Moving to the dark side

phil_ · 04-13-2017, 06:27 AM

Well after 3 BMW's (E90 335, E60 M5 and F10 M5) I've decided to move to the dark side.

The F90 M5 is quite a ways out and all this automatic talk has me pretty bummed out. Re-using the same engine is disappointing too. I'm really hoping BMW does something special with it but will wait and see.

In the meantime I signed a deal for a 2012 Porsche Panamera Turbo S. Basalt black metallic on black full leather. 20" turbo wheels. 30,000 miles / 45,000km.

CPO for 2 years unlimited km / miles and in Canada CPO is renewable up to 10 years from in service date.

Car is being shipped cross-country so now the wait begins

VoytekM5 · 04-13-2017, 09:05 AM

I went from panny turbo to m5. The panny is much more refined and a lot faster.

My buddy had a turbo s. Night and day between the turbo and turbo s. Good call. You'll love it!

fkim119 · 04-13-2017, 12:23 PM

Great choice! I also went from the Panamera to the M5. The panny feels like a precision scalpel compared to the M5! You will love it!

apexlocator · 04-13-2017, 01:30 PM

I could never get over the Pan's looks, why I went with the M5.

The new Sport Turismo, on the other hand,....wow...

phil_ · 04-13-2017, 01:55 PM

Look wise it's certainly not everyone's cup of tea. I personally like the look, its nicer in person that in pictures. Lighter colors look better but I love black too much. As I read somewhere black is not a color but a hobby

The new model is georgeous but can't swing the $230,000 CDN price tag.

Loft23 · 04-13-2017, 05:48 PM

Congrats... waiting on my '18 991.2 Carrera 2S.

alvinabed · 04-14-2017, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Loft23

Congrats... waiting on my '18 991.2 Carrera 2S.

U'll love c2s.. great choice.. why not the gts instead?

Loft23 · 04-14-2017, 04:33 AM

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U'll love c2s.. great choice.. why not the gts instead?

I did consider it, but I'm not a fan of Alcantara. My configuration is pretty much a GTS minus the 30hp power kit. The 991.2 C2S has already been tested to do 0-60 in 3.1s and 30hp only adds to top speed.

phil_ · 04-14-2017, 06:28 AM

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Originally Posted by Loft23

Congrats... waiting on my '18 991.2 Carrera 2S.

Congrats! When is it due?

I love the 911, maybe someday as a 2nd car.

Loft23 · 04-14-2017, 11:41 AM

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Originally Posted by phil_

Congrats! When is it due?

I love the 911, maybe someday as a 2nd car.

Should be in Aug / Sept. Waiting on the build date as it is an '18 and I think 4/7 was the last that you could order a 17, and those were GTS' only. All other '17 build allocations were already filled.

2016-M5 · 04-15-2017, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by VoytekM5

I went from panny turbo to m5. The panny is much more refined and a lot faster.

I did'nt think they we're a lot faster??

Mkai0 · 04-15-2017, 06:51 AM

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Originally Posted by 2016-M5

I did'nt think they we're a lot faster??

Maybe seat of the pants faster. Lol.

Fundguy1 · 04-15-2017, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by 2016-M5

I did'nt think they we're a lot faster??

Faster at the launch.

phil_ · 04-15-2017, 07:19 AM

Exactly what I expected for a rolling race. Both have similar HP and weight. The Porsche's AWD loss is probably to blame.

Having owned both an E60 M5 and F10 M5 not many cars compare 50-250km/h.

0-60 would definitely go to the Porsche. 3.6s is claimed but I've seen 3.2s from magazines.

Honestly anything above 500hp is fine with me. I don't track my cars and the fear of doing jail time keeps me in check.

Fundguy1 · 04-15-2017, 08:53 AM

Jail for speeding? A bit draconian wouldn't you say.

phil_ · 04-15-2017, 09:03 AM

Not these days. Don't several states throw you in jail for anything above 30mph
?

For 50km/h (30mph) over Ontario will fine you $2000-$10,000 on the spot, suspend your license and get a court date. They crush your car if you're caught racing.

phil_ · 04-15-2017, 09:13 AM

In Quebec, dangerous driving (Excessive speeding is included) is a criminal offense. That can carry a $5000 fine or 6 month in jail.

Fundguy1 · 04-15-2017, 04:56 PM

That's legitimately insane speeding laws.

Fundguy1 · 04-15-2017, 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_

Not these days. Don't several states throw you in jail for anything above 30mph
?

For 50km/h (30mph) over Ontario will fine you $2000-$10,000 on the spot, suspend your license and get a court date. They crush your car if you're caught racing.

Not that I'm aware of. Been pulled over at 120+ a couple ties. They can ony take your car if you are using it to transport dealer amounts+ of drugs.

Fundguy1 · 04-15-2017, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_

In Quebec, dangerous driving (Excessive speeding is included) is a criminal offense. That can carry a $5000 fine or 6 month in jail.

Speeding is a misdemeanor. Only driving intoxicated is a felony. It carries the harshest penalty. 6 months no license and $1000 fine. Speeding at high speeds expect a few hundred.

Herofmine · 04-24-2017, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by phil_

Not these days. Don't several states throw you in jail for anything above 30mph
?

For 50km/h (30mph) over Ontario will fine you $2000-$10,000 on the spot, suspend your license and get a court date. They crush your car if you're caught racing.

Got pulled over back in days doing 120 on 65, actually speed was 140

:, $400 ticket and 4 points no jail or anything like that.

I had my lesson and never got ticket after that.

Vic55 · 04-24-2017, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Fundguy1

Speeding is a misdemeanor. Only driving intoxicated is a felony. It carries the harshest penalty. 6 months no license and $1000 fine. Speeding at high speeds expect a few hundred.

Its only an infraction in CA--- it has to get to a "reckless" level to gain the misdemeanor nameplate. State by state does vary.

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phil_ First Lieutenant 58 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Panamera Turbo S Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Moving to the dark side Well after 3 BMW's (E90 335, E60 M5 and F10 M5) I've decided to move to the dark side. The F90 M5 is quite a ways out and all this automatic talk has me pretty bummed out. Re-using the same engine is disappointing too. I'm really hoping BMW does something special with it but will wait and see. In the meantime I signed a deal for a 2012 Porsche Panamera Turbo S. Basalt black metallic on black full leather. 20" turbo wheels. 30,000 miles / 45,000km. CPO for 2 years unlimited km / miles and in Canada CPO is renewable up to 10 years from in service date. Car is being shipped cross-country so now the wait begins __________________ Retired: '13 M5, '08 M5, '08 335
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VoytekM5 Second Lieutenant 65 Rep 224 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: Chicago iTrader: (2)	I went from panny turbo to m5. The panny is much more refined and a lot faster. My buddy had a turbo s. Night and day between the turbo and turbo s. Good call. You'll love it!
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fkim119 First Lieutenant 181 Rep 388 Posts Drives: 17 Porsche Panamera Turbo Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Irvine, CA iTrader: (4)	Great choice! I also went from the Panamera to the M5. The panny feels like a precision scalpel compared to the M5! You will love it! __________________ 21' Bentley Bentayga SPEED 21' BMW Alpina XB7 22' Cadillac Escalade ESV 22' Porsche Cayenne Turbo 24' Porsche GT4RS on order
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phil_ First Lieutenant 58 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Panamera Turbo S Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Look wise it's certainly not everyone's cup of tea. I personally like the look, its nicer in person that in pictures. Lighter colors look better but I love black too much. As I read somewhere black is not a color but a hobby The new model is georgeous but can't swing the $230,000 CDN price tag.
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phil_ First Lieutenant 58 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Panamera Turbo S Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Exactly what I expected for a rolling race. Both have similar HP and weight. The Porsche's AWD loss is probably to blame. Having owned both an E60 M5 and F10 M5 not many cars compare 50-250km/h. 0-60 would definitely go to the Porsche. 3.6s is claimed but I've seen 3.2s from magazines. Honestly anything above 500hp is fine with me. I don't track my cars and the fear of doing jail time keeps me in check. __________________ Retired: '13 M5, '08 M5, '08 335
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Fundguy1 Major General 2031 Rep 8,339 Posts Drives: 335 e93 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Orlando, fl iTrader: (0)	Jail for speeding? A bit draconian wouldn't you say.
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phil_ First Lieutenant 58 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Panamera Turbo S Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	Not these days. Don't several states throw you in jail for anything above 30mph ? For 50km/h (30mph) over Ontario will fine you $2000-$10,000 on the spot, suspend your license and get a court date. They crush your car if you're caught racing. __________________ Retired: '13 M5, '08 M5, '08 335
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phil_ First Lieutenant 58 Rep 318 Posts Drives: Panamera Turbo S Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Canada iTrader: (1)	In Quebec, dangerous driving (Excessive speeding is included) is a criminal offense. That can carry a $5000 fine or 6 month in jail. __________________ Retired: '13 M5, '08 M5, '08 335
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