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      11-01-2012, 10:53 AM   #243
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I say the best resolution to this entire debacle is bigger lats and a stronger core. I sat in the car a few times as I wait and the seats hug me fine. Yes maybe not track ready but my 911 has the comfort seats and in high speed tracking you slip a little but not a lot - its not worth all this agony!
LOL! I actually went to the gym last night and worked on both my lats and my core.
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      11-01-2012, 07:49 PM   #244
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It's much more likely that BMW intended to include them in all M5s sold in all countries but the U. S. Government wouldn't approve it because the side impact airbags are located in the side bolsters of the seats and if the bolsters move it impacts the safety performance of the airbag.
The M3 has adjustable side bolsters and airbags in the seats. My E60 5-series also has the same. I don't think there's anything inherently uncertifiable about adjustable side bolsters + side airbags.
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      11-01-2012, 08:55 PM   #245
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The M3 has adjustable side bolsters and airbags in the seats. My E60 5-series also has the same. I don't think there's anything inherently uncertifiable about adjustable side bolsters + side airbags.
Inexpensive corvettes have this feature . This is a planning/launch issue not an engineering issue . IMO this feature will be available in the 2014 M5. Therefore it behooves you to lower your investment cost in the 2013 by getting goodwill compensation from BMW.
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      11-01-2012, 09:35 PM   #246
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Guys this position is not one you can win! BMW pulls out a document it's was a US issue, and the case is closed. They may settle on goodwill for repeat customers, other than that it's not worth their time in court. Hate to say it I work for large company this falls on deaf ears the more you complain. Not trying to be crash, but M5's will sell on no matter how much we complained. Good luck anyway.
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Wow I just learned that even a standard (non-M) 6-series has the adjustable side bolsters.
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      11-23-2012, 09:56 PM   #248
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M5's will sell on no matter how much we complained. .
They're sitting on the lots where I live.
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      11-24-2012, 06:53 AM   #249
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[QUOTE=ucla95;13043542]They're sitting on the lots where I live.[/QUIMO

IMO the M5 will not be a barn burner seller. Dealers next MY will I am confident ,be offering alot more than the few percent off MSRP that some did this year to move them. My opinion has nothing to do with the attributes of the car . I enjoy mine very much. The issue in my view is the economy , gas prices vs the M5 MPG and the constantly improving competition( plus I would not be surprised to see enough used 2013's back on the market to make it worth while to select buyers to get a previously owned one).
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So true, and every other brand in the six figure range. Just a question, and ask yourself how many people say well they had the "oil pump" thing so I'm not buying? If your looking for a new car you can get a deal on anything. I'm still smiling when I start it up, and my view it's still a car hope your enjoying yours. True story my cousin just dumped a Bently, and he had a hard time with them with similar issues some of us have seen .....it happens at all levels bro.
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      11-24-2012, 07:06 AM   #251
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They're sitting on the lots where I live.[/QUIMO

IMO the M5 will not be a barn burner seller. Dealers next MY will I am confident ,be offering alot more than the few percent off MSRP that some did this year to move them. My opinion has nothing to do with the attributes of the car . I enjoy mine very much. The issue in my view is the economy , gas prices vs the M5 MPG and the constantly improving competition( plus I would not be surprised to see enough used 2013's back on the market to make it worth while to select buyers to get a previously owned one).
I'm in GA the Porsche, Mercedes lots are full here! Tax increases coming, and people are assessing their finances. Plus I paid ED invoice so It was worth the
trip to Michigan to buy the car. Talking about a bad economy try selling luxury sport cars the heart of American.

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I'm in GA the Porsche, Mercedes lots are full here! Tax increases coming, and people are assessing their finances. Plus I paid ED invoice so It was worth the trip to Michigan to buy the car. Talking about a bad economy try selling luxury sport cars their in the heart of American.
The one varable for the MY 2014 M5 out the door pricing is BMW , meaning its not the first year of production and the typical "managed" supply to create the frency on the launch. But, if BMW were to limit its production that could keep all F10 M5 pricing higher than would otherwise be. My bet is just the opposite. BMW will pump these cars out to dealers next year and dealers in turn knowing that the M5 market is narrow will in turn do what it takes to move'em as fast as they can.
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Good point, but it's still a low production car. Many owners want their car built to their spec. My local dealer has two cars with bad options, and the 19' wheels which is a no go for most. However they have sold a ton of build to spec cars vs. the ordered spec dealer cars. Most of us on this board didn't buy off the lot.
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      11-24-2012, 03:52 PM   #254
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Good point, but it's still a low production car. Many owners want their car built to their spec. My local dealer has two cars with bad options, and the 19' wheels which is a no go for most. However they have sold a ton of build to spec cars vs. the ordered spec dealer cars. Most of us on this board didn't buy off the lot.
Very true. Out of a dozen local dealers, I've seen exactly 1 car that I would shell out the dough to own.

Hence the custom order.
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Hate to say it but we are getting OT here. The lack of adjustable side bolsters is the problem with the car.
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      11-24-2012, 06:21 PM   #256
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Hate to say it but we are getting OT here. The lack of adjustable side bolsters is the problem with the car.
It's ridiculous a car like the M5 doesn't have adjustable side bolsters. BMW should be ashamed.

I have pursued this relentlessly to no avail.
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It's ridiculous a car like the M5 doesn't have adjustable side bolsters. BMW should be ashamed.

I have pursued this relentlessly to no avail.
There is no answer to this but money. My dealer wanted me to try for an agreement to get BMW to retrofit the seat when it comes out next year. I judged that to be a moonshot request and went for money to lower my ownership cost. When the seat does come out you can use the money as a downpayment to retrofit it if it bothers you that much.
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      11-24-2012, 11:03 PM   #258
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There is no answer to this but money. My dealer wanted me to try for an agreement to get BMW to retrofit the seat when it comes out next year. I judged that to be a moonshot request and went for money to lower my ownership cost. When the seat does come out you can use the money as a downpayment to retrofit it if it bothers you that much.
Wait, so you were compensated by BMWNA?
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