Delivery of first F10 M5 with M Carbon Ceramic Brakes (with full tech training info)

Boss330 · 04-06-2013, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mdh

It's fundamental to the design of ceramic brakes. Some people have significant problems - certainly if you live in 'high humidity' situations, or ever drive at slow speeds when it's wet. From the BMW technical manual:

"at low speed and cautious braking an audible sound may occur with wet M Carbon ceramic brakes or in the case of high humidity. This is due to the current design of the M Carbon ceramic brakes."

Seems like there is a lot of brake squeal issues on the steel brake M5's...

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=801436

Boss330 · 05-31-2013, 04:20 PM

Seems like the M5 needs better brakes when driven like this... (see the smoke towards the end of the video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nAIo8Xz2rL0

RPiM5 · 05-31-2013, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Boss330

Seems like the M5 needs better brakes when driven like this... (see the smoke towards the end of the video)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=nAIo8Xz2rL0

Nice video. I see that it was posted today. I too have smoked my brakes once already too. My BMW Performance School Instructor once told me that's how you know you are doing it right.

Gyrock · 06-03-2013, 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Darude

Just got the car back after the run in service. The car now sounds amazing, more pops and crackles especially when lifting off and changing down from 2nd to 1st. Interestingly the technician confirmed that during the run in service the turbos are not at full boost and after the run in service is deactivated the turbos are at max boost pressure.

Ok, for everyone that has a negative impression of the CCB's... My onboard service says that the discs never need replacing and last the lifetime of the car and the brake pads need changing in 100,000 miles! Now opting for these brakes isn't everyones choice, but for such a heavy and powerful car with the style of cross European driving I do with monthly track sessions these brakes are more than worth it for me. I wonder how many people have ever driven cars with 2nd or 3rd gen CCB?

The 23 kilo weight saving which is importantly unsprung makes a sizeable difference to the handling of the car. For me spending the money on the CCB was a no brainer but spending £3700 on the B&O system made no sense on a drivers car as I rarely use the stereo when driving.

Each to their own thats why we all have differently specced and coloured M5's!

So what changed your mind then Bud?

I see the car is back up for sale at Ocean Torbay..

http://www.oceantorbaybmw.co.uk/appr...m5-saloon.html

Seriously, I believe I own the only other CCB car in the UK and am interested to know if there's something I should know!!??

RPiM5 · 06-03-2013, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Gyrock

So what changed your mind then Bud?

I see the car is back up for sale at Ocean Torbay..

http://www.oceantorbaybmw.co.uk/appr...m5-saloon.html

Seriously, I believe I own the only other CCB car in the UK and am interested to know if there's something I should know!!??

Damn, that seems dodgy to me too mate.

JOHNBMWM5 · 06-04-2013, 02:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Gyrock

So what changed your mind then Bud?

I see the car is back up for sale at Ocean Torbay..

http://www.oceantorbaybmw.co.uk/appr...m5-saloon.html

Seriously, I believe I own the only other CCB car in the UK and am interested to know if there's something I should know!!??

They must be joking at that price!!!, I could take £8K off that and still by specced up new LCI.

These dealers make you laugh.

Stash21 · 06-04-2013, 01:01 PM

I agree this is unrealistic given the discount available on new. I guess they are overestimating how much Ccb is worth on the used market.

mpgrant5 · 06-04-2013, 04:46 PM

A friend of mine was offered this car the story his was told from the dealer is this his work place had changed to being abroad permanently so because the car was financed by bmw uk he could not take the car out of the country permanently

carlwrighty · 02-11-2014, 11:13 AM

Hi Darude,
I think i'm just about to buy your old car can you give me any info on it?
i've PM you as well.

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-11-2014, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by carlwrighty

Hi Darude,
I think i'm just about to buy your old car can you give me any info on it?
i've PM you as well.

Where is it advertised then?.

carlwrighty · 02-11-2014, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

Where is it advertised then?.

its at Rybrook BMW in Worcester - you can find it if you go direct to their website it up for 59K but i'm sure there's a deal to be done.

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-12-2014, 02:34 AM

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Originally Posted by carlwrighty

its at Rybrook BMW in Worcester - you can find it if you go direct to their website it up for 59K but i'm sure there's a deal to be done.

Yes you could end up with a bargain there, good luck.

N.S.A · 02-12-2014, 03:19 AM

Great review. but I am wondering this is not a LCI m5. So is this a retrofit of carbon ceramic brakes or you could of got carbon ceramic brakes on the M5 before LCI M5? the first edition m5 in the U.S which is 2013 m5 you could not get the carbon ceramic brakes. only on the newest 2014 LCI M5 you can get them. So I am confused of your car since it did not have the LCI led lights and not the new steering wheel.

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-12-2014, 04:34 AM

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Originally Posted by N.S.A

Great review. but I am wondering this is not a LCI m5. So is this a retrofit of carbon ceramic brakes or you could of got carbon ceramic brakes on the M5 before LCI M5? the first edition m5 in the U.S which is 2013 m5 you could not get the carbon ceramic brakes. only on the newest 2014 LCI M5 you can get them. So I am confused of your car since it did not have the LCI led lights and not the new steering wheel.

That car was a march 2013 car, the upgraded bits came in then, not the improved Nav / touch though, so ceramics were an option, I rather like the White with RED Leather now I have seen them together.
That car could well be a bargain.

Jay-K · 02-12-2014, 07:58 AM

amazing.

N.S.A · 02-12-2014, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

That car was a march 2013 car, the upgraded bits came in then, not the improved Nav / touch though, so ceramics were an option, I rather like the White with RED Leather now I have seen them together.
That car could well be a bargain.

Oh I see so right before they stop making 2013 models, they had already upgraded parts in the car so you can get the new ceramic brakes then right? but the steering and the feel is not the same as a 2014 lci m5?. that combo does looks good. I was going to get it but for some reason I was not liking the white.

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-13-2014, 02:46 AM

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Originally Posted by N.S.A

Oh I see so right before they stop making 2013 models, they had already upgraded parts in the car so you can get the new ceramic brakes then right? but the steering and the feel is not the same as a 2014 lci m5?. that combo does looks good. I was going to get it but for some reason I was not liking the white.

March 2013 was a change point here i believe for steering and some some other stuff like optional Ceramics , September here was the upgraded Nav with touch TMK.

N.S.A · 02-13-2014, 02:58 AM

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Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

March 2013 was a change point here i believe for steering and some some other stuff like optional Ceramics , September here was the upgraded Nav with touch TMK.

alright cool thanks

carlwrighty · 02-13-2014, 04:04 PM

Yep - bought it!!

JOHNBMWM5 · 02-14-2014, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by carlwrighty

Yep - bought it!!

Great let use know how you get on.
PM me if you get time on the price, I would be interested IF you are ok with it. J

PS) I like that combo now, looks good.

uddinsa · 03-08-2015, 09:59 AM

Hi got 4000m left till my rear break pads need changing for the first time. Can u recommand which is the recommanded Brand to use.

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mpgrant5 Private First Class 49 Rep 188 Posts Drives: Bmw m2 cs + 340d Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Uk iTrader: (0)	A friend of mine was offered this car the story his was told from the dealer is this his work place had changed to being abroad permanently so because the car was financed by bmw uk he could not take the car out of the country permanently
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carlwrighty New Member 0 Rep 5 Posts Drives: BMW F10 M5 Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Cambridge iTrader: (0)	Hi Darude, I think i'm just about to buy your old car can you give me any info on it? i've PM you as well.
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N.S.A Major 112 Rep 1,136 Posts Drives: 991 GT3 Blue Sapphire Metallic Join Date: Jul 2013 Location: Southern California iTrader: (1)	Great review. but I am wondering this is not a LCI m5. So is this a retrofit of carbon ceramic brakes or you could of got carbon ceramic brakes on the M5 before LCI M5? the first edition m5 in the U.S which is 2013 m5 you could not get the carbon ceramic brakes. only on the newest 2014 LCI M5 you can get them. So I am confused of your car since it did not have the LCI led lights and not the new steering wheel.
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