So why no 720 McLaren talk?

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Vic55

The Plus Models are dropping in value as they didn't move that well. The non plus models are doing slightly better. So Audi appears to have predicted their residuals correctly placing the non plus values higher than the plus by 4% (at least when I was researching). This is very similar to the Porsche Turbo S and non S residuals set by PFS; the non S is always had a higher residual than the S by 4 to 5%. And now the AMG GTR has a 5 point lower residual than its slightly cheaper more streetable GTC brother.

I'm not sure about problems per 1000 cars for the Audi vs the McLaren though. My Audi is built very well, Ill say that.

Yup I'm at 17,000 miles and aside from getting hit, cars been amazing. Just did the Spark plugs, oil for the 3rd time, clutch test was fine which is shocking, and mounted some Pilot Super sport 4s tires so I'm very excited to get those out and feel the changes from the MPSS, I haven't had summer tires since my M4/STi so I'm anxious to feel them on a performance car since the GTR ran radials.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by thebishman

Vic,

Thanks for the above. I’m no expert, but one reason that McLaren aren’t currently selling more cars is the limited dealer network imho. I’d love to have one but my nearest dealer is 450 miles away, and given the stories of minor electrical issues, etc. it would be just too much of a hassle to deal with even with the car in warranty. When cities the size of mine, Kansas City, gets a dealership I bet sales will take off.

Bish

I can see that in your case- its a logistical nightmare but even in markets where there are multiple dealers within 70 miles of each other (OC, LA, SF valley)- the cars are sitting. Generally the dealership market entry is a product of sales or expected sales and there are so many rich dealer owners that want to open more points but McLaren is not one of them IMHO.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Vic55

I can see that in your case- its a logistical nightmare but even in markets where there are multiple dealers within 70 miles of each other (OC, LA, SF valley)- the cars are sitting. Generally the dealership market entry is a product of sales or expected sales and there are so many rich dealer owners that want to open more points but McLaren is not one of them IMHO.

Yup they have the region here around DC locked down, even though we have like 7+ bmw, mercedes and Auid (each) dealers....

We have one aston, ferrari, mclaren, two Bentley dealers, one lambo dealer, and up until recently the Ferrari/ lambo/ mclaren was owned by the same person lol. I think they took the rights away from that guy and now McLaren and Lambo is a single ownership/ group. and Ferrari is on its own. Not really a good way to get a great price or have negotiating leverage lol

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by Vic55

You and I are on the same boat. We know there is faster out there but that doesnt mean better. Its just a shame that the car is so brilliant from a performance perspective.

Hell Mike has had several of them and will not buy one for 50% off he’s done, and told their CEO they over produce and too many problems. (3 650’s, 675, 570) He has issues with all of them and one buy back.......he also had the previous gen to the 650. My buddy is an executive at MB he said their quality control is a mess just not enough experience in that area. They have to over produce models to keep cash flow going.

[URBAN LEGEND]

Wasn't Ron Dennis a perfectionist? How are these issues possible when he WAS in charge?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Hell Mike has had several of them and will not buy one for 50% off he’s done, and told their CEO they over produce and too many problems. (3 650’s, 675, 570) He has issues with all of them and one buy back.......he also had the previous gen to the 650. My buddy is an executive at MB he said their quality control is a mess just not enough experience in that area. They have to over produce models to keep cash flow going.

Where is Mike!!

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Where is Mike!!

Working ..."slowed down on cars. He's has a 458 Spyder , and a Hurican with a super charger 700 plus. He's pretty content. He's doing well.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Hell Mike has had several of them and will not buy one for 50% off he’s done, and told their CEO they over produce and too many problems. (3 650’s, 675, 570) He has issues with all of them and one buy back.......he also had the previous gen to the 650. My buddy is an executive at MB he said their quality control is a mess just not enough experience in that area. They have to over produce models to keep cash flow going.

My buddies mp4-12c has been amazing he dailies it hasn't had a single problem, but like you said especially with the older ones, I worry about the long term reliability. Even though I can get a trans for 7k and a motor for 21k for my R8, I can't imagine how bad it could be with no connections to someone being able to find me McLaren parts if it was out of warranty.

[Phatcat]

Here is a test on the 720s, 0-300km under 20 seconds is crazy.

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

My buddies mp4-12c has been amazing he dailies it hasn't had a single problem, but like you said especially with the older ones, I worry about the long term reliability. Even though I can get a trans for 7k and a motor for 21k for my R8, I can't imagine how bad it could be with no connections to someone being able to find me McLaren parts if it was out of warranty.

Yeah for me not worth the risk nor high depreciation. The majority of these cars will be garage queens at this price point. Thus I would buy a 488 if I was spending that type of cash. That why I like my RS you can drive the crap out of it, and it does not break.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Yeah for me not worth the risk nor high depreciation. The majority of these cars will be garage queens at this price point. Thus I would buy a 488 if I was spending that type of cash. That why I like my RS you can drive the crap out of it, and it does not break.

I heard those RS are lifting heads

[Bimmer6]

First I have heard ..............I know no RS owners with issues. I know a ton of them small group.

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

First I have heard ..............I know no RS owners with issues. I know a ton of them small group.

https://drivetribe.com/p/ford-focus-...SWeK5xakSlhT4w

[URBAN LEGEND]

Are we talking GT3 RS or Focus RS?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Are we talking GT3 RS or Focus RS?

LOL

Porsche but 335iRlz is thinking domestic

[URBAN LEGEND]

Originally Posted by Vic55

LOL

Porsche but 335iRlz is thinking domestic

I thought I was missing something.

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

I thought I was missing something.

Yup ...sorry different RS

[M5Rlz]

Originally Posted by URBAN LEGEND

Are we talking GT3 RS or Focus RS?

I thought he meant he dialed an RS lmao I didn't know anyone drove their RS (porsches) I thought they all sat in heated garages never to be seen again lol

Originally Posted by Vic55

LOL

Porsche but 335iRlz is thinking domestic

LMFAO hahahah I am hahaha

Originally Posted by Bimmer6

Yup ...sorry different RS

Its like a Ford but x10 lmfao hahaha I apologize hahaha

[Bimmer6]

Originally Posted by 335iRlz

I thought he meant he dialed an RS lmao I didn't know anyone drove their RS (porsches) I thought they all sat in heated garages never to be seen again lol



LMFAO hahahah I am hahaha






Its like a Ford but x10 lmfao hahaha I apologize hahaha

All good man. I drive the crap out of mine when possible. I will admit to track most have slowed down due to replace a fender is 14k due to carbon. Less risk I would say as a better choice of words.

[brad850csi]

Slightly off topic but did Autobild do one of those tests with all of that information in it for the F10 or F06/12/13 generation of M5 and M6?

Edit, nevermind I managed to find it. Really should know to google first

https://www.flickr.com/photos/dedeth...7664201578221/

[URBAN LEGEND]

https://youtu.be/5ESlfZfoV_s