Motor Trend Video: 2014 M5 Competition vs 2014 E63 AMG S

DMC126 · 10-23-2013, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Lual

Do you really care? Aren t you happy with the car? Would any of you make a different purchase decision? Not me. I drive what I like, not what others think may best in class.

No, I do not care. My personal feelings and impressions are what matter to me.

I don't know where these guys come from or where they are going to be in six months.

elitex · 10-23-2013, 08:48 PM

Did he really say that E class is better than 5 series? What is he smoking?
15:33. Crazy. I've never believed a word he's ever said before and this just confirms it.

DMC126 · 10-23-2013, 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by mstmng

so u cannot get e63 rwd in states at all... but that's good, people who know how to drive RWD and like it, will have less options and will end up with M5

pit them together, no problem, but say more good stuff about m5, which is fair, smaller engine delivers as much power as an engine with 1.1L more and RWD accelerates as quick as AWD

thats an amazing

for an M5

why no test where m5 would win?
mercs are for old papas, i hv been always comparing them to sofas
the only 2 mercs, which are defo much better than bmw:
new S-class, but we never know what bmw is preparing
G-class, it has its classy unbeatable look

DCT, MDM and Interior kills any amg

also if he wants to come home alive, during canyon driving, know your limits, awd is only fun on icy/snowy roads, not even... just my opinion

Why get invested to any degree in an automotive review? These reviews mean less than nothing and are designed to stir your emotions. It worked!

Would you really expect a world class car maker not to make a competitive car?

Enjoy and cherish what you own and leave the rest for internet fan boys.

Spinny02 · 10-23-2013, 09:11 PM

Agreed! Wont buy an E-Class....... Cant wait to see what M has in store for the next M5 =). There is no hiding that M has become a bit lax compared to their history.

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Originally Posted by Tom C

Competition improves the breed.

URBAN LEGEND · 10-23-2013, 09:51 PM

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Originally Posted by DMC126

Why get invested to any degree in an automotive review? These reviews mean less than nothing and are designed to stir your emotions. It worked!

Would you really expect a world class car maker not to make a competitive car?

Enjoy and cherish what you own and leave the rest for internet fan boys.

And yet you are one of the internet fan boys...

URBAN LEGEND · 10-23-2013, 09:52 PM

People please don't be hurt. In this review the Benz is faster. Period. Don't bd the guy quoted on the Benz forums. Great work MB! Simple.

pkimM3r · 10-24-2013, 12:48 AM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Carlos lago would have been better. Lieberman tries too hard...

And totally lacks the driving skills necessary to review these thpes of cars!!

EdM5 · 10-24-2013, 01:35 AM

Bunch of clowns.
Ask any german (or british) car mag and they will tell you that the M5 wins hands down.

The AMG is a great car though.

JOHNBMWM5 · 10-24-2013, 02:09 AM

Some thread on here mentioned Mercedes were "ahead" of BMW in the technology department

Thats news to me, my next door neighbour just got the latest E Class and the tech in that is crap.

I don't care how fast the Mercedes is or could be, I do not think their build quality and technology is anywhere near BMW.
EDIT: and as for servicing costs, BMW hands down.

1BMW335 · 10-24-2013, 03:50 AM

I think both cars are great, but I just love seeing BMW owners hating on the competition when a review doesn't go their way. If it was reversed, everyone here will be so proud that its their car that came out on top.

Performance - AMG
Looks - Subjective
Car Tech - BMW
Service - BMW by default, but you can pre-pay your service at Merc and if you know how to bargain, they will throw it in.

I'm a little disappointed at the MCT transmission in the AMG, but I'm sure it's faster than an 8-speed ZF everyone seems to love on many BMW's.

I'm cross shopping both and I'm torn between the two.

mstmng · 10-24-2013, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 1BMW335

I think both cars are great, but I just love seeing BMW owners hating on the competition when a review doesn't go their way. If it was reversed, everyone here will be so proud that its their car that came out on top.

Performance - AMG
Looks - Subjective
Car Tech - BMW
Service - BMW by default, but you can pre-pay your service at Merc and if you know how to bargain, they will throw it in.

I'm a little disappointed at the MCT transmission in the AMG, but I'm sure it's faster than an 8-speed ZF everyone seems to love on many BMW's.

I'm cross shopping both and I'm torn between the two.

just shop for an M and u will be one of us!

RPiM5 · 10-24-2013, 06:02 AM

Great video! I'm glad these types of comparison are starting to come out.

I still don't care for the new 14 E63 AMG, no matter how fast or how much better it handles. I will say though that our M5's will start to lose the hp wars seeing how easily tunable the M157's are. I really don't like that.

Also, I wonder what further changes and improvements BMW is going to make for the 2015 M5 and beyond. Hmmm...

///man · 10-24-2013, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by RPiM5

Also, I wonder what further changes and improvements BMW is going to make for the 2015 M5 and beyond. Hmmm...

Anything short of AWD (à la FF preferably) as an option, less weight (more use of CF), and they are looking at being even further behind the competition.

URBAN LEGEND · 10-24-2013, 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 1BMW335

I think both cars are great, but I just love seeing BMW owners hating on the competition when a review doesn't go their way. If it was reversed, everyone here will be so proud that its their car that came out on top.

amazing right?

dhirm5 · 10-24-2013, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1BMW335

Performance - AMG
Looks - Subjective
Car Tech - BMW
Service - BMW by default, but you can pre-pay your service at Merc and if you know how to bargain, they will throw it in.

Transmission - BMW

The Benz doesn't do it for me either, but there's no denying it's a beast.

skrambles297 · 10-24-2013, 07:04 AM

The Merc is seriously impressive - those numbers are ridiculous and it must just destroy tyres. But, for me, the e63 still just looks like a big, awkward bloaty bling-wagon, whereas the m5 (even my modest plain vanilla non-CP version) looks far more sleek and is just the perfect balance between rampaging beast and discreet cruiser.

I do, however, have a soft spot for the c63 and if they ever make the interior of that car as nice as an m3 or m5, I'll be in trouble.

URBAN LEGEND · 10-24-2013, 07:09 AM

I'm sure that the AMG message boards are laughing at some on this thread saying how butt hurt the BMW guys are.

I won't be quoted in a negative manner. Faster is beautiful. The Benz is faster...

elitex · 10-24-2013, 07:32 AM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I'm sure that the AMG message boards are laughing at some on this thread saying how butt hurt the BMW guys are.

I won't be quoted in a negative manner. Faster is beautiful. The Benz is faster...

It's faster because of awd, M5 is faster in a side by side race. I think there's a video out there already.

elitex · 10-24-2013, 07:35 AM

URBAN LEGEND · 10-24-2013, 08:06 AM

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Originally Posted by elitex

It's faster because of awd, M5 is faster in a side by side race. I think there's a video out there already.

A tune will be easily had for the Benz. M5? In the MY 2090.

vdubpower · 10-24-2013, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I'm sure that the AMG message boards are laughing at some on this thread saying how butt hurt the BMW guys are.

I won't be quoted in a negative manner. Faster is beautiful. The Benz is faster...

Yes its a very proud day for us. LOL

Both cars are great. There is no doubt.

Y is it the m5 can't be tuned in the same manner as the amg. I wonder if this is the same for Audi's engine

B-1Pilot · 10-24-2013, 09:21 AM

This M-B is fugly. I'd rather have a 528 than it. If you want this engine/drivetrain, there are better looking AMG offerings.

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RPiM5 Major General 2868 Rep 7,885 Posts Drives: Black M5 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth 616 iTrader: (0)	Great video! I'm glad these types of comparison are starting to come out. I still don't care for the new 14 E63 AMG, no matter how fast or how much better it handles. I will say though that our M5's will start to lose the hp wars seeing how easily tunable the M157's are. I really don't like that. Also, I wonder what further changes and improvements BMW is going to make for the 2015 M5 and beyond. Hmmm... __________________
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