M5 carbon brake conversion

[SSR]

I will love to change my rotors for carbon rotors and I was looking at OEM kit and the calipers look the same only a minor difference in the front ones that can be easily adjusted.
The idea will be to only buy 4 rotors,pads for carbon and re use regular blue calipers to save money.

Here is the pdf

[shahano]

I would love to do it as well, but people said the retrofit will cost around 20k.. Not worth it IMHO.

[RPiM5]

The cheapest I've found the conversion kit for is around $12,500 USD. Labor would probably be around another $1,000-$2,000 USD to install, unless you can do it yourself. Considering that you could probably order a new 2015 M5 right now with some sort of discount, it's probably better to just buy a new M5 with the Carbon Brakes included. Also food for thought, if you buy a set of CCB's to throw on your 2013 or 2014 M5 then no free maintenance is included with that, but if you order a new 2015 M5, then you will get free maintenance on your CCB's, however it would still probably be pointless because the rotors last for 100,000 miles and the pads last for 50,000 miles, that is unless you are literally tracking your M5 every single weekend, which I doubt anyone in the world does that with an M5.

[shahano]

completely agree RPI

[thebishman]

Are the CCBs now covered under the 4 year maintenance plan for 2015? They weren't for prior years iirc.
Bish

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by thebishman

Are the CCBs now covered under the 4 year maintenance plan for 2015? They weren't for prior years iirc.
Bish

This is being heavily debated over on the M3/4 board. Lots of conflicting information.

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by GNALUZU

This is being heavily debated over on the M3/4 board. Lots of conflicting information.

The conclusion I reached is yes they are. I believe it is a fact because like I said, the rotors and pads last so long that BMW won't have to replace them within the 4 year Free Maintenance plan anyways.

[Bibendum]

Are the carbons even worth it for every day driving?

[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by Bibendum

Are the carbons even worth it for every day driving?

In my opinion, no. They need quite a bit of heat in them for optimal performance. You don't really get that quickly enough from daily driving.

[isugoo]

I think for non-track, normal daily driving, no brake dust would be the only improvement we'll see.

[Hammer91]

I have 2014 CP with CCB.

Do you need them on the street? Not in USA, but autobahn I say yes.
Do you need them on the track? I don't track my car but probably not.
Do I like them? Yes very much.

They are ALWAYS completely clean, amazingly so, have never seen a speck of any dust.

The mirror finish is very cool to look at and I much prefer the gold calipers with my alpine white/nutmeg combo.

They last the life of the car if not abused. My dealer assures me the CCBs are completely covered same as any other part.

They will squeak a little on occasion when cold or damp with light peddle pressure. A little more pressure quiets them and after a few stops they are perfect.

Are they worth the extra money? Objectively no. But for me I would for sure get them again.

I purchased a 2013 M5 with regular brakes and did ED with 2700 miles largely autobahn. At high speeds with fast stops I did get into brake fade at times, not surprising in a car this heavy. I am impressed with my current M5 how well it shuts down from very high speed with no fade at all.

I admit I struggled with the decision to check CCB but have no regrets, and very glad I did!

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by isugoo

I think for non-track, normal daily driving, no brake dust would be the only improvement we'll see.

They also brief well to family, co workers, enemies and friends during technical briefs.

[Bokke]

Originally Posted by RPiM5

The conclusion I reached is yes they are. I believe it is a fact because like I said, the rotors and pads last so long that BMW won't have to replace them within the 4 year Free Maintenance plan anyways.

I got them on my M4; below are pic's of when then need to replaced!

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Bokke

I got them on my M4; below are pic's of when then need to replaced!

Post if the day!

[infamousq]

Originally Posted by Bokke

I got them on my M4; below are pic's of when then need to replaced!

Damn...

[greentrbo95gst]

I thought they were not covering CCB under the maintenance plan.

[Dionysus]

Originally Posted by Bokke

I got them on my M4; below are pic's of when then need to replaced!

This post shouldn't be taken too seriously in the context of 'are CCBs worth it' (my driving style is hardly representative of the norm), but 1 year without CCBs: -

[Dionysus]

OP,

Thread from UK member that added CCBs. If in the US, however, I would calculate cost to change car against CCBs, as RPi says above.

http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=927168

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by Bibendum

Are the carbons even worth it for every day driving?

IMO No.
Drove the M5 with and mine without, no real braking change felt, no shorter stopping distance either.
Only upside less dust, but I can clean that off with the Jet washer.

[JOHNBMWM5]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

This post shouldn't be taken too seriously in the context of 'are CCBs worth it' (my driving style is hardly representative of the norm), but 1 year without CCBs: -

Mine is about the same and I have covered 10600 miles.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by Dionysus

This post shouldn't be taken too seriously in the context of 'are CCBs worth it' (my driving style is hardly representative of the norm), but 1 year without CCBs: -

^^This,
OP, it's always good to have more options/features if the money is not the issue, but do you really need that feature?
CCBs are 42.7lb lighter (according to PDF file you attached) and do not got hot like the steel brakes. You will not experience fading as much as you experience with steel brakes. You always have clean rims. I have no clue about the noise, but I have heard they are more noisy than regular brakes and yes they are more beautiful
To me CCB is good (even necessary) if you want to go to race track weekly/monthly basis to increase the performance, but if you want to drive the car as DD and/or once in a while track your car, then it's waste of money! (IMHO)
you may be interested to read this thread:
http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1024533

[RPiM5]

Originally Posted by JOHNBMWM5

Mine is about the same and I have covered 10600 miles.

I'm currently at 42,000 miles on my M5 and so far have only had to replace the rear brake pads once. My front brake pads still have about 7,000 miles left on the life of them according to the iDrive and the dealer won't change them unless the iDrive says so. Both my front and rear rotors have yet to be replaced too even though my front rotors have signs of hotspots and cracks, the dealer still won't change them. Most of you all should know how I have driven my M5. Several track days, tens if not hundreds of mountain and canyon runs, drag racing, and lots of general hooning around and my steel brakes have lasted this long.

There are three reasons why I want CCB's: In this order.

1. Brake dust!
2. Lighter weight. Better for the track.
3. They look cool!

With addition of Racing Brake Fluid I have never experienced fade from my Steel Brakes. Never. Even on the track. I imagine the addition of adding stainless steel brakelines would make this even more true with Steel Brakes.

I really hate brake dust though and even if the CCB's offered no performance benefit I'd still order them because I'm sick and tired of brake dust. 1st World Problems.