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      04-10-2015, 09:08 PM   #23
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Here are my guesses, all minor tho as there won't be any major changes to F10 M5

1. some software updates to iDrive
2. Standard led headlights
3. Some new color/wheel option
4. Possibly a Special edition packaging as someone already mentioned

Again all minor as the M division is working on LCI F80 and upcoming M2.
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      04-11-2015, 05:00 AM   #24
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I see.

In any case, if they can't configure it for the current model, then hopefully they can install certain changes for the next generation.

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I was just trying to experiment with the BMW Germany website by configuring an M550d xDrive station wagon

I was surprised to see Ceramic Controls being available as an option for that variant.

So yeah, I hope to see Ceramic Controls for next generation of the M5
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I don't think there is going to be a 2017 F10 M5. Have you heard something indicating that there will be?
I haven't heard that the 2016 M5 will have a 16 month production run. Where are you getting this? That would be an extremely long run. I haven't heard that there will be a 2017 M5 but I have guestimated that it would make sense in order to keep the tradition going. There was no 2011 BMW M5. Every generation of BMW M5 starting with the E39 has had a 6 model year cycle. Why would BMW not make the F10 M5 have 6 model years too? I've posted this many times below:

E39 M5:

1. 1998
2. 1999
3. 2000
4. 2001 - LCI
5. 2002
6. 2003

E60 M5:

1. 2005
2. 2006
3. 2007
4. 2008 - LCI
5. 2009
6. 2010

F10 M5:

1. 2012
2. 2013
3. 2014 - LCI
4. 2015
5. 2016
6. 2017

G80 M5:

1. 2019
2. 2020
3. 2021
4. 2022
5. 2023
6. 2024

The only thing that is odd is that BMW introduced the LCI on the F10 M5 a year early than what has been done in the past. Like I said I'm just deducing these things based off of what BMW has done in the past. It could very well be that since the introduced the LCI F10 M5 so early that there won't be a 2017 M5 and they will cut it short. BMW has been doing crazy stuff lately so who knows. I mean there could be goofy stuff like an X1M and X4M coming out in the future.
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I haven't heard that the 2016 M5 will have a 16 month production run. Where are you getting this?
Here: http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1082153

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Yes that is peculiar, but the M4 also has the same exact production length. It doesn't mean that October 2016 is when all F10 Production will stop for good though. But it could also mean that BMW have decided upon a longer production run for the last model year rather than doing another model year and having a much shorter production run than normal. Like what happened with the 2010 E60 M5 which ran from July 2009 to December 2009. Very short production run. Also, deleting a model year could also explain the introduction of the LCI early in the life cycle for the F10 M5. I still think there could be a 2017 M5, it just might be a very very short production run. The new G30 5-series might not even come out until Spring of 2017 at the latest.

I am also surprised that there is going to be a 2016 E89 Z4. Lol!

Edit: After further analysis, there may very well be no 2017 M5. After reading what Jason posted about the G30 5-Series, it appears that the 5-Series will end a whole model year early for real. Traditionally, the 5-Series ran for 8 model years, but now it's only going to be 7, seems BMW is changing things up. I have a hard time imagining BMW continuing making F10 M5's when they've started G30 Production already, but this also means that the G8x M5 may come a year earlier in the future too. Good for enthusiasts, bad for the wallet. I'm sure that by next January will will know for sure, if all F10 production will be ending in October 2016.
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Yes that is peculiar, but the M4 also has the same exact production length. It doesn't mean that October 2016 is when all F10 Production will stop for good though. But it could also mean that BMW have decided upon a longer production run for the last model year rather than doing another model year and having a much shorter production run than normal.
Okay, I see what you're saying. In other words, just because they are scheduled to have a 16-month production run of the 2016 M5, from July 2015-October 2016, doesn't mean that SOP for the new 2017 will be November 2016. They could delay it for 90 days or so during the change-over. That would make the launch sometime in late spring, maybe early summer in the US. I don't know anything about not producing a 2017 F10 model, I just think it would be unlikely.

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I still think there could be a 2017 M5, it just might be a very very short production run. The new G30 5-series might not even come out until Spring of 2017 at the latest.
Okay, we know that production of the 2016 F10 5-series is scheduled for a 16-month run from July 2015 - October 2016, so if the new 2017 G30 5-series begins production around the end of February, that would give it an introduction in late spring or early summer 2017.

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Edit: After further analysis, there may very well be no 2017 M5. After reading what Jason posted about the G30 5-Series, it appears that the 5-Series will end a whole model year early for real. Traditionally, the 5-Series ran for 8 model years, but now it's only going to be 7, seems BMW is changing things up. I have a hard time imagining BMW continuing making F10 M5's when they've started G30 Production already, but this also means that the G8x M5 may come a year earlier in the future too. Good for enthusiasts, bad for the wallet. I'm sure that by next January will will know for sure, if all F10 production will be ending in October 2016.
Yes, that has been my impression from what has been posted on BMW Blog and from what pops up online from the German magazines. Looks like the 2016 F10 5-series runs from July 2015 through October 2016, followed at some point later -- maybe three month or so later -- by production of the new G30 models.

There are a whole lot of rumors online about the new engine lineup for the G30 5-series. Like the rumor that the 550i will have a new ~425hp 3.0L 6cyl instead of the 4.4L V8 and that the new M5 will have 600hp -- same as the current 2016 Alpina B6 xDrive GC.
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