Phenomenal Tires

DrKevM5 · 09-17-2014, 01:34 PM

Just replaced my front Michelins at 20,233!! And that's with two track events because I picked up a nail in my track setup (Shout out to Boots for the pricing hookup). Cords on my front inside edges due to dialed in negative camber, but the rears are probably good for another 2k miles. Not sure what Michelin puts in these PSS's, but they're amazing!

Stash21 · 09-17-2014, 03:25 PM

They are the best tyre I have ever had.

Bokke · 09-17-2014, 03:51 PM

Agreed, to date best ever!

RPiM5 · 09-17-2014, 04:16 PM

Dude, thanks for sharing. Yeah I have an issue with too much negative camber, but on just one of my wheels. I have the same problem as you, inside edge of the tire is down to the chord, getting it fixed this Friday. I forget are you running lowering springs and/or Comp Pack Sway Bars also? I'm starting to wonder if this is a Comp Pack Sway Bar issue for those of us that upgraded on our 2013 M5's.

By the way, I'm approaching 25,000 miles on my rear tires and they still don't need to be replaced. My fronts are different, hit a bad pothole a while back and had to get one tire replaced prematurely.

Used2be · 09-17-2014, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RPiM5

I'm starting to wonder if this is a Comp Pack Sway Bar issue for those of us that upgraded on our 2013 M5's.

The sway bars won't affect the tire wear. Toe and camber do of course, and just plain old hard driving.

DrKevM5 · 09-17-2014, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by RPiM5

Dude, thanks for sharing. Yeah I have an issue with too much negative camber, but on just one of my wheels. I have the same problem as you, inside edge of the tire is down to the chord, getting it fixed this Friday. I forget are you running lowering springs and/or Comp Pack Sway Bars also? I'm starting to wonder if this is a Comp Pack Sway Bar issue for those of us that upgraded on our 2013 M5's.

By the way, I'm approaching 25,000 miles on my rear tires and they still don't need to be replaced. My fronts are different, hit a bad pothole a while back and had to get one tire replaced prematurely.

That's correct, Dave, I am running the Comp Bars with the springs. The springs definitely gave us more negative camber. It was noticed by my tech after the bar install that one of my fronts were off more than the other. I had him realign it to the lower measurement (I forget what that was). I'm willing to live with the additional camber, as it made a ton of difference on the track.

RPiM5 · 09-17-2014, 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DrKevM5

That's correct, Dave, I am running the Comp Bars with the springs. It definitely gave us more negative camber. It was noticed by my tech after the bar install that one of my fronts were off more than the other. I had him realign it to the lower measurement (I forget what that was). I'm willing to live with the additional camber, as it made a ton of difference on the track.

Sending you a PM.

RPiM5 · 09-17-2014, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Used2be

The sway bars won't affect the tire wear. Toe and camber do of course, and just plain old hard driving.

Yes I think you are right. I think it's a lowering spring issue. The springs I am using are causing more negative camber I'm pretty sure. Thanks.

johntomferg · 09-17-2014, 05:58 PM

Saw the same negative camber issue on stock springs and some cord show when I replaced the first set. Might not be your springs...

boots · 09-17-2014, 06:45 PM

Your very welcome drkev. I had the same problem after installing springs so I know Dave is right. t it was caused by a shit alignment. My second set was too much air pressure from the track. I didn't know my pressure went up to 48 psi. I put them back to 33 for the track. That's why I was sliding. Anyway. I have a new set and can't wait to hit the track. But I want another set to do it with. I can vouch for myself , Dave and drkev. We drive our cars hard.

shahano · 09-18-2014, 01:21 AM

I have gone through more rear tires than I can remember. At least ten sets, and I am at 28,000 miles.

RPiM5 · 09-18-2014, 05:52 AM

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Originally Posted by shahano

I have gone through more rear tires than I can remember. At least ten sets, and I am at 28,000 miles.

That's a lot of burnouts.

ftedd · 09-18-2014, 08:26 AM

They are great tires, so long as you don't get a flat...with no spare and not being run flats, this is the remedy

wrsbmw · 09-18-2014, 08:33 AM

BTDT with the Porsche but lucky to get to the dealership each time with the M5. I have had three rears replaced on my m5 due to nails or screws or potholes and one replaced on the Porsche. Glad I got the tire insurance.

That's also what it looks like when your fuel pump dies.

shahano · 09-18-2014, 08:42 AM

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Originally Posted by RPiM5

That's a lot of burnouts.

All mountain roads with soft tarmac in Lebanon = Heaven for sideways driving

MichaelJohn · 09-18-2014, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by shahano

All mountain roads with soft tarmac in Lebanon = Heaven for sideways driving

You average less than 3000 miles on your tires? Do you drift around EVERY corner?

You're having a helluva lot more fun than I am. 8,000 miles on mine and they look almost new.

Fantasm · 09-18-2014, 02:01 PM

I average about 5000-6000 miles for my rears. I'm onto my 3rd set of rears at 10K miles.
Replaced my originals at 5K miles and its almost time again, but this time fronts too.

10K miles - 3rd set of rears, 2nd set of fronts.

Mscarpa · 09-18-2014, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by shahano

I have gone through more rear tires than I can remember. At least ten sets, and I am at 28,000 miles.

Sweet, 10 sets. Too much fun! I think I need to do more of that.....

qcocjnoralsm · 09-19-2014, 04:34 AM

I had the same problem after installing springs so I know Dave is right. t it was caused by a shit alignment.

shahano · 09-19-2014, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by MichaelJohn

You average less than 3000 miles on your tires? Do you drift around EVERY corner?

You're having a helluva lot more fun than I am. 8,000 miles on mine and they look almost new.

If anyone ever comes to Lebanon, be sure to let me know. Not sure if my car has been more sideways or more straight

boots · 09-19-2014, 04:40 PM

Closest I can get is Haifa for work.

Fantasm · 09-20-2014, 07:14 AM

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If anyone ever comes to Lebanon, be sure to let me know. Not sure if my car has been more sideways or more straight

Can USA citizen own/buy property in Lebanon now?

09-17-2014, 01:34 PM	#1
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RPiM5 Major General 2873 Rep 7,885 Posts Drives: Black M5 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Earth 616 iTrader: (0)	Dude, thanks for sharing. Yeah I have an issue with too much negative camber, but on just one of my wheels. I have the same problem as you, inside edge of the tire is down to the chord, getting it fixed this Friday. I forget are you running lowering springs and/or Comp Pack Sway Bars also? I'm starting to wonder if this is a Comp Pack Sway Bar issue for those of us that upgraded on our 2013 M5's. By the way, I'm approaching 25,000 miles on my rear tires and they still don't need to be replaced. My fronts are different, hit a bad pothole a while back and had to get one tire replaced prematurely. __________________
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johntomferg Captain 120 Rep 852 Posts Drives: Formerly drove a 13 F10 M5 Join Date: May 2012 Location: Columbia, TN iTrader: (1)	Saw the same negative camber issue on stock springs and some cord show when I replaced the first set. Might not be your springs...
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boots Curve Thrasher 623 Rep 3,773 Posts Drives: 2013 Bmw m5..White/Blk. Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Cypress Tx iTrader: (0)	Your very welcome drkev. I had the same problem after installing springs so I know Dave is right. t it was caused by a shit alignment. My second set was too much air pressure from the track. I didn't know my pressure went up to 48 psi. I put them back to 33 for the track. That's why I was sliding. Anyway. I have a new set and can't wait to hit the track. But I want another set to do it with. I can vouch for myself , Dave and drkev. We drive our cars hard.
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shahano Lieutenant Colonel 231 Rep 1,576 Posts Drives: 21' M2C 6spd ,11' 1M, 88' M3 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: London, UK iTrader: (0)	I have gone through more rear tires than I can remember. At least ten sets, and I am at 28,000 miles.
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Fantasm Lieutenant 39 Rep 475 Posts Drives: SL63 Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Orange County, CA iTrader: (2)	I average about 5000-6000 miles for my rears. I'm onto my 3rd set of rears at 10K miles. Replaced my originals at 5K miles and its almost time again, but this time fronts too. 10K miles - 3rd set of rears, 2nd set of fronts. __________________ NOW: 2011 Ferrari 458, 2014 BMW M5 w/ CompPack, 2014 BMW X1, 2005 BMW M3 with Gintani SC&Meth, 2008 Ducati 1098 BEFORE: 24+ Other Awesome Cars - BYE - My Straight Piped Ferrari 458 (plus other mods): http://goo.gl/2qf5fW
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