M4 steering wheel on PRE-LCI M5???

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 11:07 AM

Hi guys.

I found a complete steering wheel from the M4 with airbag and on. I see the part numbers aren't the same for the M4/M5LCI/M6 regarding the steering wheel.

I found out that the M4 steering wheel should be like 5 mm smaller in diameter or so, but the question is, will it fit? I can get it relatively cheap!

Thanks

soooma · 04-25-2015, 11:46 AM

ـsmaller is better
If it fits go for it
Best thing about LCI

MCarsFan · 04-25-2015, 12:07 PM

Hope it fits..

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by soooma

ـsmaller is better
If it fits go for it
Best thing about LCI

Quote:

Originally Posted by MCarsFan

Hope it fits..

I mean it's just a couple of mm, but question is if the plugs etc work

, I can't go pay $1000 (still cheap) for nothing.

bigfra · 04-25-2015, 01:11 PM

Maybe the only thing from an m4 you would want on the M5.

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 01:12 PM

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Originally Posted by bigfra

Maybe the only thing from an m4 you would want on the M5.

Yeah, it really is nicer than the M5 f10 steering wheel!

M6-Coupe · 04-25-2015, 01:46 PM

Before you go for it, you need to talk to an experienced technician or ask your SA to check and confirm with his technician. The reason I'm bringing to your attention is "SAFTY" feature of airbag. Usually air bags have different threshold and this threshold depends on amount of force is transferred to the body in case of accident. That's very accurate engineering calculation and that's why you can't install any airbag unless the one is rated for that particular car. I'm sure M3/M4 (due to lighter weight and different chassis) have different airbags compare to M5 while your steering wheel includes the driver's airbag...

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Before you go for it, you need to talk to an experienced technician or ask your SA to check and confirm with his technician. The reason I'm bringing to your attention is "SAFTY" feature of airbag. Usually air bags have different threshold and this threshold depends on amount of force is transferred to the body in case of accident. That's very accurate engineering calculation and that's why you can't install any airbag unless the one is rated for that particular car. I'm sure M3/M4 (due to lighter weight and different chassis) have different airbags compare to M5 while your steering wheel includes the driver's airbag...

True:

M3/M4 airbag: 09 Airbag module, driver's side SCHWARZ 1 32307845795

M5LCI/M6 airbag: 8 Airbag module, driver's side SCHWARZ 1 32307845795

Looks the same to me

M6-Coupe · 04-25-2015, 01:57 PM

Looks the same to me too

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 02:22 PM

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Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Looks the same to me too

So the difference seems to lie in the harness.. There is so many different ones depending on the equipment. The steering wheel itself can only be with or without heat.

So in theory, it should be plug and play IF I get the correct harness

M6-Coupe · 04-25-2015, 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by lfelunden

So the difference seems to lie in the harness.. There is so many different ones depending on the equipment. The steering wheel itself can only be with or without heat.

So in theory, it should be plug and play IF I get the correct harness

Yes in theory but not practically since you need to remove the steering wheel first. I recall long time ago a member mentioned you need to remove the airbag first to have access to other assemblies and you must be very careful to prevent air bag deployment.

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Yes in theory but not practically since you need to remove the steering wheel first. I recall long time ago a member mentioned you need to remove the airbag first to have access to other assemblies and you must be very careful to prevent air bag deployment.

I have done this a couple of times on my other cars, shouldn't be a big problem though. The issue is whether or not I should order the steering wheel

soooma · 04-25-2015, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by lfelunden

I have done this a couple of times on my other cars, shouldn't be a big problem though. The issue is whether or not I should order the steering wheel

It is a beauty
Huge difference
Worth the money
I love it more than anything of this car's interior -

M6-Coupe · 04-25-2015, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by lfelunden

I have done this a couple of times on my other cars, shouldn't be a big problem though. The issue is whether or not I should order the steering wheel

I just saw your garage list so let me go off topic

How do you compare M with Alpina since you have bunch of Alpinas ?

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

I just saw your garage list so let me go off topic

How do you compare M with Alpina since you have bunch of Alpinas ?

Actually I'm picking up the M5 on tuesday

Actually, the B5S was an airplane on the german autobahn

did 317 km/h stock on paper, did go above 330 though. The B3 was fully tuned to around 440rwhp, the B3S biturbo reached about 524rwhp on pumpgas (dryweight 1560KG!!) absolute beast.

I have ordered: BMS stage 1, K&N filters, intake plugs (IF my car has holes - lol) and now looking into an exhaust

Wills2 · 04-25-2015, 03:46 PM

But how much is an LCI M5 steering wheel? Same as the M4 wheel but slightly larger?

I'd rather just get the M5 one and save the hassle if I were you.

Spinny02 · 04-25-2015, 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lfelunden

Quote:

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

I just saw your garage list so let me go off topic

How do you compare M with Alpina since you have bunch of Alpinas ?

Actually I'm picking up the M5 on tuesday

Actually, the B5S was an airplane on the german autobahn

did 317 km/h stock on paper, did go above 330 though. The B3 was fully tuned to around 440rwhp, the B3S biturbo reached about 524rwhp on pumpgas (dryweight 1560KG!!) absolute beast.

I have ordered: BMS stage 1, K&N filters, intake plugs (IF my car has holes - lol) and now looking into an exhaust

Skip the bms and go for a real tune.

M6-Coupe · 04-25-2015, 04:14 PM

So there is a reason you are cross shopping M5 over current B5

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 04:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Wills2

But how much is an LCI M5 steering wheel? Same as the M4 wheel but slightly larger?

I'd rather just get the M5 one and save the hassle if I were you.

Found it cheap at $1000!

lfelunden · 04-25-2015, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Spinny02

Skip the bms and go for a real tune.

I will! I just can't drive stock LOL.. I tune cars myself, so it's only for my trip

But the BMS isn't that bad anyway, my car has the M drivers package so it can do 314 km/h stock.

MCarsFan · 04-25-2015, 05:04 PM

M Drivers Package makes such a difference. Don't like that it's not offered in the U.S.

bronch · 04-25-2015, 05:50 PM

Other than looks, is there any other reason you want to do this? Seems to me that the circumference of the wheel should match the vehicle you're driving to a point since the turning radius of the M4 is less than the M5, it might pose problems. Do you just like smaller steering wheels? Otherwise, why not a different M5 specific wheel like the Alcantara M perf one, et al?

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