Official info on AMS new M5 ECU flash tune, from IND!

Northern X5M · 03-10-2015, 09:43 AM

Ugh, I have the patience of a 12 year old school girl. Is this done yet?

AstonMartian777 · 03-10-2015, 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Northern X5M

Ugh, I have the patience of a 12 year old school girl. Is this done yet?

Yesterday they told me a month from now for a stage 1 tune only !

ChrisNich117 · 03-10-2015, 11:23 AM

I heard that the ECU's hardware is physically altered to achieve the flash. I don't think they broke any codes or encryptions. I see warranty issues lol. If anyone does do this, I would open that sucker up and take pics of everything before you send it to them.

Ameer ///M6 · 03-10-2015, 01:58 PM

100% accurate unless you want a huge paper weight. 😜

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Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

Andy, no tuner can tune the ecu without having the car with upgraded turbos. Impossible and not safe.

Andym3100k · 03-11-2015, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by greentrbo95gst

Andy, no tuner can tune the ecu without having the car with upgraded turbos. Impossible and not safe.

Ya I agreed with u, got my BR stage 2 now. Testing it...

JetBee · 03-11-2015, 04:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Andym3100k

Ya I agreed with u, got my BR stage 2 now. Testing it...

Whats your review on it?
Pm me the price of it and specs of the tune plz.

Boss330 · 03-12-2015, 02:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ChrisNich117

I heard that the ECU's hardware is physically altered to achieve the flash. I don't think they broke any codes or encryptions. I see warranty issues lol. If anyone does do this, I would open that sucker up and take pics of everything before you send it to them.

This has been debated and answered several times before

There is NO physical mod to the hardware at all. But they do have to open the DME's and connect their equipment directly to the relevant chip in order to read the password.

Don't try to open the DME at home. Tuners have said that the M5 DME is one of the toughest out there to open up...

MCarsFan · 03-12-2015, 06:52 PM

+1

RingMeister01 · 03-13-2015, 05:16 AM

3 months now...

Nate@IND · 03-13-2015, 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RingMeister01

3 months now...

Customer already has the car back and the iND F10 M5 is at AMS now (with the upgraded turbos) I thought Eric from AMS was updating this thread. Here is the final dyno for the AMS tune (without the turbo upgrade).

AstonMartian777 · 03-13-2015, 01:49 PM

That's a lot of HP on pump gas, it's like jb4 car with meth and 100 octane together.

Northern X5M · 03-13-2015, 09:42 PM

Want.

WickedE93 · 03-14-2015, 02:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Customer already has the car back and the iND F10 M5 is at AMS now (with the upgraded turbos) I thought Eric from AMS was updating this thread. Here is the final dyno for the AMS tune (without the turbo upgrade).

Nice! When is this up for sale?

M5Rlz · 03-14-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by AstonMartian777

That's a lot of HP on pump gas, it's like jb4 car with meth and 100 octane together.

More like tons of power before 3.5k rpm jeezous lol.

bluekn8286 · 03-18-2015, 01:12 AM

Great numbers, but I feel like the stock engine components are not going to be able to take that level of additional stress. Is there any information on how this affects overall motor reliability in the long term?

MCarsFan · 03-19-2015, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by bluekn8286

Great numbers, but I feel like the stock engine components are not going to be able to take that level of additional stress. Is there any information on how this affects overall motor reliability in the long term?

No question if you hammer your car with a remap it will shorten the life of the drivetrain and gearbox. Always been BMWs biggest concern with aftermarket tuning. The motor itself can probably take a lot more hp, but again parameters are parameters, and when you are producing so much power, something's gotta give

I have been running a BR Performance remap since beginning of January on my car and it's been fantastic, if not a bit frightening in wet weather in MDM mode!

Sharif507 · 03-19-2015, 10:09 AM

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No question if you hammer your car with a remap it will shorten the life of the drivetrain and gearbox. Always been BMWs biggest concern with aftermarket tuning. The motor itself can probably take a lot more hp, but again parameters are parameters, and when you are producing so much power, something's gotta give

I have been running a BR Performance remap since beginning of January on my car and it's been fantastic, if not a bit frightening in wet weather in MDM mode!

have you had any drivetrain malfunction erros popping up??

M5Rlz · 03-19-2015, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bluekn8286

Great numbers, but I feel like the stock engine components are not going to be able to take that level of additional stress. Is there any information on how this affects overall motor reliability in the long term?

lol almost 500whp before 4k RPM and thats not accounting for turbo upgrades lol I don't see how something isn't going to break [although it really does mimic the alpha 9/p800 curve which has been quite reliable on the GTRs engine], may not the trans even if you get the clutch from dodson, but good lord I'll be speechless if the stock BMW gearing can take that kind of pounding with some level of reliability and again not accounting for added boost from turbos lol. I just don't see how something isn't going to give on stock internals with that kind of power down-low.

Sharif507 · 03-19-2015, 01:35 PM

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Originally Posted by 335iRlz

lol almost 500whp before 4k RPM and thats not accounting for turbo upgrades lol I don't see how something isn't going to break [although it really does mimic the alpha 9/p800 curve which has been quite reliable on the GTRs engine], may not the trans even if you get the clutch from dodson, but good lord I'll be speechless if the stock BMW gearing can take that kind of pounding with some level of reliability and again not accounting for added boost from turbos lol. I just don't see how something isn't going to give on stock internals with that kind of power down-low.

im wondering about the dodson, anybody you know have this upgrade on their dct? i agree i think that the dct will def break.

M5Rlz · 03-19-2015, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif507

im wondering about the dodson, anybody you know have this upgrade on their dct? i agree i think that the dct will def break.

I believe its just a clutch kit probably to help it not slip the way the m4 ones do around 600whp... That wouldn't have any effect on how strong the gears are especially if you start making 700,800+whp and bringing it on hard and fast for stock 1-7 gearing.

MCarsFan · 03-19-2015, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Sharif507

have you had any drivetrain malfunction erros popping up??

Nope. Not one. It's been a great experience so far. I don't hammer my car though...well maybe sometimes!

SECOND2NONE · 03-29-2015, 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Nate@IND

Customer already has the car back and the iND F10 M5 is at AMS now (with the upgraded turbos) I thought Eric from AMS was updating this thread. Here is the final dyno for the AMS tune (without the turbo upgrade).

What other mods does this car have? Down pipes, exhaust, cats or catless. Is this on pump or race gas.. was going to go for the e63 until this tune came out, but now I'm just waiting for m5 to drop a couple this and while I'll finish my m3

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