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      10-28-2013, 12:24 AM   #45
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      10-28-2013, 12:48 AM   #46
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We've all seen incredible and unfortunate crashes on this board. If this isn't a testament to BMW's commitment to engineering and complete passenger safety, then I don't know what is...

As others have said, must have been an awesome ride lol. Absolutely PRICELESS! European Delivery and the Nurburgring/RingTaxi is definitely on my bucket list.
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      10-28-2013, 01:00 AM   #47
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A little video I found about it:
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      10-28-2013, 01:32 AM   #48
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Poor Civic M5. The ZCP M5 wouldn't have crashed.
This wins.

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      10-28-2013, 07:12 AM   #49
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      10-28-2013, 07:47 AM   #50
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      10-28-2013, 07:47 AM   #51
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      10-28-2013, 08:00 AM   #52
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ouch!!

Was in that one on a wet track just a few months ago.

Can't say I'm very surprised though, one of them was running on the last mm of his tires that day lol they eat through em like butter. If they take it around the wet heavily this was bound to happen.
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I was at the track that day, The ring taxi started behind me, since the track was wet and VERY! slippery I tougth "okay lets follow him, he should have more experience on a wet track". Usually I don't go to the ring when it rains, but I had a few laps left on my card which do expire each season. So I was driving a few minutes behind the M5, until we arrived a corner where 4 cars have tried to enter the curve at the same time. The M5 passed from the outside and I didn't want to take that risk so I stopped to pursuit the Ring-taxi.

I haven't seem him anymore after this corner, but after few minutes I found the crashed M5.. I was happy that I stopped to drive behind him, maybe I would be in the same shitty situation.

But the m5 wasn't the only expensiv car which had been crashed that day.. A Ferrari driver managed it to hit the wall at the third corner. I saw many crashes that day, when the track reopened after a crash, it didn't take 15minutes after the next one has crashed his car.
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      10-28-2013, 10:10 AM   #54
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Actually, you get more control with RWD since you know where the rear at and can predict which way the car will slide and, with this feedback still have a chance to recover from a slide...

On the contrary, with AWD, once control is lost and, since all four wheels are spinning and often not four at all but some... it is just unpredictable! If you ever lost control in AWD, you'd know what it's like.
X-Drive is variable AWD system able to send up to 100% of the power to any one of the 4 wheel's in a split second. If one 2 or 3 wheels lose traction it will send 100% of the power to the wheels (or wheel) that does have traction and brake the wheel's that don't. That is unless you turn off the stability control then it's basically RWD with traction control...

Considering X-Drive is designed to get you that better traction in that slippery situation, I would assume it would handel better in a situation of traction loss then RWD. I mean that is the whole reason BMW bothers to sell it, not as fun though...

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Actually, you get more control with RWD since you know where the rear at and can predict which way the car will slide and, with this feedback still have a chance to recover from a slide...

On the contrary, with AWD, once control is lost and, since all four wheels are spinning and often not four at all but some... it is just unpredictable! If you ever lost control in AWD, you'd know what it's like.
What kind of AWD system are your experience from?

I think that my experience with modern Haldex equipped AWD systems is very much contradictory to what you describe... As well as any review I've read and seen on cars with Quattro, X-drive and other AWD systems.
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      10-28-2013, 01:58 PM   #56
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FS: Akrapovic exhaust for F10 M5.

Never raced, minor blemish from touching road surface
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      10-28-2013, 04:25 PM   #57
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Ooof that looks painful.
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      10-31-2013, 07:37 PM   #58
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Poor Civic M5. The ZCP M5 wouldn't have crashed.
Oh boy here we go again.

I expect nothing less, now that the ZCP is out.

On that topic, why's your civic M3 sporting the ZCP wheels?
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Poor Civic M5. The ZCP M5 wouldn't have crashed.
Oh boy here we go again.

I expect nothing less, now that the ZCP is out.

On that topic, why's your civic M3 sporting the ZCP wheels?
I retrofitted the full ZCP package to purge all the Civicness from my M3.
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I retrofitted the full ZCP package to purge all the Civicness from my M3.
Once a Civic, always a Civic. Respect the authority.

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I retrofitted the full ZCP package to purge all the Civicness from my M3.
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God dammit
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I retrofitted the full ZCP package to purge all the Civicness from my M3.
Once a Civic, always a Civic. Respect the authority.

God dammit
Must have missed something. I thought this was an M5 crash being discussed on an M5 board. How did the civic come into it, unless I am missing something and that is a generic term for M3s
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Must have missed something. I thought this was an M5 crash being discussed on an M5 board. How did the civic come into it, unless I am missing something and that is a generic term for M3s
I think it was civic with a lower case c... "civic" being used as a disambiguation of "civil". In this case meaning "the basic version" of the M5, as opposed to the CP M5. Not civic as in Honda Civic...

Not sure if it's correct English to use the word civic in the sense it was used, but hey, English is my second language so what do I know???
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I think it was civic with a lower case c... "civic" being used as a disambiguation of "civil". In this case meaning "the basic version" of the M5, as opposed to the CP M5. Not civic as in Honda Civic...

Not sure if it's correct English to use the word civic in the sense it was used, but hey, English is my second language so what do I know???
You were 100% correct, and I think most got the joke being inferred about the 'base' M5 vs. the M5 ZCP.

I've found that people who learn the language vs. growing up with it actually end being more proper than those of us who throw around slang.
You used 'disambiguation' correctly, so I am pretty sure your English is top-notch.
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