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      03-13-2017, 12:00 AM   #1
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I purchased brand new Pirelli P zero tires for my M5. I was in a empty parking lot doing some donuts and the tires burst. So now I know not to buy those tires ever again for a M5. They worked so good on my SRT.

Which tire brand should I go with?
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      03-13-2017, 01:37 AM   #2
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Something was wrong with your tires , they shouldn't blow up that easily from doing donuts lol, try Michelin PSS
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Grip and friction

The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction with the road, the higher its grip, the more effective the tyre is at things like steering, cornering, braking and accelerating.

The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction, the greater the heat generated when its spinning on a rough surface like a car park. The warmer a tyre becomes, the more it tends to grip

The more heat that's generated, the higher the air pressure within the tyre and the softer the rubber become.

So in terms for tyres best suited for donuts, what you're looking for is a tyre made of really hard rubber, with the lowest grip possible.

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Something was wrong with your tires , they shouldn't blow up that easily from doing donuts lol, try Michelin PSS
That's rather a big leap of logic. Variables such as speed of rotation (the gear you're in and the revs you apply), the road temperature and the length of time the tyres were spinning are all going to play a major role.

Generate enough heat and any tyre will burst. The more grip the tyre offers, the quicker it will heat up, so premium tyres are probably the worst for spinning donuts.
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Something was wrong with your tires , they shouldn't blow up that easily from doing donuts lol, try Michelin PSS
That's crazy, I literally just bought them a day prior.
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The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction with the road, the higher its grip, the more effective the tyre is at things like steering and cornering.

The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction, the greater the heat generated when its spinning on a road surface like a car park. The warmer a tyre becomes, the more it tends to grip

The more heat that's generated, the higher the air pressure within the tyre and the softer the rubber become.

So in terms for tyres best suited for donuts, what you're looking for is a tyre made of really hard rubber, with the lowest grip possible.
I've seen people do donuts longer than I did and drigts afterwards and have never seen their tire burst, espically when it's brand new.
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The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction with the road, the higher its grip, the more effective the tyre is at things like steering and cornering.

The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction, the greater the heat generated when its spinning on a road surface like a car park. The warmer a tyre becomes, the more it tends to grip

The more heat that's generated, the higher the air pressure within the tyre and the softer the rubber become.

So in terms for tyres best suited for donuts, what you're looking for is a tyre made of really hard rubber, with the lowest grip possible.
I've seen people do donuts longer than I did and drigts afterwards and have never seen their tire burst, espically when it's brand new.
Too many variables to tell ... it could have happened with any tire.

If you just bought them two days ago, see if you can get a replacement under warranty or since it's within the remorse period.
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I've seen people do donuts longer than I did and drigts afterwards and have never seen their tire burst, espically when it's brand new.
Probably using almost worn out tyres or tyres made of hard rubber with low grip. The fact that both your tyres burst is a good indication that their operational specifications were far exceeded. They possibly burst because they are brand new and therefore offering peak grip. You think donuts are bad for your tyres....you should see what its doing to the plates and fluid in your diff.

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Too many variables to tell ... it could have happened with any tire.

If you just bought them two days ago, see if you can get a replacement under warranty or since it's within the remorse period.
Definitely should do that.
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Doing donuts on brand new tires lol. I usually do that when they're on their way out and I have a fresh set waiting for me.
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Probably using tyres made of hard rubber with low grip
You're being serious or sarcastic? Lol, because I'm new to this tire difference thing.
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Doing donuts on brand new tires lol. I usually do that when they're on their way out and I have a fresh set waiting for me.
If these couldn't handle being brand new, I would've died doing donuts while they're on their way out
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The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction with the road, the higher its grip, the more effective the tyre is at things like steering, cornering, braking and accelerating.

The higher a tyre's coefficient of friction, the greater the heat generated when its spinning on a rough surface like a car park. The warmer a tyre becomes, the more it tends to grip

The more heat that's generated, the higher the air pressure within the tyre and the softer the rubber become.

So in terms for tyres best suited for donuts, what you're looking for is a tyre made of really hard rubber, with the lowest grip possible.
#SPOT-ON though I think you lost a bunch by some of the comments...
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Probably using almost worn out tyres or tyres made of hard rubber with low grip. The fact that both your tyres burst is a good indication that their operational specifications were far exceeded. They possibly burst because they are brand new and therefore offering peak grip. You think donuts are bad for your tyres....you should see what its doing to the plates and fluid in your diff.
I should get those checked.
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#SPOT-ON though I think you lost a bunch by some of the comments...
He did lose me.

Because when I just got the car I had Michellin PSS on em & I did donuts & burnouts. Those tires held up better than the Pirelli and the Michellin wasn't brand new and it didn't shred.
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