It took everything within me to not buy this today

[Simon H]

Originally Posted by Greer

I also agree, the 601 wheels look better!

I also think they suit the car very well, and have a great dish/offset, that is hard to capture on photos. And, according to the official brochure, they are forged.

[6spdterror]

The reasons most dealerships will not have a fully specd car with every single option is simple. Most dealerships (including mine) floor plan their cars, meaning that they dont tie up their money in the inventory....they use the bank's money. Which means that they pay interest on that car everyday that it sits on the lot. If youre a floor planning dealer, you order cars that will sell fast and not sit on your lot and cost too much interest. The more options you order a car with, the more expensive the car gets, the more interest per day you pay, the LESS likely someone will come in a scoop up a 130k sticker M5 vs one "nicely equipped" at 105-110k. Otherwise every dealer would have individual colors with CCB and competition pkgs hanging around the dealership!!
That being said, to order this kind of car at any option level without something as simple as bluetooth or backup camera or navi is simply asinine. Shame on BMW though for not having those options standard. I sell 16k honda civics that ALL come with bluetooth and backup camera as standard equipment even if u get the bargain basement LX model.

[B-1Pilot]

Originally Posted by Simon H

And, according to the official brochure, they are forged.

Source? Everything else seen to date contradicts this. I wish you were right, but suspect otherwise

[richard in NC]

Originally Posted by mstmng

it was missing quite a few things so BMW is unlucky with marketing for u

i don't understand why dealers don't order FULL options to their showrooms...
my friends bought 2 x6m's this year from same dealership
full options: full leather, cameras, ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, best sound system they offer on x6m, etc etc

on the way home both realised there is NO bluetooth!!! WTF???
95k car DOES NOT HAVE BLUETOOTH AS STANDARD OPTION!!! seriously???
when u press TEL on iDrive, nothing happens... why there is a button which does not do anything... its not 118d, even those cars have bluetooth as standard option these days...

showrooms should order FULL SPEC cars, so people can see every single option and maybe then they decide not to wait for a car, just buy it outright... this marketing does not make sense for me

Odd, the bmwusa web site shows it as standard.

[stealth.pilot]

Originally Posted by richard in NC

Odd, the bmwusa web site shows it as standard.

I bet the car had it and this was a case of user error.

[Simon H]

Originally Posted by B-1 Pilot

Source? Everything else seen to date contradicts this. I wish you were right, but suspect otherwise

Hi B-1,
The source is the latest brochure for the "New BMW M5". It describes the 601M wheels as forged in this brochure. Hopes this helps, and is correct.

[dhirm5]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

I bet the car had it and this was a case of user error.

This.

[dhirm5]

Originally Posted by Simon H

Hi B-1,
The source is the latest brochure for the "New BMW M5". It describes the 601M wheels as forged in this brochure. Hopes this helps, and is correct.

This brochure?

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._catalogue.pdf

Here the 343M are listed explicitly as forged, whereas the 601M are simply referred to as "light alloy".

[M54ccibo]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

I had a serious gut check today . I stopped by my local dealer today to get some new air filters installed and a free car wash. I was hanging out in the show room and saw this. Good thing for me it was missing Full Merino Leather, Bang & Olufsen, Carbon Ceramic Brakes, and Aluminum Trace trim or else I woulda driven off with it today! Damn you BMW!!! Your ///Marketing Brainwashing was working on me! Grrr!

Love MCB.

[Simon H]

Originally Posted by dhirm5

This brochure?

http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle..._catalogue.pdf

Here the 343M are listed explicitly as forged, whereas the 601M are simply referred to as "light alloy".

Yes, thats the one, and i can just make out, on pages 22 and 24 of yours, that it does not say forged, when referring to the wheels, but in this UK brochure i have here, it does say they are forged. Where yours says bicolour, ours doesnt say that, it just says forged light alloy wheel. Sorry im not proficient enough to post a copy of this for you, but it does say forged rims for the 601 design.

[avlnch]

Originally Posted by mstmng

it was missing quite a few things so BMW is unlucky with marketing for u

i don't understand why dealers don't order FULL options to their showrooms...
my friends bought 2 x6m's this year from same dealership
full options: full leather, cameras, ventilated seats, heated steering wheel, best sound system they offer on x6m, etc etc

on the way home both realised there is NO bluetooth!!! WTF???
95k car DOES NOT HAVE BLUETOOTH AS STANDARD OPTION!!! seriously???
when u press TEL on iDrive, nothing happens... why there is a button which does not do anything... its not 118d, even those cars have bluetooth as standard option these days...

showrooms should order FULL SPEC cars, so people can see every single option and maybe then they decide not to wait for a car, just buy it outright... this marketing does not make sense for me

Bluetooth settings are somewhat tucked/hidden away. You have to go into the settings menu and set it up through there. However I thought when no phones are paired, and you hit TEL, it gives you a "link" to the BT menu in settings.

[mstmng]

Originally Posted by richard in NC

Odd, the bmwusa web site shows it as standard.

bmw usa web site
we r in UK

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

I bet the car had it and this was a case of user error.

basically u are saying me and couple of my friends who had 2-3-4 bmw's before with exact same idrive are stupid? can use bluetooth in m3/5/6 and cannot use it in x6m? u r cute

[mstmng]

Originally Posted by avlnch

Bluetooth settings are somewhat tucked/hidden away. You have to go into the settings menu and set it up through there. However I thought when no phones are paired, and you hit TEL, it gives you a "link" to the BT menu in settings.

exactly! you press TEL button nothing happens
and no TELEPHONE/CONTACTS submenu in main menu

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by B-1 Pilot

Source? Everything else seen to date contradicts this. I wish you were right, but suspect otherwise

UK F10 M5 LCI pricing guide specifies the 601Ms as forged, however, could be a error & also highly unlikely that BMW would create forged 601Ms only for the UK market.

Apologies in advance for poor quality (2nd generation scan).

[B-1Pilot]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

UK F10 M5 LCI pricing guide specifies the 601Ms as forged, however, could be a error & also highly unlikely that BMW would create forged 601Ms only for the UK market.

Apologies in advance for poor quality (2nd generation scan).

WOW, thanks.

So the controversy continues. This does not match what BMWUSA has told other board members.

In either case I love the look of the 601s, even more so in person. I can deal with the weight increases, and if they are really forged they will be stronger and should stay in round better.

[lincvert]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

Yes. Sterling. . They also had an Alpine White, and a Sakhir Orange M5, all of which we're missing Full Leather. Lame.

Looks like you didn't find Ferrari, Maserati, Lamborghini of Washington which is less than 2 blocks away...or did you? I was just at Sterling a few weeks ago and there were no M5s on the lot. I'll have to swing by for a look this week. I'm itching to swap out the 550i (stage 16).

[Spinny02]

our rear 601 looks like its 1/2" wider than your UK version unless I am reading it wrong?

I think someone at BMW should fact check these before they go live.

[Falcao]

Originally Posted by mstmng

one of them installed PARROT
looks like a cab driver

bare in mind it is a 4th car in 3rd year he bought from same sales man and he did not notify him...

PARROT in X6M costing almost 100k

If i bought 100k car without bluetooth, i would take that car back and beat the salesman with a stick. What is it 2001? Honda Civic has bluetooth as standard now in every car.


I think wheels for CP is growing on me now.

[24601]

Originally Posted by turbo8765

Trying to sell a 100k+ car by tying a ballon to the side view mirror. Wow.

Glad my local stealership is a bit more sophisticated.

Did they have a wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubeman out front?

LMFAO!

"wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubeman
wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubeman
wacky waving inflatable arm-flailing tubeman"
- Family Guy

[24601]

Originally Posted by 6spdterror

The reasons most dealerships will not have a fully specd car with every single option is simple. Most dealerships (including mine) floor plan their cars, meaning that they dont tie up their money in the inventory....they use the bank's money. Which means that they pay interest on that car everyday that it sits on the lot. If youre a floor planning dealer, you order cars that will sell fast and not sit on your lot and cost too much interest. The more options you order a car with, the more expensive the car gets, the more interest per day you pay, the LESS likely someone will come in a scoop up a 130k sticker M5 vs one "nicely equipped" at 105-110k. Otherwise every dealer would have individual colors with CCB and competition pkgs hanging around the dealership!!

I only buy full spec and would like to see more locally as options but sadly this is the truth.