What would you do in this situation?

mwlmd · 08-23-2014, 09:55 PM

Hi guys. Need to poll the group here. The other day I went to my usual Starbucks and noticed they had just layed asphalt on the parking lot of a Vet hospital they built next-door. The access road to Starbucks was open with no unusual signage. When I returned home I noticed the entire front end of my car is coated with black specs. The alpine white had been transformed into Vanilla Bean. I washed the car and then followed it with tar remover. Did nothing. The spots are large enough you can feel them.

I am guessing this will require professional detail/buff/polish etc to remove? Several hundred dollars?

Do I just suck it up or complain? Really pisses me off. The joys of white car ownership...

Thoughts?

eleven11 · 08-23-2014, 10:21 PM

Get a professional to take care of it. Sounds like it's likely on the surface, therefore shouldn't be to difficult to correct.

sharifm3 · 08-23-2014, 10:30 PM

Before you go to a pro. Buy a clay bar kit and give it a shot. I believe mothers sells one. It takes off most paint contaminants. I'm sure it'll take that stuff right off.

sharifm3 · 08-23-2014, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by sharifm3

Before you go to a pro. Buy a clay bar kit and give it a shot. I believe mothers sells one. It takes off most paint contaminants. I'm sure it'll take that stuff right off.

It's about $15 or less.

soooma · 08-23-2014, 10:42 PM

They look deep to me as scratches or stone chips
I have some too

NickRac · 08-23-2014, 10:52 PM

Moral of the story...don't drink Starbucks.

PhilT3 · 08-23-2014, 11:42 PM

Regarding your question on whether or not you 'complain'.....

I understand why you would want to. I really do. It's the principal. But for me my time is way more valuable. For the amount of time and energy it would take to complain, I could make enough to pay for the repair several times over. And I would hope anyone driving an M5 would be in a similar situation.

It's not like the complaint will be easy... First...who do you complain to?...then, that person/organization will surely deflect. And here is where the work really starts.

It's just not worth the time. Cars that get driven ARE going to get 'battle scars'. It's inevitable.

Best of luck bud.

mwlmd · 08-24-2014, 12:27 AM

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Originally Posted by sharifm3

Before you go to a pro. Buy a clay bar kit and give it a shot. I believe mothers sells one. It takes off most paint contaminants. I'm sure it'll take that stuff right off.

Didn't even consider the clay bar. I actually have one. Lol.

mwlmd · 08-24-2014, 12:29 AM

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Originally Posted by PhilT3

Regarding your question on whether or not you 'complain'.....

I understand why you would want to. I really do. It's the principal. But for me my time is way more valuable. For the amount of time and energy it would take to complain, I could make enough to pay for the repair several times over. And I would hope anyone driving an M5 would be in a similar situation.

It's not like the complaint will be easy... First...who do you complain to?...then, that person/organization will surely deflect. And here is where the work really starts.

It's just not worth the time. Cars that get driven ARE going to get 'battle scars'. It's inevitable.

Best of luck bud.

Agree 100%. I think I'm just annoyed and want to take it out on the perps.

I will likely end up having my opti guard guy just deal with it. Btw this shit sticks to optiguard like glue!!!!

gds52 · 08-24-2014, 09:40 AM

I had used tar removal spray few years back. It was for $4-5. Give it a shot. Any parts store should be carrying it.

emkmd · 08-24-2014, 09:57 AM

Makes me think of Liar Liar when his car was scratched at the impound.
"So what I'm gonna do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe."

PhilT3 · 08-24-2014, 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by emkmd

Makes me think of Liar Liar when his car was scratched at the impound.
"So what I'm gonna do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe."

Lol.... Love it! How true... So don't even 'piss and moan' is my new mantra. Just move on.....

NlckyBlack · 08-24-2014, 04:11 PM

Honestly if you complained i'm sure they would probably just tell you to take a hike. I probably would too. Get it detailed, i'm sure it will clean up nicely.

emkmd · 08-24-2014, 04:21 PM

[u2b]http://youtu.be/wk7fYBw6PfQ[/u2b]

kiwistu · 08-24-2014, 04:31 PM

I had a similar situation, tar spots all down one side, assuming your still friends with the dealer you bought it off, ring him/her up give them some warning, then drop in, talk sh*t, sit in the new M3 etc etc, while a groomer guy takes out the back, 10 minutes later fixed for free! (at least should be if the dealer has any brains, second assumption)

Worked for me!

Cheers
stu

elitex · 08-24-2014, 04:41 PM

+1 for clay bar.

stealth.pilot · 08-24-2014, 04:58 PM

I don't think this is Starbucks fault. These specs probably didn't come from the Starbucks lot, but likely from the tires of cars on the road that may have just come out of the resurfaced lot.

The takeaway is avoid road construction areas in general.

If you have a clearbra this should be easy to remove.

JPMD · 08-24-2014, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PhilT3

Regarding your question on whether or not you 'complain'.....

I understand why you would want to. I really do. It's the principal. But for me my time is way more valuable. For the amount of time and energy it would take to complain, I could make enough to pay for the repair several times over. And I would hope anyone driving an M5 would be in a similar situation.

It's not like the complaint will be easy... First...who do you complain to?...then, that person/organization will surely deflect. And here is where the work really starts.

It's just not worth the time. Cars that get driven ARE going to get 'battle scars'. It's inevitable.

Best of luck bud.

+1

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Netwon · 08-24-2014, 05:49 PM

Clay bar is how you clean up paint that is already clean but feels rough/girt texture. (not large contaminates, tar etc) only small contaminants.

Tar remover all the way then a good wax to replace what you have stripped off.

Make sure you rotate your cloth/use lots of cloths when removing tar remover as not to grind in any grit you already removed into your clear coat.

mwlmd · 08-24-2014, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Netwon

Clay bar is how you clean up paint that is already clean but feels rough/girt texture. Small contaminants. Tar remover all the way then a good wax to replace what you have stripped off.

Make sure you rotate your cloth/use lots of cloths when removing tar remover as not to grind in any grit you already removed into your clear coat.

Tried my clay bar and tar remover. Doesn't touch it. The spots have to be chipped off. That's how big they are. Once off the tar remover gets the excess. Very tedious. There is no way I have the patience to DIY.

Netwon · 08-24-2014, 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by mwlmd

Tried my clay bar and tar remover. Doesn't touch it. The spots have to be chipped off. That's how big they are. Once off the tar remover gets the excess. Very tedious. There is no way I have the patience to DIY.

The point I was trying to make. Clay bar can make a mess of your situation. I have used the edge of a credit card to "pop" baked on tar off. Just have to be careful. Finish with good tar remover. Always test your chosen tar remover on the paint in a location that isn't visible to ensure comparability. (top of inlet to inter-cooler is a good location)

savela · 08-24-2014, 11:00 PM

Goo gone or maybe even WD40. Clay bar. Polish.

08-23-2014, 09:55 PM	#1
mwlmd Lieutenant Colonel 187 Rep 1,548 Posts Drives: Porsche 991 TTS Join Date: May 2009 Location: Portland, OR iTrader: (0)	What would you do in this situation? Hi guys. Need to poll the group here. The other day I went to my usual Starbucks and noticed they had just layed asphalt on the parking lot of a Vet hospital they built next-door. The access road to Starbucks was open with no unusual signage. When I returned home I noticed the entire front end of my car is coated with black specs. The alpine white had been transformed into Vanilla Bean. I washed the car and then followed it with tar remover. Did nothing. The spots are large enough you can feel them. I am guessing this will require professional detail/buff/polish etc to remove? Several hundred dollars? Do I just suck it up or complain? Really pisses me off. The joys of white car ownership... Thoughts? Attached Images __________________ CURRENT: His: Porsche 991 Turbo S Carrera white/Black Hers: BMW X3MC BSM/Black
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sharifm3 Second Lieutenant 40 Rep 225 Posts Drives: m3 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: flushing iTrader: (0)	Before you go to a pro. Buy a clay bar kit and give it a shot. I believe mothers sells one. It takes off most paint contaminants. I'm sure it'll take that stuff right off.
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PhilT3 6'0 / 250lb 137 Rep 1,797 Posts Drives: 2014 M5 Join Date: Feb 2012 Location: NW Philly Suburb iTrader: (0)	Regarding your question on whether or not you 'complain'..... I understand why you would want to. I really do. It's the principal. But for me my time is way more valuable. For the amount of time and energy it would take to complain, I could make enough to pay for the repair several times over. And I would hope anyone driving an M5 would be in a similar situation. It's not like the complaint will be easy... First...who do you complain to?...then, that person/organization will surely deflect. And here is where the work really starts. It's just not worth the time. Cars that get driven ARE going to get 'battle scars'. It's inevitable. Best of luck bud. __________________ Build: '14 M5 - Space Gray / Full Sakhir Orange / Alum Trace / Black 343's / Exec / Driver Assist / LED Mods: SunTek CXP tint - Vinyl-wrapped door handle chrome - Macht Schnell 12mm spacers - Pedalhaus pedals - iND Cosmetic Package - Polished 90mm exh tips - Coded by v12 - 21" HRE S107's polished lip/black center
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gds52 Colonel 886 Rep 2,720 Posts Drives: BMW Z4M Coupe, BMW 328i E93 Co Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	I had used tar removal spray few years back. It was for $4-5. Give it a shot. Any parts store should be carrying it.
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emkmd Private First Class 11 Rep 144 Posts Drives: 2015 SS M5 Join Date: May 2008 Location: Atlanta, GA iTrader: (0) Garage List 2008 E92 M3 (gone) [0.00] 2015 BMW M5 [0.00]	Makes me think of Liar Liar when his car was scratched at the impound. "So what I'm gonna do is piss and moan like an impotent jerk and then bend over and take it up the tailpipe."
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NlckyBlack Captain 69 Rep 785 Posts Drives: Too many cars Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Bergen County, NJ iTrader: (0)	Honestly if you complained i'm sure they would probably just tell you to take a hike. I probably would too. Get it detailed, i'm sure it will clean up nicely. __________________ 15 E63s 15 991tt 17 GC SRT
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kiwistu First Lieutenant 32 Rep 327 Posts Drives: Black F82 M3 Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: New Zealand iTrader: (0)	I had a similar situation, tar spots all down one side, assuming your still friends with the dealer you bought it off, ring him/her up give them some warning, then drop in, talk sh*t, sit in the new M3 etc etc, while a groomer guy takes out the back, 10 minutes later fixed for free! (at least should be if the dealer has any brains, second assumption) Worked for me! Cheers stu __________________
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Netwon Second Lieutenant 8 Rep 222 Posts Drives: '12 BMW M5 Alpine White Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Northern Alberta iTrader: (0) Garage List 2012 BMW M5 [0.00]	Clay bar is how you clean up paint that is already clean but feels rough/girt texture. (not large contaminates, tar etc) only small contaminants. Tar remover all the way then a good wax to replace what you have stripped off. Make sure you rotate your cloth/use lots of cloths when removing tar remover as not to grind in any grit you already removed into your clear coat. Last edited by Netwon; 08-24-2014 at 08:55 PM.. Reason: Clarify post
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savela First Lieutenant 26 Rep 365 Posts Drives: 2015 X5M Join Date: Aug 2010 Location: TX iTrader: (0)	Goo gone or maybe even WD40. Clay bar. Polish. __________________ 2015 ///X5M 2014 ///M6 (traded) 2014 ///M5 (traded) 2011 550i (traded)
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