2011 BMW M5 named one of 25 Cars Worth Waiting For... well duh!

[arkitectonix]

UPDATE: After reading the story here on Jalopnik, Car and Driver Editor-in-Chief Eddie Alterman commented below, saying: "Well, it's pretty clear we were duped. Hereby acknowledged, and we will run your letter, John. Let me know what else we can do." This story's a good reminder of the importance of allowing derivative works in today's smaller budget media landscape — but to do so with fair crediting of sources.

http://jalopnik.com/5527126/how-car-...e-artists-work

[CSL-Fanatik]

If it makes you feel any better, your rendering is still much better looking than C&D. They stole the rendering and managed to make it look worse.

Hope everything works out for you.

[numba1guju]

congrats for C&D responding...hope to see your name in future C&D as a rendering artist...this rendering is amazing as are all of your renderings

[JasonCSU]

Glad to hear Car and Driver has acknowledged the issue. I was getting ready to boycott.

[mkoesel]

Just want to say kudos to the C&D editor for not trying to deny the obvious truth.

And good on you Jon for getting some results.

[Vintage]

what a screw job

[Tallest]

This is bad.

Given that CAR AND DRIVER has its logo plastered on YOUR rendering makes C&D responsible. For example, C&D needs to take Mark's check and give it to you because that's the right thing to do.

In fact, you would not be wrong by asking them to pay you whatever they paid the cheater because heck, this rendering helps them sell magazines and I think the least they can do i is compensate you for their lack of DD.

[Alpin3_F30]

Originally Posted by jonsibal

Yep I know what you mean. As a digital artist like yourself, I'm sure you can understand my frustration. I posted a more in dept post in my BLOG about it.

By the way, keep up the great work on your renders. The F10 M5 is my favorite with the 6 series based on the grand coupe is a close second.

Yeah id be pretty ticked off if someone took my work especially car and driver. id want to get paid off forget the credit. and thanks for the compliment but you know how it is, we just want to please our people on the forums with eye candy. good luck with this issue

[BrokenVert]

wow, poor show by C&D. Just remember that people have won lawsuits with less supporting evidence.

[billspreston]

As a graphic artist I can say this is really terrible and disgusting, BUT Jon, you are getting tons of great publicity on this on all these big auto blogs so I hope you can capitalize on it! We'll be seeing some of Jon's real renderings in C&D very soon methinks

[Alex@Alpine]

Wow thats nuts!

[billspreston]

Originally Posted by BrokenVert

wow, poor show by C&D. Just remember that people have won lawsuits with less supporting evidence.

It's not really C&Ds fault unless the artist is on salaried staff, which is doubtful, but you have to believe as a reputable publication that C&D will make things right in the end.

Jon could go after the contracted artist if he really wanted to though

[REVNU]

As a fellow artist (Graphic Artist) I am sad to see this. I'm sure your heart just about hit the floor when you saw/heard the news that Mark Neeper/C&D "stole" your rendering. I truly hope that Mark Neeper suffers professional (negative) consequences because of this. I'm very happy to see that C&D stepped up and acknowledged they were in the wrong (duped).

Keep up the good work Jon, your renderings are amazing and I enjoy your work.

[Haides]

man if bmw do the m5 like you did u should sue them for copying your work
and they should do the m5 like this..

[bape]

this is horrible. I love that rendering and i really hope you get credit/rewarded for the hard work you have put in!

[zuggerat89]

Jon, your rendering looks so much better. Can't believe someone would do this. Hope it all works out!

[persianbmw91]

Originally Posted by zuggerat89

Jon, your rendering looks so much better. Can't believe someone would do this. Hope it all works out!

lol they couldnt even copy properly. C and D sucks any way haha. all their reviews blow

[Memphis1]

the comment on C&D also acknowledges the rip off

"Erik Johnson wrote on Apr 29, 2010 at 10:54 AM

Veen -

We hire our freelance photographers, writers, and digital artists with the understanding that they're creating original work. It's clear now that wasn't the case with this story."

[Memphis1]

oh... i guess they apologized...

"Dear Mr. Sibal,

I am deeply sorry and embarrassed.

I had found or already had various M-Kits that were chopped out or semi-chopped out of their backgrounds, not properly comprehending where they sourced from - even factory photo "kits" of M edition vehicles, which in retrospect, I should have used. I am so embarrassed and hope you will accept my sincere apology for this error.

Your work is fantastic, and I hope we can be friends in the future, and thank you for your kind words in the midst of this mishap.

Sincerely,

Mark Neeper"

[Alpin3_F30]

im waiting for them to take parts of my 6 series renderings lets see what happens

[GreenPlease]

That sucks. They should give credit where credit is due.

[CarPix]

First of all, great renderings you do. Jonsibal and Alpine.

I know it sucks when someone is ripping you stuff, but you also forgett something by your self. In most cases you use a original spyphoto for the renderings or sometimes parts of a spyphoto. Also alot of details are from spyphotos.

And as one of those spyphotographers that delivers photos to bimmerpost it should be right if the rendering said, based on a photo from CarPix for example.

And if you are intrested in some kind of co-operation i could deliver some hi-res photos for you to work on.

Cheers