05-01-2016, 10:35 AM | #23 |
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Op, you need to drive them both to see which one you like the best. That's what it should come down to. Do have a family? Is it your only car? Will you be driving clients around? They're both great cars and as its been said before the performance difference may be marginal. It's a hard choice but either one will put a smile on your face.
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Overall M6 has lower center of gravity thanks to CF roof and less height. No need to add that M6 has less height and wider track over entire current M cars! The lower center of gravity helps better cornering and turning specially on track. Also M6 has stiffer suspension while M5 has more comfortable ride. M6 has more road noise coming from tires while M5 has better insolated cabin. M5 has the best (more comfortable) seats compare to other M cars. As far as which one is faster in straight line, since M6 (even non CP) has better power to weight ratio compare to M5 CP (due to 150lb lighter weight) and slightly better Drag coefficient, while this model has a 2.29 m2 frontal area, its drag area being 0.73 m2 and the drag coefficient - 0.32 compare to M5 with 2.40 m2 , drag area of 0.79 m2 and drag coefficient 0.33, she (M6) should be faster... BUT there is a more important question here: Do you need coupe or sedan??
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With regarding to magazines, I don't take it on blind faith, which is why I raised it. Now, you can question how they did the test, which is fine with me, but you can't say there is zero evidence. I believe most CPs indeed are faster (and as I have said in my earlier post, I would pick CP over non-CP), but are all CPs faster/makes more power than non-CPs? I have reasonable doubt. I would not bet my life on it. As for your driving tests, come on, you just said nobody is a robot, so how is it your own more accurate than other's? Only you and your brother can precisely pull the paddle at the same time while no-one else can? |
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05-02-2016, 04:23 AM | #27 |
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I wouldn't bet my life on it either. But - I think BMW would have a real issue on their hands if CP owners cars were dynoing at less HP than the non CP cars. The other accoutrements are what attracted me to the CP - not the 15 hp.
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You question other's credibility (both mentally and physically) and how nobody is a robot but your own test is legit? How does that make any sense? Even with two CP side by side, same fuel load, same settings, robot driving, and whatnot, I bet one will be faster. As good as BMW is, it is not possible that they can manufacture two cars exactly the same. Engine tolerances, drivetrain losses and etc., won't be the same. CP is only 15HP more power than non CP (on a car that already has 560HP), not 150HP more. I have reasonable doubt that all CP is 100% faster/makes more power than non CP. I have seen your type too many times, gets upset and started to sound condescending, whatever. |
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I'm not upset in the least, can't you tell I'm enjoying this? Oh! And last but not least. You can just give Dinan a call and they will verify that these engines are making well over 600hp, even the stock ones. Engine dynamometers are the real deal, laboratory standards. You can find my type at your nearest law firm. We look for the FACTS and hard EVIDENCE before drawing any conclusions. |
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EVIDENCE: see above posts RULING: who gives a sh__? Both cars are damn fast. If you want to pay $7k new, your $. Look at several other posts griping about auction values. What will CP get you? Not so much at Mannheim. BTW, where do lawyers rank on the credibility index? Above or below used car sales people??? I think I'd look elsewhere for a role model on facts ... maybe physics or the sciences? |
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But alas if that was indeed the topic, and that was the issue at hand, then why are you the only one who has brought it to attention? Perhaps a concise individual like yourself should be more cautious when reading. Lawyers may not have the best reputations, but the practice does force you to read between the lines, well in your case, line. Maybe you selected the wrong thread? Buying new or used is relevant to your personal financial position. Personally, I'm not interested in anyone braking in the car except for myself. Others would like to avoid that massive hit and I don't blame them, but it doesn't sit well with me not knowing the full history of the vehicle. Both cars are fantastic, but going back to the ORIGINAL topic, the CP is well worth the extra bucks! |
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