Lowering

Royce Martin · 03-21-2017, 10:02 AM

Interested in lowering, I'm in New York so I won't go extremely low but I do want to close that gap between the wheels and the fender/quater panel. I'm think 1"-1.5" would be good?

What springs would be good, what else would I need to change when changing the springs?

TrevorM3 · 03-21-2017, 12:49 PM

H&R is the perfect drop for the m5 imo.

MpowerMike · 03-21-2017, 11:01 PM

KW HAS kit is the best because it's adjustable

josec70 · 03-21-2017, 11:03 PM

KW HAS is great IMO. Fully adjustable and superior ride quality vs. H&R and other fixed height springs.

HXS · 03-21-2017, 11:06 PM

KW HAS is the way to go. I made the mistake of going H&R, then to Eibach. But I like my Eibach's way more than the H&R's.

TheHouseWon · 03-21-2017, 11:15 PM

How difficult is it to install KW HAS?

JtheW · 03-22-2017, 12:12 AM

I also say go with KW HAS. I have them and love them

@TheHouseWon, I didn't install mine but I don't think it would be too difficult with the right tools and space. Getting the ride height where you want it seems like it would be a little bit of a PITA without a lift.

TheHouseWon · 03-22-2017, 12:23 AM

Thanks. Is there a ratio used for dropping front and rear or is it 1:1. Example: if you drop .8" in the front, do you have to drop .8" in the back? Or should it be less in the rear?

Advantage · 03-22-2017, 08:34 AM

Has anyone consider Dinan's suspension kit for the F10 M5?

It appears to be similar to KW HAS with similar adjustments, warranty, and priced about the same.

ykjones · 03-22-2017, 08:41 AM

See my recent post regarding recent install on KW HAS. Highly recommend KW HAS with the adjustability. We get snow here in WA state and will be nice to raise when/if needed in winter months as she is my daily. Final pics at end a nd measurements my shop went with for desired stance. http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1360003

RPiM5 · 03-22-2017, 09:52 AM

OP watch this before making your selection.

Royce Martin · 03-22-2017, 12:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ykjones

See my recent post regarding recent install on KW HAS. Highly recommend KW HAS with the adjustability. We get snow here in WA state and will be nice to raise when/if needed in winter months as she is my daily. Final pics at end a nd measurements my shop went with for desired stance. http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1360003

How much lower did you go in these pictures?

Royce Martin · 03-22-2017, 12:30 PM

I appreciate all the opinions, answers & suggestions. Being that everyone is saying KW HAS, that's what I'm going with.

Anyone on here selling?

dgbos · 03-22-2017, 02:15 PM

How do you adjust the heights - is it a simple/quick process? I am on comp pack springs but could always use a little more in the summer!

SapphireM5 · 03-22-2017, 02:17 PM

After much research I'm also going KW HAS kit on mine w Dinan sway bars

ykjones · 03-22-2017, 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royce Martin

How much lower did you go in these pictures?

I don't know what my initial measurements were, I'll ask. The rears dropped after a couple of weeks and I didn't like it that low. My final adjustments is from fender to top lip of OEM wheel on stock 20" tires, front 24 1/4" and rear 24 1/2". Shop that did install did re-adjustment and another alignment.

ykjones · 03-22-2017, 03:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dgbos

How do you adjust the heights - is it a simple/quick process? I am on comp pack springs but could always use a little more in the summer!

I have no idea. I tried to peek when they were re-adjusting but I couldn't tell you exactly what they were doing.

SteveC · 03-23-2017, 04:52 AM

Lowering also increases the vulnerability of some pretty expensive components to debris lying the road
2 Oil coolers
Engine sump and lower crankshaft housing
DCT sump and housing
Catalyzers
Exhaust
Differential housing
Front and rear suspension

Only takes half an inch too little clearance to do tens of thousands of $$$ worth of damage

AZTurbo · 03-23-2017, 10:29 AM

KW HAS all the way. I did the installation myself and wished I would have paid someone to do it for me. You can certainly do it yourself if you are handy, however it is a lot of work.

Royce Martin · 03-23-2017, 01:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SteveC

Lowering also increases the vulnerability of some pretty expensive components to debris lying the road
2 Oil coolers
Engine sump and lower crankshaft housing
DCT sump and housing
Catalyzers
Exhaust
Differential housing
Front and rear suspension

Only takes half an inch too little clearance to do tens of thousands of $$$ worth of damage

So how low would you recommend?

SteveC · 03-23-2017, 06:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Royce Martin

So how low would you recommend?

Me? Personally I wouldn't go lower than a standard Competition Pack which I believe is 10cm lower than the standard M5

josec70 · 03-23-2017, 08:11 PM

Every car I've owned has been lowered with no issues outside of some bushings I needed to replace on an Audi S6. Not disagreeing with SteveC about some dangers but you just need to be careful.

Not unlike being careful when you have nice wheels

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TrevorM3 Banned 3322 Rep 8,083 Posts Drives: 6.3 AMG Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Florida iTrader: (0)	H&R is the perfect drop for the m5 imo.
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MpowerMike Major 361 Rep 1,123 Posts Drives: 2012 IB BMW M5 Join Date: May 2014 Location: T.O. Canada iTrader: (1)	KW HAS kit is the best because it's adjustable
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josec70 Major General 4074 Rep 5,233 Posts Drives: 22' Individual Chalk M5C Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami iTrader: (2)	KW HAS is great IMO. Fully adjustable and superior ride quality vs. H&R and other fixed height springs. __________________ CURRENT: 22' INDIVIDUAL M5\| CHALK \| TARTUFO \| CCB \| MPE \| H&R \| IND GONE: 19' M5C\| SINGAPORE GREY\| ARAGON\|VELOS VLS-06\|H&R\|iPE\|IND\|XPEL\|CF\|RADENSO GONE: 15' F10 M5\|BSM\|BLACK\|VELOS VSS-S2\|KW\|AKRA\|IND\|CF \|ESCORT 360\|VELOS PIGGY GONE: 13' F10 M5\|SG\|BLACK\|AKRA\|KW\|IND LONG GONE: 09' E60 M5\|02' E39 M5
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HXS Licensed Drug Dealer 742 Rep 2,269 Posts Drives: F10 M5 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: SoCal iTrader: (7)	KW HAS is the way to go. I made the mistake of going H&R, then to Eibach. But I like my Eibach's way more than the H&R's.
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JtheW First Lieutenant 112 Rep 343 Posts Drives: 22 m850gc Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Phoenix, Az. iTrader: (0)	I also say go with KW HAS. I have them and love them @TheHouseWon, I didn't install mine but I don't think it would be too difficult with the right tools and space. Getting the ride height where you want it seems like it would be a little bit of a PITA without a lift. __________________ 22 M850i gran coupe
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03-22-2017, 12:23 AM	#8
TheHouseWon Colonel 644 Rep 2,039 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: SoCal iTrader: (10)	Thanks. Is there a ratio used for dropping front and rear or is it 1:1. Example: if you drop .8" in the front, do you have to drop .8" in the back? Or should it be less in the rear?
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03-22-2017, 08:34 AM	#9
Advantage Second Lieutenant 87 Rep 210 Posts Drives: 2019 BMW M5 F90 Competition Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: Minnesota iTrader: (0)	Has anyone consider Dinan's suspension kit for the F10 M5? It appears to be similar to KW HAS with similar adjustments, warranty, and priced about the same.
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03-22-2017, 08:41 AM	#10
ykjones Master Gunnery Sergeant 72 Rep 220 Posts Drives: 2013 F10 M5 Signapore Gray Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Kalispell, MT iTrader: (0)	See my recent post regarding recent install on KW HAS. Highly recommend KW HAS with the adjustability. We get snow here in WA state and will be nice to raise when/if needed in winter months as she is my daily. Final pics at end a nd measurements my shop went with for desired stance. http://f10.m5post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1360003 __________________ VF Engineering Hex Stage 1, RPI GTM Black edition, KW HAS, Dinan sway bars, Matt Schnell spacers, IND black chrome, M Performance rear spoiler, M Performance rear diffuser, Michelin Pilot Sport 4S's, ESS stainless steel brake lines, EBC Red Stuff ceramic pads, BMC air filters, charcoal filter delete, sprint booster, V1w/Blendmount, BIM coding all options, Pedal Haus pedals, Formula One Pinnacle Tint
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03-22-2017, 12:30 PM	#13
Royce Martin Royce Martin 56 Rep 572 Posts Drives: 2013 650i xdrive GC Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Brooklyn iTrader: (0)	I appreciate all the opinions, answers & suggestions. Being that everyone is saying KW HAS, that's what I'm going with. Anyone on here selling?
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dgbos Second Lieutenant 43 Rep 216 Posts Drives: 2015 M5 BSM CP Join Date: May 2009 Location: Boston iTrader: (0)	How do you adjust the heights - is it a simple/quick process? I am on comp pack springs but could always use a little more in the summer!
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SapphireM5 Major 711 Rep 1,107 Posts Drives: 2013 M5 Sapphire Black Join Date: Feb 2017 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (3)	After much research I'm also going KW HAS kit on mine w Dinan sway bars __________________ '13 Black Sapphire Metallic - BPM Stage 1 Tune - RPI Exhaust - KW HAS Kit - 12mm spacers all around- Carbon Fiber front lip - High Kick Trunk Spoiler - Rear Roof Spoiler - IND Kidney and Fender Grills - 20% Tint all around 50% Front Windshield - PPF
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SteveC Major 220 Rep 1,231 Posts Drives: M5 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: North East iTrader: (1)	Lowering also increases the vulnerability of some pretty expensive components to debris lying the road 2 Oil coolers Engine sump and lower crankshaft housing DCT sump and housing Catalyzers Exhaust Differential housing Front and rear suspension Only takes half an inch too little clearance to do tens of thousands of $$$ worth of damage
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AZTurbo Private 10 Rep 53 Posts Drives: 2013 BMW M5 / 2015 Porsche GT3 Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: Dallas, TX iTrader: (1)	KW HAS all the way. I did the installation myself and wished I would have paid someone to do it for me. You can certainly do it yourself if you are handy, however it is a lot of work.
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03-23-2017, 08:11 PM	#22
josec70 Major General 4074 Rep 5,233 Posts Drives: 22' Individual Chalk M5C Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Miami iTrader: (2)	Every car I've owned has been lowered with no issues outside of some bushings I needed to replace on an Audi S6. Not disagreeing with SteveC about some dangers but you just need to be careful. Not unlike being careful when you have nice wheels __________________ CURRENT: 22' INDIVIDUAL M5\| CHALK \| TARTUFO \| CCB \| MPE \| H&R \| IND GONE: 19' M5C\| SINGAPORE GREY\| ARAGON\|VELOS VLS-06\|H&R\|iPE\|IND\|XPEL\|CF\|RADENSO GONE: 15' F10 M5\|BSM\|BLACK\|VELOS VSS-S2\|KW\|AKRA\|IND\|CF \|ESCORT 360\|VELOS PIGGY GONE: 13' F10 M5\|SG\|BLACK\|AKRA\|KW\|IND LONG GONE: 09' E60 M5\|02' E39 M5
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