Fatal Accident with m5 f10 and others

[TazOjla]

So sad to see images like this, RIP. Buying my son a VW Polo as his first car. 90hp is more than enough for him. He'll get a guaranteed ass whooping if he takes the M5 without me in the car. Don't understand how parents can find it acceptable to let kids drive such over powered cars

[Russkey]

Yeah, it's all over Russian news. Very sad news. I wonder what caused the m5 to lose control? Most of you would probably say: young, unexperienced driver + high speed, right?

[mstmng]

Originally Posted by Russkey

Yeah, it's all over Russian news. Very sad news. I wonder what caused the m5 to lose control? Most of you would probably say: young, unexperienced driver + high speed, right?

No
I say TC OFF or mdm
Unless he hit a huge bump and literally took off the ground in my experience with full traction on its next to impossible to spun out in m5
And i tried it in heavy rain with 950Nm torque and worn tires
But 300kmh may play a difference

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by mstmng

guys i understand that damage might be same/g-force/etc

but i am talking about actual COLLISION/IMPACT speed and it is arguable who is right and who is wrong, but let everyone stay with their own opinion + both cars are different weight, have different collision area, different size, doing different speed and it was not exactly 100% head on

so in reality none of us is right

I do agree that the collision/impact speed on head-on collision is the summation of both speeds.
I also agree the weight and speed will change the equation and as I mentioned p =m *V. what I'm trying to say is that the impact will not cause double damage to each car

[Sergm3]

Originally Posted by stealth.pilot

This is in Russia. Shame he didn't take out the presidential motorcade for a stacked win!

[Phatcat]

Originally Posted by mstmng

guys i understand that damage might be same/g-force/etc

but i am talking about actual COLLISION/IMPACT speed and it is arguable who is right and who is wrong, but let everyone stay with their own opinion + both cars are different weight, have different collision area, different size, doing different speed and it was not exactly 100% head on

so in reality none of us is right

I don't think you can add two car's speed and call that collision speed though.

[GhostyM]

Originally Posted by Phatcat

I don't think you can add two car's speed and call that collision speed though.

Exactly.


One thing to note, the OP just mentioned he has tried to spin out his M5 in heavy rain, then in the first post mentions he's young.. not a good combo IMO. OP, don't hurt yourself bud.

[mstmng]

Originally Posted by Chipped B6

Exactly.


One thing to note, the OP just mentioned he has tried to spin out his M5 in heavy rain, then in the first post mentions he's young.. not a good combo IMO. OP, don't hurt yourself bud.

Do u even ready my posts? Looks like you do not if you read it that way!

Yes i did try and i try and will continue to try with all my cars, because if you can test it in safe environment then you know what to expect from the car on public road in any dangerous conditions

But you will understand it in your own way, so dont bother to reply

[s0ul]

So, what age do you think is required to drive an M4 car? Just curious.

I've started with a 220hp car with my first car. 8 years down till today I'll be getting an M car. Curious to know.

Personally, I don't care what others think if I'm young or not. Should there be a law? No. Should the dealers determine who to sell the cars to? Like Ferrari? No. Should there be a insurance hike? Yes, but I dislike it.

[TazOjla]

Originally Posted by s0ul

So, what age do you think is required to drive an M4 car? Just curious.

I've started with a 220hp car with my first car. 8 years down till today I'll be getting an M car. Curious to know.

Personally, I don't care what others think if I'm young or not. Should there be a law? No. Should the dealers determine who to sell the cars to? Like Ferrari? No. Should there be a insurance hike? Yes, but I dislike it.

I personally don't think you can set an age limit. It's not the car it's more how you drive it. If you're going to be a tit then go ahead buy it you're only endangering yourself and the other poor sods on the road. If you're going to drive in a reasonable fashion then again go ahead, you'll just have more respect for yourself and others IMO.

[s0ul]

Originally Posted by TazOjla

I personally don't think you can set an age limit. It's not the car it's more how you drive it. If you're going to be a tit then go ahead buy it you're only endangering yourself and the other poor sods on the road. If you're going to drive in a reasonable fashion then again go ahead, you'll just have more respect for yourself and others IMO.

Yah man, if people want to haul ass. Do it on the track ffs.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by s0ul

So, what age do you think is required to drive an M4 car? Just curious.

I've started with a 220hp car with my first car. 8 years down till today I'll be getting an M car. Curious to know.

Personally, I don't care what others think if I'm young or not. Should there be a law? No. Should the dealers determine who to sell the cars to? Like Ferrari? No. Should there be a insurance hike? Yes, but I dislike it.

Please don't get defensive. Nobody here wants to offense or say anything against young people but the point is the same way your insurance is high when you are young, there must be some limitation for people who drive high performance cars and as I said before it's not just about age... it's about skill too... so in response to your curiosity, I would say: if someone has over 8 years experience driving a 220 HP car and know how to push that car to the limit then he will be able to control a 400 HP car as long as his ego is under control .... Months ago I asked one of my friends (who is 20 years old) get behind the wheel of my M6 since we had to go somewhere and I was tired. We were at stop light that an Audi-R8 stopped next to us. a young guy behind the wheel of R8 looked my friend and revved his car waiting for Green light to race. My buddy looked at me and said: I think that's the reason we young people shouldn't own these cars because if you were not here, I would race him to give him a lesson not to play with M6 LOL...

[s0ul]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Please don't get defensive. Nobody here wants to offense or say anything against young people but the point is the same way your insurance is high when you are young, there must be some limitation for people who drive high performance cars and as I said before it's not just about age... it's about skill too... so in response to your curiosity, I would say: if someone has over 8 years experience driving a 220 HP car and know how to push that car to the limit then he will be able to control a 400 HP car as long as his ego is under control .... Months ago I asked one of my friends (who is 20 years old) get behind the wheel of my M6 since we had to go somewhere and I was tired. We were at stop light that an Audi-R8 stopped next to us. a young guy behind the wheel of R8 looked my friend and revved his car waiting for Green light to race. My buddy looked at me and said: I think that's the reason we young people shouldn't own these cars because if you were not here, I would race him to give him a lesson not to play with M6 LOL...

lol man, even with my 325i in the past I've had kids try to race me. I just let them pass me. I don't have time for that shit. I'm not mad, I'm just pissed that people in my age group ruin it for me.

[shahano]

Im curious how the damage was from behind like that.