804 HP M6??

gnhm3 · 02-13-2015, 02:36 PM

PP performance is claiming 804HP from an F1x M6 with catless downpipes and a ecu tune. What do you guys think about this?

AstonMartian777 · 02-13-2015, 04:48 PM

I think they are full of sh!t

Green-Eggs · 02-13-2015, 06:25 PM

Recently spoke to a friend of mine from Indonesia (does not work in automotive) which has PP-Performance. He said his M6 makes 797hp on the dyno. I asked for a copy of the dyno sheet. Curious to know what kind of dyno.

boots · 02-13-2015, 07:35 PM

sounds like ham green-eggs!

M6-Coupe · 02-13-2015, 11:20 PM

630 HP at wheel is measurable and then 790 p-eng at crank!!! 20% drivetrain loss for RWD BMW???

Doesn't make sense ...
If they have measured 630 WHP then 700-750 HP at engine can be feasible

Green-Eggs · 02-14-2015, 12:01 PM

Would be nice to understand that horsepower rating better.

ARC550 · 02-15-2015, 10:24 AM

Relax guys! Ahhahaha I spoke to their shop a few weeks ago in regards to tuning solutions for the n63tu/s63Tu etc.. Their dyno reads CRANK HP*" so yea correction factor of about 15%-20% and Bam!

gmd2003 · 02-15-2015, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by ARC550

Relax guys! Ahhahaha I spoke to their shop a few weeks ago in regards to tuning solutions for the n63tu/s63Tu etc.. Their dyno reads CRANK HP*" so yea correction factor of about 15%-20% and Bam!

Problem is our drivetrain loss is closer to 12% . People use 20% to make big numbers . 800 hp is total BS .

boots · 02-15-2015, 02:53 PM

^^^^this^^^^

Boostedm514 · 02-21-2015, 03:55 PM

Bullshit for sure considering 6speeds with jb4 and full downpipes and straight pipes make 580 ish on mustang DYnos 800 way far fetched

Green-Eggs · 02-22-2015, 12:33 AM

Seems quite a few cars in Europe, Australia & Asia have the tune. O2 sensors are turned off & the 155mph governor is removed. It dates back almost 1 year.

JetBee · 02-22-2015, 08:10 PM

I believe those numbers are on the crank not wheel...

gnhm3 · 02-23-2015, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by JetBee

I believe those numbers are on the crank not wheel...

Correct. I don't think those numbers are exaggerated at the crank...

Quicksilver72 · 02-23-2015, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ARC550

Relax guys! Ahhahaha I spoke to their shop a few weeks ago in regards to tuning solutions for the n63tu/s63Tu etc.. Their dyno reads CRANK HP*" so yea correction factor of about 15%-20% and Bam!

Don't think so. They are measuring RWHP and calculating crank HP. Only real way to measure crank HP is with an engine dyno.

ARC550 · 02-23-2015, 10:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver72

Don't think so. They are measuring RWHP and calculating crank HP. Only real way to measure crank HP is with an engine dyno.

I agree! And your absolutely right, I'm simply saying I spoke to them on the phone and their techs said to me that their Dynos are for crank Hp. I had them elaborate and they simply said. " if it was to the wheels it would be about 15% less" I thanked them for their time and called it a day.

M6-Coupe · 02-24-2015, 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by ARC550

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Originally Posted by Quicksilver72

Don't think so. They are measuring RWHP and calculating crank HP. Only real way to measure crank HP is with an engine dyno.

I agree! And your absolutely right, I'm simply saying I spoke to them on the phone and their techs said to me that their Dynos are for crank Hp. I had them elaborate and they simply said. " if it was to the wheels it would be about 15% less" I thanked them for their time and called it a day.

But the difference between 800 HP (Crank) and 630 WHP is >20% and this is the point. Noway this RWD drivetrain loses 20%... not today ... maybe 10 years ago. Even today's AWDs with much more components do not lose 20%....

Erik K. · 02-24-2015, 05:46 AM

This is what was talking about in this topic...

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthr...1066353&page=2

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ARC550 Major 446 Rep 1,300 Posts Drives: M3, X5, 720s, X5, 750xi Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: New York iTrader: (0)	Relax guys! Ahhahaha I spoke to their shop a few weeks ago in regards to tuning solutions for the n63tu/s63Tu etc.. Their dyno reads CRANK HP*" so yea correction factor of about 15%-20% and Bam!
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Boostedm514 Banned 14 Rep 137 Posts Drives: Turbo m5 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Around iTrader: (0)	Bullshit for sure considering 6speeds with jb4 and full downpipes and straight pipes make 580 ish on mustang DYnos 800 way far fetched
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Green-Eggs Lieutenant Colonel 1431 Rep 1,612 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (3)	Seems quite a few cars in Europe, Australia & Asia have the tune. O2 sensors are turned off & the 155mph governor is removed. It dates back almost 1 year.
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Erik K. Enlisted Member 2 Rep 45 Posts Drives: BMW M3 Coupé e36 3.2 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: The Netherlands iTrader: (0)	This is what was talking about in this topic... http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthr...1066353&page=2
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