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I remember AFE for the E60 M5 did not offer any gains.
CAI's for NA engines are a worthy upgrade. CAI's for a turbo engine are IMO not worth it.
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Apparently the sound is actually annoying, so most end up removing and reinstalling stock air boxes.
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gruppe M lol
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THAT is what you should do-lol!
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there is your answer total wast of money end off.
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The benefit derived from an aftermarket intake is highly dependent on how restrictive a stock intake is. At stock hp and boost levels, the stock intake may be perfectly suited to it. But as you increase power and boost, the need for more air is increased and whether the stock intake is suited for it is something that needs to be tested (preferably out on the road/track). But to blanketly state that turbo cars get no benefit from aftermarket intake is just conjecture. |
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Conversely, you CAN get gains by adding a CAE to a NA engine, however, my point was that it is minimal in respect to the exorbitant price paid. Therefore mathematically speaking; benefit/price=WASTE. Again, you can just save a whole lot of money by simply removing your charcoal filters. You pick up approx. 75% of the benefit (if any) at ZERO cost. Also, I do agree with you on the lack of ability f the Dyno fans to reproduce driving conditions. I have said this a ZILLION times on here when people are posting Dyno results from their cars. The F10 requires true 1:1 air flow ratios on the Dyno and NOBODY does it. Then they produce suspect results and proclaim them to be factual. P.S. I simply found this video to be funny not scientific. I t is hilarious the lengths (quite literally) that these guys go to to prove this theory wrong.
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Whoops! I meant charcoal filters.
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To be honest, I don't particularly like the design of the AFE intakes. They have the conical filter completely enclosed and the only inlet for air is through a hole that looks to be smaller than the actual intake tubing. To me that appears to be way too restrictive...especially if looking to increase power and flow down the road. The price isn't too much cheaper than what I paid for my carbon fiber intake. Last edited by Tom C; 12-16-2013 at 09:22 AM.. |
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I believe that Charcoal filters are deleted here in Leb as the car is a Euro spec. Can you all confirm that Euro spec cars have not CFilters?
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Well large conical intakes on a turbo car running high flow DP's is absolutely not a waste, when the system is well designed like group M . I picked up almost 30whp and much better spool up on my tuned GTR . If you have modded your S63 tu and want most out of it this is part of the equation . I personally love the Sound combined with my SS DP's . It's much less of a waste than non functional aero that every one crows about , or 10k multipiece wheels that are heavier than stock, or 9k exhausts that add 5 hp . Even if it added no power , which it does , it would be worth it to me for the noticeable increase in intake sound . My two cents .
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