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      04-30-2016, 10:14 AM   #1
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Thinking of going from F80 M3 to a F10 M5

After doing some research on modifications an 60-130 times, and I am really impressed on how fast you can get the M5's.

Currently in a FBO Meth f80 m3 and thinking of switching over to an M5. I have upgraded turbos sitting for the M3 but would love to jump into an M5 with the Pure stage 2 turbos coming in. Anyone made the switch from an M3/M4 F8X to an F10 M5?
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basically this. but god i do love the looks of the m3. if it only sounded better, would've got one in san marino blue.
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I know, they look cool. But are those numbers on the modded M5's impressive. Looking at a Monte Carlo blue M5. Sad thing is I have upgraded turbos for the M3 waiting to go in. lol
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Sell the turbos

Sell the M3

Go up to the next prime # M car

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Sell the turbos

Sell the M3

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^^^ What he said!!
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Completely different cars. It sounds like you want a power monster more than a track monster. If so M5 hands down.
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I have no comment for you. You are making best decision. Lol


Although MaxPsi jst made record of 10.1 on the 1/4

Two different beast M3/M4 vs M5
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shiz.
do you have to go that fast ?/ LOLOL
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I'm doing the other way around from m5 to m3. For me it's the m5 is king on the highway but not on the track or the canyons. M5 holds its own just not great. Will be keeping both.
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Don't do it bro. I came from an F80 M3 and there isn't a day I don't think about the M3. I might pick up the F80 M3 ZCP.


The M5 and X5M I have can't compare to the M3. The M5 weight doesn't hide very well, it is very heavy to drive. Full disclosure, I miss the track as much as the car.

One thing the M5 can do that your F80 can't, exhaust sound. M5 exhaust sounds amazing.
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I have no comment for you. You are making best decision. Lol


Although MaxPsi jst made record of 10.1 on the 1/4

Two different beast M3/M4 vs M5
I excited about the stage 2 pures on the F10s.

Have you ever ran a F8X with pure stage 2 turbos?
Curious to see how a stage 1 pure would stack up against an f8x on stage 2 pures.
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I have no comment for you. You are making best decision. Lol


Although MaxPsi jst made record of 10.1 on the 1/4

Two different beast M3/M4 vs M5
I excited about the stage 2 pures on the F10s.

Have you ever ran a F8X with pure stage 2 turbos?
Curious to see how a stage 1 pure would stack up against an f8x on stage 2 pures.
No. But stage 2. Goes 10.1 on 1/4. Im sure on topend at over 140mph M5 would pull out due to 8 cyclinder
But i dnt think you would need stage 2 on f10's. Stage 1 is plenty of power
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The only real advantage the F80 holds over any other M car is weight, the rest is whatever. I know that weight is everything on the racetrack, but I just don't see the point of driving your street car on the track unless it sounds good. After all, you are going to the "racetrack", you should be driving a car that sounds like a race car. There are a ton of options out there for driving a car that handles and sounds better than an M3 on the race track for an equal or lesser price. A few that come to mind, Stingray Corvette, base 350hp Porsche 911, Catman S/GTS/GT4, the new 2016 Mustang Shelby GT350 (sounds awesome btw), new 2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1, the used 2015 Jaguar F-type R market have really come down in price these days, and I'd hate to admit it, but the new Mercedes C63-S is a superior car to the M3/M4 as well. Hell even a bone stock, E63 M6 only weighs 3,770lbs, and install an RPi exhaust on it and you drop 70lbs right off the bat, plus you get amazing V10 sound! The F10 has always been and always will be track capable, just not track usable as a dedicated track car. You can track the M5 just fine, but at the very least you need to upgrade to Carbotechs or a racing brake pad, racing brake fluid, and stainless steel brake lines. After all, I think a lot of you missed the video where they pitted the 30 Jahr F10 M5 against the M4 and the had lap times with .10s of each other if I remember. It's so easy to get a tune these days on the M5 too, you could easily produce a better lap time than a stock M3 with and M5 with good driving skill and brake upgrades like I said.
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The only real advantage the F80 holds over any other M car is weight, the rest is whatever. I know that weight is everything on the racetrack, but I just don't see the point of driving your street car on the track unless it sounds good. After all, you are going to the "racetrack", you should be driving a car that sounds like a race car. There are a ton of options out there for driving a car that handles and sounds better than an M3 on the race track for an equal or lesser price. A few that come to mind, Stingray Corvette, base 350hp Porsche 911, Catman S/GTS/GT4, the new 2016 Mustang Shelby GT350 (sounds awesome btw), new 2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1, the used 2015 Jaguar F-type R market have really come down in price these days, and I'd hate to admit it, but the new Mercedes C63-S is a superior car to the M3/M4 as well. Hell even a bone stock, E63 M6 only weighs 3,770lbs, and install an RPi exhaust on it and you drop 70lbs right off the bat, plus you get amazing V10 sound! The F10 has always been and always will be track capable, just not track usable as a dedicated track car. You can track the M5 just fine, but at the very least you need to upgrade to Carbotechs or a racing brake pad, racing brake fluid, and stainless steel brake lines. After all, I think a lot of you missed the video where they pitted the 30 Jahr F10 M5 against the M4 and the had lap times with .10s of each other if I remember. It's so easy to get a tune these days on the M5 too, you could easily produce a better lap time than a stock M3 with and M5 with good driving skill and brake upgrades like I said.
Agree!
And I have to add the fact of in that video the guy who tested both cars is (or was) an M4 owner with more than 6 months experience behind the wheel of M4 and zero experience with M5. Everybody knows this much power/torque and weight need some time to get used to and be familiar to know how to handle the car efficiently especially on racetrack...
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Don't do it bro. I came from an F80 M3 and there isn't a day I don't think about the M3. I might pick up the F80 M3 ZCP.


The M5 and X5M I have can't compare to the M3. The M5 weight doesn't hide very well, it is very heavy to drive. Full disclosure, I miss the track as much as the car.

One thing the M5 can do that your F80 can't, exhaust sound. M5 exhaust sounds amazing.
Surprising. Spent about 6 mos in 2015 M3. Fun, sure, but felt 'tinny'. Door weight felt spooky light. Interior room tight - width and no back seat for kids over the age of 5. Torque - you can feel well over 100 ft Lbs of difference and then some when the turbos come alive in the mid-range.

No comparison from my point of view. If you are hauling just you and the occasional passenger around town beating the Hyundai and Honda ricers, go M3. If you have customers or family and want luxury thrown in the mix, M5. For me, M5 was & remains the clear winner.

There is simply no replacement for displacement.
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Don't do it bro. I came from an F80 M3 and there isn't a day I don't think about the M3. I might pick up the F80 M3 ZCP.


The M5 and X5M I have can't compare to the M3. The M5 weight doesn't hide very well, it is very heavy to drive. Full disclosure, I miss the track as much as the car.

One thing the M5 can do that your F80 can't, exhaust sound. M5 exhaust sounds amazing.
Surprising. Spent about 6 mos in 2015 M3. Fun, sure, but felt 'tinny'. Door weight felt spooky light. Interior room tight - width and no back seat for kids over the age of 5. Torque - you can feel well over 100 ft Lbs of difference and then some when the turbos come alive in the mid-range.

No comparison from my point of view. If you are hauling just you and the occasional passenger around town beating the Hyundai and Honda ricers, go M3. If you have customers or family and want luxury thrown in the mix, M5. For me, M5 was & remains the clear winner.

There is simply no replacement for displacement.
Well, you know what they say about opinions.


But to compare an M3 with a Honda or Hyundai, this is a the first and borderline ignorant. The M3 is the pinnacle of BMW driving pleasure and has been this way since it's introduced. Every luxury performance sedan out there wants to be an M3, it is the bench mark of luxury performance sedan.

If you are over 6'2" then the M5 is roomier. If not, I see no issues with fitting 4-5 adults in the M3.

The S55 is only been out for less than 2yrs and already the M3 is hitting 10.2 quarter. It's not too far before it shatter the M5 record.
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Don't do it bro. I came from an F80 M3 and there isn't a day I don't think about the M3. I might pick up the F80 M3 ZCP.


The M5 and X5M I have can't compare to the M3. The M5 weight doesn't hide very well, it is very heavy to drive. Full disclosure, I miss the track as much as the car.

One thing the M5 can do that your F80 can't, exhaust sound. M5 exhaust sounds amazing.
Surprising. Spent about 6 mos in 2015 M3. Fun, sure, but felt 'tinny'. Door weight felt spooky light. Interior room tight - width and no back seat for kids over the age of 5. Torque - you can feel well over 100 ft Lbs of difference and then some when the turbos come alive in the mid-range.

No comparison from my point of view. If you are hauling just you and the occasional passenger around town beating the Hyundai and Honda ricers, go M3. If you have customers or family and want luxury thrown in the mix, M5. For me, M5 was & remains the clear winner.

There is simply no replacement for displacement.
Well, you know what they say about opinions.


But to compare an M3 with a Honda or Hyundai, this is a the first and borderline ignorant. The M3 is the pinnacle of BMW driving pleasure and has been this way since it's introduced. Every luxury performance sedan out there wants to be an M3, it is the bench mark of luxury performance sedan.

If you are over 6'2" then the M5 is roomier. If not, I see no issues with fitting 4-5 adults in the M3.

The S55 is only been out for less than 2yrs and already the M3 is hitting 10.2 quarter. It's not too far before it shatter the M5 record.
Didn't Ram break into the 9's?
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The only real advantage the F80 holds over any other M car is weight, the rest is whatever. I know that weight is everything on the racetrack, but I just don't see the point of driving your street car on the track unless it sounds good. After all, you are going to the "racetrack", you should be driving a car that sounds like a race car. There are a ton of options out there for driving a car that handles and sounds better than an M3 on the race track for an equal or lesser price. A few that come to mind, Stingray Corvette, base 350hp Porsche 911, Catman S/GTS/GT4, the new 2016 Mustang Shelby GT350 (sounds awesome btw), new 2017 Chevy Camaro ZL1, the used 2015 Jaguar F-type R market have really come down in price these days, and I'd hate to admit it, but the new Mercedes C63-S is a superior car to the M3/M4 as well. Hell even a bone stock, E63 M6 only weighs 3,770lbs, and install an RPi exhaust on it and you drop 70lbs right off the bat, plus you get amazing V10 sound! The F10 has always been and always will be track capable, just not track usable as a dedicated track car. You can track the M5 just fine, but at the very least you need to upgrade to Carbotechs or a racing brake pad, racing brake fluid, and stainless steel brake lines. After all, I think a lot of you missed the video where they pitted the 30 Jahr F10 M5 against the M4 and the had lap times with .10s of each other if I remember. It's so easy to get a tune these days on the M5 too, you could easily produce a better lap time than a stock M3 with and M5 with good driving skill and brake upgrades like I said.
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Surprising. Spent about 6 mos in 2015 M3. Fun, sure, but felt 'tinny'. Door weight felt spooky light. Interior room tight - width and no back seat for kids over the age of 5. Torque - you can feel well over 100 ft Lbs of difference and then some when the turbos come alive in the mid-range.

No comparison from my point of view. If you are hauling just you and the occasional passenger around town beating the Hyundai and Honda ricers, go M3. If you have customers or family and want luxury thrown in the mix, M5. For me, M5 was & remains the clear winner.

There is simply no replacement for displacement.
I think you are missing the point here. Yes the M5 is a great executive battle wagon. The M3 is the family man's track car. A lot of M3 buyers are younger and have wives/families. They may not have the space or money to have a third car. There is great separation in the M model line right now, maybe even too much. To write off the M3 as a Hyundai racer just shows arrogance and is no difference than someone saying that M5 buyers should just get a 750 and a 911. It is personal preference, not the superiority of one chassis over the other. BTW I have owned both and they are fantastic cars each in their own right.
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Well, you know what they say about opinions.


But to compare an M3 with a Honda or Hyundai, this is a the first and borderline ignorant. The M3 is the pinnacle of BMW driving pleasure and has been this way since it's introduced. Every luxury performance sedan out there wants to be an M3, it is the bench mark of luxury performance sedan.

If you are over 6'2" then the M5 is roomier. If not, I see no issues with fitting 4-5 adults in the M3.

The S55 is only been out for less than 2yrs and already the M3 is hitting 10.2 quarter. It's not too far before it shatter the M5 record.


In my experience with the M3, every 4-cylinder with an oversized fart can wanted to drag race ... that was the point, Einstein(s).

And no, 4-5 full grown adults (over 180 #'s) with an inseam over 32" do not ride comfortably in an M3.

Great car, yes, with an indisputable legacy, no question. Luxury? Not so much.
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