Burger Tuning M5/M6 Intake Prototype Pics & VIDEO - Charge Pipe News as Well :)

[m6beast]

Originally Posted by Msizzle

Sir with due respect can you quote my post that I called your product crap? Obvisouly you can't because it doesn't exist, I can however quote my own post that states
"one thing I gotta agree with you it seems every single customer is happy with his service and with the product. And it definitely sounds incredible!! I also really like the styling. "

As i have stated in other post I believe that I am a lot more technical than most owners on here when it comes to tuning, I'm sure you your self have read some of the ridiculous posts on here by completely uninformed owners, also I'm sure being that for months you were the only one in the 10's you knew that we had some egregious over stated dyno's that couldn't be backed up with performance numbers. So as a result of all this and my understanding of how a turbo charged motor works I am extremely skeptical. For example a dinan piggy back is $3000 while the bms one is $600, the "rich" guy who got the dinan one will sit around at cars and coffee justifying his purchase and explaining why dinan is the greatest thing in the world with his $3000 piggy back. As an experienced tuner before you made your intake if I told you I picked up 5mph on my trap with just an intake, you would say no way no how. As fas as the performance I still would want to see it my self or a test with ALL variables stated, we of course all know how density altitude, ambient air temp, or even switching lanes can affect the trap speed. I applaud your commitment to this platform, and I also applaud the quality of your intake along with your extremely high standard for customer service. I apologize if I offended your work that was not my intentions.

Sorry Msizzle! Maybe I read it wrong

Originally Posted by Msizzle

Also if you think about how a turbocharged engine works, all this crap about ram air effect of the msr is crap in my opinion.

As for production yes I can't compete with companies that mass produce especially that have been in the business for so many years. As for BMS compared to Dinan I agree for I push Terry's products since day one. I had so many bash me for being one of the first guys putting on a piggy back on my M6. Claiming I will blow my motor ect. To me it wasn't about a cheap product, but a product that worked and fullfiled my needs while Terry gave me customer service like no other.
As for my intake design I've been doing this since my first e36 M3 with same results including my e39 M5 and e63 M6 just all those years it was for myself. But that wasn't always just intakes I always had fabricators build around my designs and expectations wanting the best sound while performing like no other. Since then I've become even more technical and now it's just the beginning. I don't build a product to compete with vendors but build a product that moves me for I love to design, engineer and fulfill my needs.
In return bringing my personal products to the public and for those who want them I will give to them and for those who don't care I respect them. I always push fellow members to other vendors making sure their need are met not expecting to have my personal products on their cars.
So once again sorry if I misunderstood your post, I will keep bringing my taste of products to the industry even if some will not approve the cost or performance claims.
Take care

[Lerxst M4]

Originally Posted by Msizzle

Sir with due respect can you quote my post that I called your product crap? Obvisouly you can't because it doesn't exist, I can however quote my own post that states
"one thing I gotta agree with you it seems every single customer is happy with his service and with the product. And it definitely sounds incredible!! I also really like the styling. "

As i have stated in other post I believe that I am a lot more technical than most owners on here when it comes to tuning, I'm sure you your self have read some of the ridiculous posts on here by completely uninformed owners, also I'm sure being that for months you were the only one in the 10's you knew that we had some egregious over stated dyno's that couldn't be backed up with performance numbers. So as a result of all this and my understanding of how a turbo charged motor works I am extremely skeptical. For example a dinan piggy back is $3000 while the bms one is $600, the "rich" guy who got the dinan one will sit around at cars and coffee justifying his purchase and explaining why dinan is the greatest thing in the world with his $3000 piggy back. As an experienced tuner before you made your intake if I told you I picked up 5mph on my trap with just an intake, you would say no way no how. As fas as the performance I still would want to see it my self or a test with ALL variables stated, we of course all know how density altitude, ambient air temp, or even switching lanes can affect the trap speed. I applaud your commitment to this platform, and I also applaud the quality of your intake along with your extremely high standard for customer service. I apologize if I offended your work that was not my intentions.

Definitely not a rich guy - and the only reason I went with Dinan was because I am NOT rich and didn't want to do anything that might affect my poor-guy warranty. ...but I think I know where you're coming from, just don't want to be lumped into some perceived group. Backing back out of thread now.

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by Lerxst M5

Definitely not a rich guy - and the only reason I went with Dinan was because I am NOT rich and didn't want to do anything that might affect my poor-guy warranty. ...but I think I know where you're coming from, just don't want to be lumped into some perceived group. Backing back out of thread now.

Bullshit... You're super rich. I saw your house and the two lambo's sitting in the garage. I admire your humbleness!


Hahahaha

[Lerxst M4]

Originally Posted by 13M5F10

Bullshit... You're super rich. I saw your house and the two lambo's sitting in the garage. I admire your humbleness!


Hahahaha

Busted...

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Lerxst M5

Definitely not a rich guy - and the only reason I went with Dinan was because I am NOT rich and didn't want to do anything that might affect my poor-guy warranty. ...but I think I know where you're coming from, just don't want to be lumped into some perceived group. Backing back out of thread now.

I get that bro, but the way the BMS works on the car by simply being plugged into MAP and TMAP sensors, like literally if your motor blew it would take ten minutes to get on and off the car, its not like if you had downpipes, exhaust, custom turbos, and you were trying to get it back to stock for a warranty claim.

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

I get that bro, but the way the BMS works on the car by simply being plugged into MAP and TMAP sensors, like literally if your motor blew it would take ten minutes to get on and off the car, its not like if you had downpipes, exhaust, custom turbos, and you were trying to get it back to stock for a warranty claim.

It's detectable still by BMW Engineers if they really wanted to look into it. That's the only gamble. We tested it out several times with friends of mine that work for BMW and each time they showed me where they are able to detect that a piggy was installed.

[Lerxst M4]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

I get that bro, but the way the BMS works on the car by simply being plugged into MAP and TMAP sensors, like literally if your motor blew it would take ten minutes to get on and off the car, its not like if you had downpipes, exhaust, custom turbos, and you were trying to get it back to stock for a warranty claim.

Yeah, I'm with ya there.

Hell, I STILL may eventually go that route when the fun-factor of the Dinan wears off - and it will, I'm sure of it as I get used to the power. I also don't know if I can sell this thing to someone else when I am ready to either move on from the M5 or move to a different tune. One question I forgot to ask my Dinan rep before forking over the cash! haha doh.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Lerxst M5

Yeah, I'm with ya there.

Hell, I STILL may eventually go that route when the fun-factor of the Dinan wears off - and it will, I'm sure of it as I get used to the power. I also don't know if I can sell this thing to someone else when I am ready to either move on from the M5 or move to a different tune. One question I forgot to ask my Dinan rep before forking over the cash! haha doh.

You can you'd just have to get it uninstalled. I'd list it on here for a few hundred off the price someone would pick it up I'm sure.

BMW is full of warranty conscious individuals like yourself lol Not that its a bad thing because GTR has that same group who are terrified a base tune or some downpipes will ruin their car... Even though not even in a remotely close danger zone for damage lol.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Where are all the BMS Intake + CP reviews?

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Where are all the BMS Intake + CP reviews?

Mine just arrived from you today. Gonna install it on Monday!

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Dracon

Mine just arrived from you today. Gonna install it on Monday!

Awesome, looking forward for your review

[MpowerMike]

Waiting for some drive by vids and review!

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Awesome, looking forward for your review

Installed my intake on Monday and my chargepipes today.

With the intake, I didn't notice any change to the sound of the intake/motor but did notice a much improved throttle response and the vehicle just feels a little quicker.

Installation was pretty easy, although there's 7 screws on the intake box instead of 6 like the BMS Install document shows. The 7th is a major pain in the butt to get to, but once it's out everything else was pretty simple.

On the chargepipes, I didn't expect any real difference since I'm not running meth or anything yet so it'd just be a replacement. However, I did notice a different sound under acceleration after the chargepipe install. I'm not sure if it's normal or if something is loose (check everything and everything appears to be in order).

Installation was a little more difficult than the intake was. Just very tight spaces to work in and getting the pipes into the right place was a bit of a pain. BMS's Install document showed that the stock chargepipes were secured with screw-type band clamps but mine were installed with ear-type band clamps so a big part of my time was trying to get them off to remove the stock pipes.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Dracon

Installed my intake on Monday and my chargepipes today.

With the intake, I didn't notice any change to the sound of the intake/motor but did notice a much improved throttle response and the vehicle just feels a little quicker.

Installation was pretty easy, although there's 7 screws on the intake box instead of 6 like the BMS Install document shows. The 7th is a major pain in the butt to get to, but once it's out everything else was pretty simple.

On the chargepipes, I didn't expect any real difference since I'm not running meth or anything yet so it'd just be a replacement. However, I did notice a different sound under acceleration after the chargepipe install. I'm not sure if it's normal or if something is loose (check everything and everything appears to be in order).

Installation was a little more difficult than the intake was. Just very tight spaces to work in and getting the pipes into the right place was a bit of a pain. BMS's Install document showed that the stock chargepipes were secured with screw-type band clamps but mine were installed with ear-type band clamps so a big part of my time was trying to get them off to remove the stock pipes.

Lets see some pics!!

[allmotor_2000]

Originally Posted by Dracon

Installed my intake on Monday and my chargepipes today.

With the intake, I didn't notice any change to the sound of the intake/motor but did notice a much improved throttle response and the vehicle just feels a little quicker.

Installation was pretty easy, although there's 7 screws on the intake box instead of 6 like the BMS Install document shows. The 7th is a major pain in the butt to get to, but once it's out everything else was pretty simple.

On the chargepipes, I didn't expect any real difference since I'm not running meth or anything yet so it'd just be a replacement. However, I did notice a different sound under acceleration after the chargepipe install. I'm not sure if it's normal or if something is loose (check everything and everything appears to be in order).

Installation was a little more difficult than the intake was. Just very tight spaces to work in and getting the pipes into the right place was a bit of a pain. BMS's Install document showed that the stock chargepipes were secured with screw-type band clamps but mine were installed with ear-type band clamps so a big part of my time was trying to get them off to remove the stock pipes.

MUCH easier if you just remove the entire box (only one bolt holding it down). This makes removing the torx bolts for the cover simple. It takes really 3 mins to pop each air boxe out...

[Igor_M5]

Whats the final price tag on these?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Igor@ONEighty

Whats the final price tag on these?

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1207449

[m5james]

Link takes you to another link.

$600...that's all you had to say.

[13M5F10]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

MUCH easier if you just remove the entire box (only one bolt holding it down). This makes removing the torx bolts for the cover simple. It takes really 3 mins to pop each air boxe out...

I agree ... One bolt and remove the entire box and then take your time with the screws. I learned the hard way with the charcoal delete. That 7th screen was a pain in my ass. Haha

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by m5james

Link takes you to another link.

$600...that's all you had to say.

it's against forum rules to post a link to our website so I had to send a link to our thread in the vendor section

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Lets see some pics!!

Here you go!

[Dracon]

Originally Posted by allmotor_2000

MUCH easier if you just remove the entire box (only one bolt holding it down). This makes removing the torx bolts for the cover simple. It takes really 3 mins to pop each air boxe out...

Yeah, I made a few suggestions to BMS for modifying the documentation to make it a little easier/more accurate for others.

Now I'm just trying to determine if the noise I'm hearing is actually the intake noise. I don't recall hearing it after the intake installation but noticed it after the chargepipe installation the following day.

Pretty sure it's the intake as it's an odd kind of whooshing/sucking sound (kinda hard to describe). Tried to see if cjrdriven was available today at lunch to go for a ride and give a second opinion.