Official info on AMS new M5 ECU flash tune, from IND!

[Sharif507]

Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Lol..... If u can afford it just pay n enjoy the power! For those that can't afford it just drive without it so what's the big deal now? By saying how much it worth wouldn't really bring the price down or will it? For me if the tuner can do it pls come n collect the money! I'm ready anytime! Lol....

With my bigger turbo, 125hp of wet shot & methanol I'm just ready to ROCK & ROLL. LOL......

sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet

[Spinny02]

Originally Posted by boots

Damn! I've never seen so much sissy bitch shit in a long time. Either buy the damn product or shut the phuck up? If you don't like what is posted by pass it. I'm willing to bet that 98% of these sissy bitches that cry from ALL of the tune post don't even drive their cars as intended. Geeze people. I'm gonna have to post up more camel toe pics to calm everyone down.

I support the toe. @boots

[mcvaughan]

Originally Posted by boots

Damn! I've never seen so much sissy bitch shit in a long time. Either buy the damn product or shut the phuck up? If you don't like what is posted by pass it. I'm willing to bet that 98% of these sissy bitches that cry from ALL of the tune post don't even drive their cars as intended. Geeze people. I'm gonna have to post up more camel toe pics to calm everyone down.

LOL well said

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by Boss330

You paid 3k for this:

This basically is a Koni coilover kit with TC Kline camber plates. The Koni coilovers, of the type used in this kit, is available for 1300-1600 from other shops. Meaning that shops probably buy them for under 1k from Koni... Add 2 camber plates that has a material cost of perhaps as much as $100.

I think it's important to understand the costs involved in a product before categorically claim it's too expensive! How much has AMS paid for the pwd solution for instance? Early quotes was $460.000,- I'm pretty sure it's not that much now, but it might still be a considerable amount... Then add the same R&D cost that every new model that they make a tune for incurs. And on top of that, you need to make a profit to pay the wages and rent.

At 3k they might make a huge profit, or they might have the same profit margin as they do on other tunes they offer. Neither of us know, because we do not know the cost involved in this product. You can't just assume the cost is $500 and that the rest is profit.

I'm at work, dont have the time to argue every wild assumptions you made.
Regarding the camber plates,my kit came with Vorshlag camber plates,koni DA's and VVS springs.I'd be surprised if Vorshlag would sell their camber plates to TC Kline for less than $100 while they can't keep em in stock going for over $350.

Gintani must be losing their pants for offering an FX ECU flash for $1,299.

Sorry, I didnt mean to upset all the M tax defenders.

[atg4]

Originally Posted by Sharif507

bro, get a jb4.. who gives a damn?
aaaaaalso, sure. other people have cracked a computer that hastn been able to be cracked for 4 years but still they keep it to themselves and dont release it while thousands of dollars remain in the costumers pocket. man you are a smart businessman AND so are the companies you so talk about.

Idk how business is done in Panama, but a reputable company would do a lengthy road test to make sure the tune is safe...but I don't know what I'm talking about.

[infamousq]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

I spent 3 grand on TC kline coilovers, real hardware, shocks, springs, camber plates...for my E92 M3.
I find it ridiculously expensive for someone to charge $3k to rewrite a memory chip on an ECU.
You think that's reasonable, i dont, that's how forums work.

Well I feel it is ridiculous to spend 3k on suspension when you get no real HP out of it yes it improves ride handling but it's not worth 3k to me.

Originally Posted by boots

Damn! I've never seen so much sissy bitch shit in a long time. Either buy the damn product or shut the phuck up? If you don't like what is posted by pass it. I'm willing to bet that 98% of these sissy bitches that cry from ALL of the tune post don't even drive their cars as intended. Geeze people. I'm gonna have to post up more camel toe pics to calm everyone down.

Man this made my day!!!

[AMS ALPHA]

Getting better! Martin is hard at work trying to maximize things while keeping everything happy

Blue line is stock, red line is the latest tune...all on 93 octane. We have to take a break for a bit as Martin needs to get to Florida for the 1/2 mile event with our 2000+ whp GT-R but he is going to jump right back on this when he gets back.

Eric

[AstonMartian777]

Originally Posted by AMS ALPHA

Getting better! Martin is hard at work trying to maximize things while keeping everything happy

Blue line is stock, red line is the latest tune...all on 93 octane. We have to take a break for a bit as Martin needs to get to Florida for the 1/2 mile event with our 2000+ whp GT-R but he is going to jump right back on this when he gets back.

Eric

That is with mods ? Thanks !

[AMS ALPHA]

Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

That is with mods ? Thanks !

Same car so ALPHA Catless Dp's, Eisenmann exhaust and CF Airbox.

[AstonMartian777]

Originally Posted by AMS ALPHA

Same car so ALPHA Catless Dp's, Eisenmann exhaust and CF Airbox.

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I was thinking if I can flash my car with AMS and add JB + FSB meth. If it's a possibility I would like to know how to set it up. Thanks !

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Sure, the stage1 tunes are additive based by design. It can be used to add boost as a function of meth flow on the OEM or any flash map.

[Sharif507]

Originally Posted by alexandertg21

Idk how business is done in Panama, but a reputable company would do a lengthy road test to make sure the tune is safe...but I don't know what I'm talking about.

brotherrr i hope we both get our cars tuned, for whatever price and we can enjoy our asses being pulled to our seats. how bout we leave the condescending comment about panama for that matter and just chill rock on brotha!

[V1.47fan]

Originally Posted by infamousq

Well I feel it is ridiculous to spend 3k on suspension when you get no real HP out of it yes it improves ride handling but it's not worth 3k to me.



Man this made my day!!!

Not if you track or autocross your car. Assuming the guy behind the wheel can drive, Most bang for the buck will be tires, camber plates, coilovers, sway bars....hp mod on a 500+hp car would be probably at the bottom of the list.

[MCarsFan]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Not if you track or autocross your car. Assuming the guy behind the wheel can drive, Most bang for the buck will be tires, camber plates, coilovers, sway bars....hp mod on a 500+hp car would be probably at the bottom of the list.

For a lot of us this is an awesome development and we are interested in the results being posted on this thread.

[Used2be]

Originally Posted by V1.47fan

Not if you track or autocross your car. Assuming the guy behind the wheel can drive, Most bang for the buck will be tires, camber plates, coilovers, sway bars....hp mod on a 500+hp car would be probably at the bottom of the list.

I agree. For the track no more power is needed until I learn to deal with what it has already. I'm not comfortable using all this HP yet, and if I had 100 more to deal with, it would just be more difficult. But the lure of straight-line speed and acceleration is hard to fight, and I'm sure a tune is in my future at some point. And who knows, if they are able to modify the power curve, maybe those extra horses/torque might be more manageable if they arrive higher in the rpm band?

[MCarsFan]

That would be a welcome development. Moving the extra power to a higher rpm band / range would be a good way of removing unwanted surprises. At this stage in MDM mode when I put my foot down in the lower rpm range, it becomes a happy mess pretty quickly, and I agree that extra power is being wasted on eating up rear tires.

[exmowner]

Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

That is with mods ? Thanks !

K I'm seriously excited... 670whp 653wtq.

[brad850csi]

Eric, on your most recent graph the car stops at 6800rpm. Can you keep it going to 7200rpm? I'm also curious if you can change the limiter to maybe 7500rpm and see if it keeps making power up that high?

[AMS ALPHA]

We could spin it higher but power is going to continue to fall off as the turbos are out of breath at that point. Raising a rev limiter is only a good idea of you are leaving power on the table. In this case we are not.

Eric

[DreamerM6]

Originally Posted by boots

Damn! I've never seen so much sissy bitch shit in a long time. Either buy the damn product or shut the phuck up? If you don't like what is posted by pass it. I'm willing to bet that 98% of these sissy bitches that cry from ALL of the tune post don't even drive their cars as intended. Geeze people. I'm gonna have to post up more camel toe pics to calm everyone down.

Cant agree more! Cry babies!!

[boots]

Eric were you guys able to increase the hp-tq level where you have it set at?

[IANNUZZI]

Originally Posted by AMS ALPHA

We could spin it higher but power is going to continue to fall off as the turbos are out of breath at that point. Raising a rev limiter is only a good idea of you are leaving power on the table. In this case we are not.

Eric

The other reason they are doing it is to avoid hitting the limiter....

[MFIZZLENYC]

Originally Posted by AMS ALPHA

We could spin it higher but power is going to continue to fall off as the turbos are out of breath at that point. Raising a rev limiter is only a good idea of you are leaving power on the table. In this case we are not.

Eric

I'm ready to pull the trigger on your tune and dump my Dinan software but what what is the warranty that comes with it ?