10-30-2013, 01:23 PM | #23 |
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seats are different in the M3 and M4, I would be surprised if they are as comfortable as the M5 seats.
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10-30-2013, 04:07 PM | #26 |
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The build sheet states it will have full Merino leather as an option. I bet the interior will be very nice. The E9x platform never offered full leather, only extended.
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10-30-2013, 05:01 PM | #27 |
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There was some interior video that showed the dash stitching etc. Will be a beautiful touch.
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10-30-2013, 05:06 PM | #28 |
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Nice!
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Just put a deposit down for the M4, I was also interested in the B&O sound system and the dealer told me that on launch they might offer this as a option. The other missing options don't really matter to me because there not really necessary and imo a waste of money. I have every possible option on my 7 and I probably use less than half of them.
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10-30-2013, 09:58 PM | #31 |
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they better not put dinky 4 piston brakes in the rear... Hopefully will not need automatic bbk upgrade right out of the box!
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10-31-2013, 05:56 PM | #35 | |
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Ferrari has no manuals, and Porsche will be soon, and the infamous GT3 has no manual, and the builder clearly stated this car was built for the track and a manual will slow it down. I get the manaul thing my 991S is a 7 speed manual which I love, and I will not track to it works for me. Also if you go to M school they have over 100M cars on property, and not one manual so where's the heritage? Just a change in times bro, and the more horse power you add the manual becomes more ineffective for what the car was built to do. Point taken you love yours which is great, but know the sales are declining for a reason even with Porsche 9 of 10 991 are PDK. Again not debating just stating the facts. Find me a manual 458 or McClaren? |
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11-01-2013, 04:45 AM | #37 |
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First dibs on your set-up Dave if you trade the M5 for the M4/3 The M3/4 is growing on me but the one thing I would miss is the space for the M5 over the M3.......
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11-01-2013, 04:53 AM | #38 |
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Not only improved performance, but improved efficiency & reliability. Ftc understand where your coming from regarding feeling more at one with the car. I haven't driven manual for several years, and do sometimes miss the 'raw' driving experience, however, I don't miss going through clutches relatively quickly (at least in comparison to less powerful cars) and nor do I miss the heavy clutch pedal, stiff gearbox and cold start 'kangaroo' jumps (at least in the man e46 m). I was in the camp giving feedback that M cars needed to be easier to drive at low speeds (in the days when your only other option was 1st generation SMG).
Can't disagree more with your glorified steptronic comment, dual clutch gearboxes offer a better feel in manual shift mode than a torque converter (also vastly improved over previous gen) and they have come a long way in terms of low speed driving (parking speeds, etc) since the first gen VW DSGs. Agree with bimmer6; sign of the times and feedback from owners is telling manufacturers that you are in the minority. |
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If you require it for an m5 you better have one now or it will be no more. I specifically bought this m5 in 6MT because I can't drive anything else well and it was the last year for the m5 that will have it Confirmed by bmw engineering when released |
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There is no heavy pedal, there is no burning up of clutches, it is not jumpy if you know how to drive manual. It is very well put together especially with the throttle blip they intro'd |
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the only reason i never bought 6 MT m3 is due the fact i had higher risk of accident, double clutching in every single corner with traction control OFF, driving manual before so it is good there is no manual option for m5 in uk safer for me |
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11-03-2013, 12:32 AM | #43 |
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sorry to break this to you lovers of 6mt in the M5, but if you really wanted to feel connected to your car, buying a 2.5 ton limousine was your first mistake.
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11-03-2013, 08:16 AM | #44 |
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I don't understand why people are trying to convince one is better than the other and get emotional about it. Seriously. Especially so with the DCT guys saying "manuals die already DIE DIE! Honestly as if you guys have DCT manufacturers stocks in your portfolio? Or if DCT transmissions are compromised in designs due to a manual version of the car being around. Guys driving manuals say it's fun but dct guys rush in to say no its not, your slow, sucks in traffic, what's the point, assumptions like heavy clutch, etc. Weird. To each is own. Sheesh.
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