Tired Of Drivtrain Malfunction

MpowerMike · 06-09-2016, 10:59 PM

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1271820

Pleas help!

allmotor_2000 · 06-10-2016, 10:13 AM

It's not a misfire. Scan with ISTA and you will see it is a rod 5-7 DCT error. I assume this happens ONLY in 4th gear to redline just before shift into 5th?

Try in Auto-1 or Auto-2 mode and see if it doesn't happen. Also try S1 and S2 mode.

MissionPerformance · 06-10-2016, 10:59 AM

Did you get a chance to have a full vehicle scanned? What codes is your generic tool showing exactly?
You said you replaced your spark plugs. Did you gap them when doing so?

MpowerMike · 06-10-2016, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

It's not a misfire. Scan with ISTA and you will see it is a rod 5-7 DCT error. I assume this happens ONLY in 4th gear to redline just before shift into 5th?

Try in Auto-1 or Auto-2 mode and see if it doesn't happen. Also try S1 and S2 mode.

Yes it happens when I hit 4th gear redline and shift to 5th , so basically it never goes into 5th but to limp mode. Try the second time and hit the rev limiter and bounced off in 4th just to see and again it went into limp mode. I would drive in max settings so MDM S3 . Never tried it in lower settings . You think it's the clutch? I'll try scanning it soon with ISTA. Also is gapping the plugs a must?

MpowerMike · 06-10-2016, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by MissionPerformance

Did you get a chance to have a full vehicle scanned? What codes is your generic tool showing exactly?
You said you replaced your spark plugs. Did you gap them when doing so?

I'll scan it one more time on Monday and I will post the picture. I never gapped my plugs. Why should I?

MissionPerformance · 06-10-2016, 12:18 PM

Stock gap is too big for 600+ whp. Yes you can run the stock gap sometimes and some customers get away using it, but on all of our 680+ whp cars, we reduce the gap to 0.022

allmotor_2000 · 06-10-2016, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MpowerMike

Yes it happens when I hit 4th gear redline and shift to 5th , so basically it never goes into 5th but to limp mode. Try the second time and hit the rev limiter and bounced off in 4th just to see and again it went into limp mode. I would drive in max settings so MDM S3 . Never tried it in lower settings . You think it's the clutch? I'll try scanning it soon with ISTA. Also is gapping the plugs a must?

Try in auto mode or S1/S2 and see if it happens. If that's the case I guarantee its the DCT. It's not the clutch... its the DCT. Need to re-adapt the DCT and likely throw a rod 5-7 code which can only be ready via ISTA.

Unless your gap is > 0.030" don't worry about plugs for your power level.

Msizzle · 06-11-2016, 12:06 AM

def gap the plugs, happened to me also and was mostly in 4th gear at high rpm. I gapped some new plugs and never came back

MCarsFan · 06-11-2016, 07:03 AM

I sent you a pm.

At the very least, gap your plugs down.

If gapping plugs doesn't solve your issue, flash back to stock and load a new tune. The older tunes were known to have issues.

MpowerMike · 06-11-2016, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by MCarsFan

I sent you a pm.

At the very least, gap your plugs down.

If gapping plugs doesn't solve your issue, flash back to stock and load a new tune. The older tunes were known to have issues.

Yes got the PM, thanks for all the info!

MpowerMike · 06-11-2016, 10:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Msizzle

def gap the plugs, happened to me also and was mostly in 4th gear at high rpm. I gapped some new plugs and never came back

Yes that's the first thing I'm doing on Monday!

MpowerMike · 06-11-2016, 10:26 PM

Guys is gapping the plugs .17 to .18 fine ? After this is fixed I'm adding meth with jb4 bcm.

MCarsFan · 06-12-2016, 06:51 AM

If you're going to do meth and bcm, think about your clutch. I'm at 690/690 and my stock clutch is almost toast. Also, I would probably load a new file as the new tunes produce more power.
Check out frozenman and allmotor_2000

MpowerMike · 06-17-2016, 09:51 PM

got my car flashed back to stock and it's running fine, drive the car hard and no misfires or limpmode. I will get it reflashed by ess soon with a new file . I hope everything will go good this time.

MCarsFan · 06-17-2016, 10:10 PM

That's excellent

MpowerMike · 06-17-2016, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by MCarsFan

That's excellent

Did you hear about the burble mode some cars are running with? I know gintani is offering it and I think it sounds nice.

MCarsFan · 06-18-2016, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by MpowerMike

Did you hear about the burble mode some cars are running with? I know gintani is offering it and I think it sounds nice.

Yes, I just wasn't sure what impact this might have from a tune perspective on the motor..sure it's fine though!

13M5F10 · 06-18-2016, 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by MpowerMike

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Originally Posted by MCarsFan

That's excellent

Did you hear about the burble mode some cars are running with? I know gintani is offering it and I think it sounds nice.

ACM does it too ... Like MCarsFan said, not sure what the impact is. It has to do with the way the waste gates open/close.

MpowerMike · 06-18-2016, 03:09 PM

Update:

Another problem!, when looking at the picture I uploaded of the codes I've been getting on my car the DME internal fault controller for oxygen sensor .... Code Has not gone away. I knew I would still have the engine light on when I flashed back to stock because of catless down pipes but when I scanned the car just to just to see , the code still came up along with the no cats code. ESS is saying I have a faulty ECU/ damaged circuit board and that if we flash with a new file I will still get the same problems I had before. Ess is saying its That particular code that is causing these problems with the car misfiring and going into limpmodes. When resetting the codes they come back rightaway at startup .

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Msizzle Lieutenant 165 Rep 402 Posts Drives: 2013 M6 Coupe Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Long Island, NY iTrader: (0)	def gap the plugs, happened to me also and was mostly in 4th gear at high rpm. I gapped some new plugs and never came back
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MpowerMike Major 360 Rep 1,123 Posts Drives: 2012 IB BMW M5 Join Date: May 2014 Location: T.O. Canada iTrader: (1)	Guys is gapping the plugs .17 to .18 fine ? After this is fixed I'm adding meth with jb4 bcm.
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MpowerMike Major 360 Rep 1,123 Posts Drives: 2012 IB BMW M5 Join Date: May 2014 Location: T.O. Canada iTrader: (1)	got my car flashed back to stock and it's running fine, drive the car hard and no misfires or limpmode. I will get it reflashed by ess soon with a new file . I hope everything will go good this time.
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MpowerMike Major 360 Rep 1,123 Posts Drives: 2012 IB BMW M5 Join Date: May 2014 Location: T.O. Canada iTrader: (1)	Update: Another problem!, when looking at the picture I uploaded of the codes I've been getting on my car the DME internal fault controller for oxygen sensor .... Code Has not gone away. I knew I would still have the engine light on when I flashed back to stock because of catless down pipes but when I scanned the car just to just to see , the code still came up along with the no cats code. ESS is saying I have a faulty ECU/ damaged circuit board and that if we flash with a new file I will still get the same problems I had before. Ess is saying its That particular code that is causing these problems with the car misfiring and going into limpmodes. When resetting the codes they come back rightaway at startup .
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