Tyre choice

DGillies · 11-18-2016, 05:26 PM

I have a Singapore Grey competition pack M5 which I took delivery of earlier this year. This is my forth M5 however the first with Pirelli P ZERO', all other cars have had Michelin Super Sports fitted.

I would describe my car as dangerously unpredictable in comparison to my previous cars which is hugely disappointing given I opted for the Comp Package, this can only be down to tyres? I am really interested in hearing thoughts and other experiences?

I am removing the Pirelli's this week and replacing them with the Michelins however I am really interested to hear other experiences with Tyres on an F10 M5.

josec70 · 11-18-2016, 08:58 PM

Recently went with Vredsteins and love them.

MCarsFan · 11-19-2016, 09:29 AM

PZero is a good tire. If anything I'd switch to 99Y 305/30/20 tires for rear stock wheels.

Mbdurham17 · 11-19-2016, 12:00 PM

Went through 2 sets of PSS on my 14 and my 16 came with PZero (both with ZCP) I was disappointed at first but after 5k havnt really noticed any difference in performance. I actually like the look of the PZero better for some reason and they seem to be quieter on the interstate. I know PSS is is a "better" tire but havnt decided which I'm going with when I pull the trigger on wheels. I have read that you only get about half the mileage from PZero bs PSS so that would be the deciding factor

DGillies · 12-11-2016, 02:40 PM

As a note to all, I changed the Pirelli P Zero's to Michelin and its made the M5 the car BMW intended it to be! I am now delighted with the additional performance the competition pack offers which I was simply not able to access with the Pirelli tyres.
The Pirelli P ZERO's still had 6.5mm on the front and the rear tyres had 5mm (both start with 7mm).
I am sure there are a number of differing experiences; however in the British climate the Michelin's have been tremendous advantage over the Pirelli’s. Without this experience personally I simply would not have believed the difference tyres could have on the performance of a car in particular given both tyre’s in question here are from manufacturers considered to be premium. Please note BMW!!!

13M5F10 · 12-11-2016, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by DGillies

As a note to all, I changed the Pirelli P Zero's to Michelin and its made the M5 the car BMW intended it to be! I am now delighted with the additional performance the competition pack offers which I was simply not able to access with the Pirelli tyres.
The Pirelli P ZERO's still had 6.5mm on the front and the rear tyres had 5mm (both start with 7mm).
I am sure there are a number of differing experiences; however in the British climate the Michelin's have been tremendous advantage over the Pirelli’s. Without this experience personally I simply would not have believed the difference tyres could have on the performance of a car in particular given both tyre’s in question here are from manufacturers considered to be premium. Please note BMW!!!

I have a feeling you were running the wrong loading... what sizes where they and loading? The correct size and loading would have felt much better than the PSS. I was pushing high HP and they gripped and cornered well.

TYRE GUY · 12-13-2016, 05:18 AM

I own a tyre store and have had the opportunity to test a number of different sizes and brands . The star rated (BMW) Michelin OE sizes are the best by a country mile . I should mention the downside is higher road noise on some surfaces .

DGillies · 02-09-2017, 10:33 AM

That is really interesting to hear you say that as a tyre expert and I would agree fully with both points. The Michelins are significantly louder on road noise, however the upside of performance is tremendous. I have now done 2000 miles on them and they get better with every outing.

Is seems a little strange to say however I had lost all confidence in the car with the Pirelli's, almost scared to use it as I felt it was going to ill me and I have driven an M5 for over 10 years, now the car is great and highly predictable so delighted with the outcome.

I should also note that BMW paid for my replacement tyres, 100% which was over £1,200 which again tells me that they were aware of the issue and although reluctantly paid for the replacements as they acknowledged mycar was "unpredictable".

11-18-2016, 05:26 PM	#1
DGillies New Member 14 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2019 F90 M5 Comp. MBB Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Nottingham UK iTrader: (0)	Tyre choice I have a Singapore Grey competition pack M5 which I took delivery of earlier this year. This is my forth M5 however the first with Pirelli P ZERO', all other cars have had Michelin Super Sports fitted. I would describe my car as dangerously unpredictable in comparison to my previous cars which is hugely disappointing given I opted for the Comp Package, this can only be down to tyres? I am really interested in hearing thoughts and other experiences? I am removing the Pirelli's this week and replacing them with the Michelins however I am really interested to hear other experiences with Tyres on an F10 M5.
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11-18-2016, 08:58 PM	#2
josec70 Major General 4065 Rep 5,231 Posts Drives: 22' Individual Chalk M5C Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami iTrader: (2)	Recently went with Vredsteins and love them. __________________ CURRENT: 22' INDIVIDUAL M5\| CHALK \| TARTUFO \| CCB \| MPE \| H&R \| IND GONE: 19' M5C\| SINGAPORE GREY\| ARAGON\|VELOS VLS-06\|H&R\|iPE\|IND\|XPEL\|CF\|RADENSO GONE: 15' F10 M5\|BSM\|BLACK\|VELOS VSS-S2\|KW\|AKRA\|IND\|CF \|ESCORT 360\|VELOS PIGGY GONE: 13' F10 M5\|SG\|BLACK\|AKRA\|KW\|IND LONG GONE: 09' E60 M5\|02' E39 M5
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Mbdurham17 Captain 159 Rep 917 Posts Drives: 2016 M5 CP Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: Nashville iTrader: (1)	Went through 2 sets of PSS on my 14 and my 16 came with PZero (both with ZCP) I was disappointed at first but after 5k havnt really noticed any difference in performance. I actually like the look of the PZero better for some reason and they seem to be quieter on the interstate. I know PSS is is a "better" tire but havnt decided which I'm going with when I pull the trigger on wheels. I have read that you only get about half the mileage from PZero bs PSS so that would be the deciding factor
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12-11-2016, 02:40 PM	#5
DGillies New Member 14 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2019 F90 M5 Comp. MBB Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Nottingham UK iTrader: (0)	As a note to all, I changed the Pirelli P Zero's to Michelin and its made the M5 the car BMW intended it to be! I am now delighted with the additional performance the competition pack offers which I was simply not able to access with the Pirelli tyres. The Pirelli P ZERO's still had 6.5mm on the front and the rear tyres had 5mm (both start with 7mm). I am sure there are a number of differing experiences; however in the British climate the Michelin's have been tremendous advantage over the Pirelli’s. Without this experience personally I simply would not have believed the difference tyres could have on the performance of a car in particular given both tyre’s in question here are from manufacturers considered to be premium. Please note BMW!!!
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12-13-2016, 05:18 AM	#7
TYRE GUY Enlisted Member 8 Rep 36 Posts Drives: F10 M5 X6M Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: BRISBANE iTrader: (0)	I own a tyre store and have had the opportunity to test a number of different sizes and brands . The star rated (BMW) Michelin OE sizes are the best by a country mile . I should mention the downside is higher road noise on some surfaces .
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02-09-2017, 10:33 AM	#8
DGillies New Member 14 Rep 24 Posts Drives: 2019 F90 M5 Comp. MBB Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Nottingham UK iTrader: (0)	Tyre Choice That is really interesting to hear you say that as a tyre expert and I would agree fully with both points. The Michelins are significantly louder on road noise, however the upside of performance is tremendous. I have now done 2000 miles on them and they get better with every outing. Is seems a little strange to say however I had lost all confidence in the car with the Pirelli's, almost scared to use it as I felt it was going to ill me and I have driven an M5 for over 10 years, now the car is great and highly predictable so delighted with the outcome. I should also note that BMW paid for my replacement tyres, 100% which was over £1,200 which again tells me that they were aware of the issue and although reluctantly paid for the replacements as they acknowledged mycar was "unpredictable".
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