UPDATE!!! German tuner LEIB Engineering cracked the F-series DME last week!!!

M-bitious · 10-01-2014, 08:10 AM

And this bad boy from SS is about to go on. Starting stage 2.....

PeterPure · 10-01-2014, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

So far downpipes plus IPE exhaust and OBD tune (no piggybags)
611 RWHP and 896Nm or 660 lb/ft.
Base dyno with dp's and IPE was 590bhp at the crank, don't have RWHP.

So Leib didn't put the car on the dyno before doing the OBD tune? Single numbers don't say much unless you can compare to baseline on the same dyno.

M-bitious · 10-01-2014, 11:21 AM

Uh what?
I wrote the baseline was 590 bhp at the crank. Leib told me by phone after the dyno run, I forgot what the RWHP was.

PeterPure · 10-01-2014, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

Uh what?
I wrote the baseline was 590 bhp at the crank. Leib told me by phone after the dyno run, I forgot what the RWHP was.

You can ask leib the baseline rwhp? It should be in their system.

Boss330 · 10-01-2014, 03:22 PM

Great stuff!!! Thanks for keeping us updated!

Since you had 590hp at the crank before and 611whp after (on the same dyno) it's evidently a significant gain from the OBD tune

M-bitious · 10-01-2014, 04:33 PM

I will try to get more info in due course, but the guys in Germany are working hard for me daily and already tested 20 files. They now have the torque under full control and can set it up in any way you please. They will increase it substantially tomorrow. From memory the RWHP baseline was around 512 bhp. There is much more left. But is has to be done wisely and carefully.

Andym3100k · 10-01-2014, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

I will try to get more info in due course, but the guys in Germany are working hard for me daily and already tested 20 files. They now have the torque under full control and can set it up in any way you please. They will increase it substantially tomorrow. From memory the RWHP baseline was around 512 bhp. There is much more left. But is has to be done wisely and carefully.

Good to hear that, please keep us updated on the progress.

Spinny02 · 10-01-2014, 09:17 PM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

And this bad boy from SS is about to go on. Starting stage 2.....

I have been looking hard to find these for the my ///M. I am jelous!

shahano · 10-02-2014, 01:51 AM

please let us know more... Sounds great.

M-bitious · 10-07-2014, 12:18 AM

Got the car back and wow. it is fantastic.
Results are 650 RWHP and 935Nm of torque. There is more left to gain but I want to run the car for a while first. Vbox 100-200kmh with full tank and two in the car gave 6.2 seconds. More to follow, just a bit busy right now.
In the end I decided not to go for the headers as it is actually not necessary.

Boss330 · 10-07-2014, 10:21 AM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

Got the car back and wow. it is fantastic.
Results are 650 RWHP and 935Nm of torque. There is more left to gain but I want to run the car for a while first. Vbox 100-200kmh with full tank and two in the car gave 6.2 seconds. More to follow, just a bit busy right now.
In the end I decided not to go for the headers as it is actually not necessary.

Thanks for the update!!!

Sounds like the real deal

Look forward to more info as soon as you have the time

JPMD · 10-07-2014, 05:18 PM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

Got the car back and wow. it is fantastic.
Results are 650 RWHP and 935Nm of torque. There is more left to gain but I want to run the car for a while first. Vbox 100-200kmh with full tank and two in the car gave 6.2 seconds. More to follow, just a bit busy right now.
In the end I decided not to go for the headers as it is actually not necessary.

Those are awesome gains.

Are they able to code out CELs?

Would you happen to know if they have any plans to offer "clone" ECUs that can be shipped to the US?

Andym3100k · 10-07-2014, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

Got the car back and wow. it is fantastic.
Results are 650 RWHP and 935Nm of torque. There is more left to gain but I want to run the car for a while first. Vbox 100-200kmh with full tank and two in the car gave 6.2 seconds. More to follow, just a bit busy right now.
In the end I decided not to go for the headers as it is actually not necessary.

Sound great, what kind of boost level are you running to get 6.2 for 100-200?

Whats the cost of the set up? What have they control over the ECU?

shahano · 10-08-2014, 03:39 AM

What is the whole setup you have on the car? Exhaust, Downpipes, other mods, PSi over stock for tune, CEL light or no? Any other mods that we have missed.

Erik K. · 10-08-2014, 06:34 AM

Supersprint catless downpipes, Full IPE exhaust, BMC airfilters,
DME´s reprogrammed, TCU tune.
No errors or error lights on the dash or memory.

gmd2003 · 10-08-2014, 06:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Andym3100k

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

Got the car back and wow. it is fantastic.
Results are 650 RWHP and 935Nm of torque. There is more left to gain but I want to run the car for a while first. Vbox 100-200kmh with full tank and two in the car gave 6.2 seconds. More to follow, just a bit busy right now.
In the end I decided not to go for the headers as it is actually not necessary.

Sound great, what kind of boost level are you running to get 6.2 for 100-200?

Whats the cost of the set up? What have they control over the ECU?

Honestly it should be way faster than that with 650 whp . I wonder what the slope was and conditions .

Erik K. · 10-08-2014, 06:59 AM

6.2s was done with 2 persons, about 95kg each, and with some luggage + full tank.
We measured the car at 1950kg without people in it.
The wheather conditions were slighty wet parts on the road and a bit foggy.
We started at about 80km/h in 3rd gear at MDM-mode, Sport+ activated, gearbox at the fastest program.
Wielspin until about 100km/h pulling until about 7000rpm, shifting to 4th and slightly wielspin. Rear tires Michelin Pilot Super Sport 295/25/21.

With one person and good conditions 5.5s - 6.0s should be possible.

M-bitious · 10-08-2014, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gmd2003

Honestly it should be way faster than that with 650 whp . I wonder what the slope was and conditions .

Let me put my time in perspective for you:
Mercedes SL65AMG in 8.7
Ferrari F430 in 8.4
Lambo Murcielago LP-640 in 7.8
Ferrari Italia in 7.5
McLaren SLR in 7.2
Suzuki CBR100XX in 6.8
Ferrari Enzo in 6.7
Pagani Zonda R in 6.5
Porsche Carrera GT in 6.4
Lambo Aventador in 6.3
McLaren F1 in 6.1
Porsche 918 in 6.0

gmd2003 · 10-08-2014, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

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Originally Posted by gmd2003

Honestly it should be way faster than that with 650 whp . I wonder what the slope was and conditions .

Let me put my time in perspective for you:
Mercedes SL65AMG in 8.7
Ferrari F430 in 8.4
Lambo Murcielago LP-640 in 7.8
Ferrari Italia in 7.5
McLaren SLR in 7.2
Suzuki CBR100XX in 6.8
Ferrari Enzo in 6.7
Pagani Zonda R in 6.5
Porsche Carrera GT in 6.4
Lambo Aventador in 6.3
McLaren F1 in 6.1
Porsche 918 in 6.0

My M6 CP with DP's , intake and BMS + 3.5 psi on 93 octane does 6.2 on a flat 0 slope run in a positive DA . So yes I'm not impressed .

M-bitious · 10-08-2014, 02:20 PM

Conditions, Number of people in car, tank full, luggage in boot?
What source is that print btw?
I think 6.2 is very impressive for any car. What time would you expect 4.8?

gmd2003 · 10-08-2014, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by M-bitious

Conditions, Number of people in car, tank full, luggage in boot?
What source is that print btw?
I think 6.2 is very impressive for any car. What time would you expect 4.8?

It was a positive 200 foot DA( so neutral air ) , full tank , no passenger , and zero slope . What was the slope of you're 6.2 and conditions ? The DA and slope make the biggest difference .Honestly I would expect well into the 5's with 650whp even with a passenger .

M-bitious · 10-08-2014, 02:35 PM

Full tank, one passenger (2 persons at 185kg), 10 kg luggage, slighty damp road, zero slope. I will try again when dry and just me behind the wheel. I would be totally impressed with a 5.9. We'll see. Only the Koenigsegg, La Ferrari and the Veyron can beat that.
I used a vbox, what did you use?

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