 -> M5 club now too. I was on the list at two different dealers for an M3, but I got fed up with the wait and lack of any reliable info on when the car would be available (can't they at least post the configurator already!!?). I guess technically I'm still on the list at one of the dealers - gotta get that $500 back. Anyway, I'm picking my M5 up on Friday.
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I was gonna ask M Fanatic to post his deal but he musta pissed someone off. Banned? lol
Whoa. I wonder what for? :/
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I guess I'm a member of the M3 -> M5 club now too. I was on the list at two different dealers for an M3, but I got fed up with the wait and lack of any reliable info on when the car would be available (can't they at least post the configurator already!!?). I guess technically I'm still on the list at one of the dealers - gotta get that $500 back. Anyway, I'm picking my M5 up on Friday.
Nice! Congrats! This will be a big club by the end of March!
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Nice! Congrats! This will be a big club by the end of March!
Probably.
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I'm switching. I was set to order an M3 but these lease situation has persuaded me to negotiate an M5 this Friday. Hope it goes well.
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Let me ask you guys a question since most of you seem to be leasing. And by the way I have both a m3 and m5 and love both.

In leasing aren't you trapping yourself into the car for 3 years. Ap these lease payments sound great but your underwater day 1. You can't get out of the car until the residual catches up to the depreciation.

And I will tell you experience on the F10 M5 that the depreciation is significant.

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Let me ask you guys a question since most of you seem to be leasing. And by the way I have both a m3 and m5 and love both.

In leasing aren't you trapping yourself into the car for 3 years. Ap these lease payments sound great but your underwater day 1. You can't get out of the car until the residual catches up to the depreciation.

And I will tell you experience on the F10 M5 that the depreciation is significant.

Jeff
Generally you must stay in the car for the 36 months. There are exceptions, but the best you can usually hope for is a pull ahead that puts you at 33 months. Depreciation is another story. These cars are so supported right now that BMW says it "will" be worth over 60% of its new value in 3 years. No way.

Buy it, take the hit. Lease it with factory support, they take part of the hit as I see it.

And while we are talking about depreciation, if you buy the car, you own it. Meaning, if some moron rear-ends you, try to trade the car in at a dealer after moderate body work. HUGE depreciation, etc.

For me leasing works, always has. I just make sure I get what I really want and enjoy!
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I'm switching. I was set to order an M3 but these lease situation has persuaded me to negotiate an M5 this Friday. Hope it goes well.
Welcome! Keep us posted.
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Let me ask you guys a question since most of you seem to be leasing. And by the way I have both a m3 and m5 and love both.

In leasing aren't you trapping yourself into the car for 3 years. Ap these lease payments sound great but your underwater day 1. You can't get out of the car until the residual catches up to the depreciation.

And I will tell you experience on the F10 M5 that the depreciation is significant.

Jeff
Generally you must stay in the car for the 36 months. There are exceptions, but the best you can usually hope for is a pull ahead that puts you at 33 months. Depreciation is another story. These cars are so supported right now that BMW says it "will" be worth over 60% of its new value in 3 years. No way.

Buy it, take the hit. Lease it with factory support, they take part of the hit as I see it.

And while we are talking about depreciation, if you buy the car, you own it. Meaning, if some moron rear-ends you, try to trade the car in at a dealer after moderate body work. HUGE depreciation, etc.

For me leasing works, always has. I just make sure I get what I really want and enjoy!
For sure, the higher residual is great as long as you ride it to the end.
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For sure, the higher residual is great as long as you ride it to the end.
No idea how old you are, but I must also say, as I age I can handle the 3 year lease no problem. When I was in my 20's?? OMG, if a new button was added to the console I traded in for it. LOL
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For sure, the higher residual is great as long as you ride it to the end.
No idea how old you are, but I must also say, as I age I can handle the 3 year lease no problem. When I was in my 20's?? OMG, if a new button was added to the console I traded in for it. LOL
I've been the reverse because the older I've gotten my financial situation had improved. So I went from an average hold period of 3 years to 6 months now!LOL!!! It's actually sad...
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Got my numbers back from Steve Thomas and they are pretty awesome. Gonna sleep on it but i think ill be placing an order. Pretty close to the same as an m4 lease right now...
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Base M3 with no packages or options was around 900/month. With exec and 20" wheels, it's 970/month.
For an "M5" w/exec and 20" I came up with $1079.38 including 9% tax and with MSD (10k/36). But that didn't include MACO (varies on market) or training ($184), and with an approximate invoice price of $94,790.25 on a $101,925 msrp (.93*101925) and minus $1500 build cash.

How did you come up w/$970?
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Yup, the Model Year 2017 should be in production from about July/August 2016 to May/June 2017. Then the wait for the G30 M5. The G30 M5 will be a 2019 Model Year and should theoretically be out summer/fall of 2018. Don't know if the American market will have to wait a year like they did for the F10 M5. If that is the case, Americans won't get the G30 M5 until summer/fall of 2019, but it would be a 2020 model. Sounds crazy just thinking about it huh? Imagine yourself saying, yeah I just bought a 2020 M5. Lol! Sounds like we should have M5's that can fly by then.
So you think M is still pissing around with lagged development cycles, instead of co-development cycles like they did with the X5M, M4 and M6 (6 month lag vs 2 year lag)?

If that's the case, then I will buy an AMG or Porsche instead. Don't see the point in waiting 2 years to buy an out of date chassis. The only reason I did it this time is because the AMG offering was shit. However it seems like the next gen of AMGs which are now coming out are going to be pretty cool. They even have HUD now.
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OP, be warned. Stepping into the F10 M5 from your na V8 M3, u will find yourself having to drive at much higher speeds for the M5 to come alive. Due to the mountain of torque, the M5 can feel rather lazy in day to day use. Push it well beyond licence loosing speed, and it's a complete beast. That's why it's more dangerous
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